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TNET: Analyst on Klubnik: "Seen more examples of him being disappointing than him being dominant"
May 25, 2025, 4:34 PM
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not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 25, 2025, 4:42 PM
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someone like myself not buying into the hype remembers games like lousiville last year. need him to be more consistent and have games like the texas game week to week
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Tiger Spirit [9999]
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He is a wild card.***
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May 25, 2025, 4:49 PM
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CU Medallion [18189]
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yep he had plays like the one
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May 25, 2025, 4:56 PM
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against v tech that just wowed. but he would look like poop like the pitt game up until that run. really hope he steps up into being more consistent this year
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 25, 2025, 4:58 PM
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Yeah I tend to agree. With Watson and Lawrence I felt 100% confident going into any game that we had the best QB and we’re going to be near impossible to beat because of it. Cade still scares me, and maybe it has more to do with his sophomore year, but if we experience the Texas-version or Klubnik more often than Louisville Klubnik we will be hoisting trophies this year.
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 26, 2025, 12:14 PM
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Most people have delusional memories of both QBs several games they made bone headed mistakes yet had a defense and running game to help. Also had some of the best WRs in the country to throw to, Cades had one year with a competent WR crew with two being Freshman.
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
May 26, 2025, 4:55 PM
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Exactly, and his defense under Wes Goodwin couldn't have stopped a top 10 High School offense, and with that said, it forced Klubnik to try and do things that he and most QBs in the country were not capable of doing and that was to be a superhero of the game against teams that had a game...
This coming season I don't think that Klubnik will have to be the superhero that he tried to be last season bc he will most likely have a defense that can put the ball back in his hands for him to do what Klubnik IS capable of doing without having to do more than he was capable of doing!!!
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Rival Killer [2788]
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 26, 2025, 5:47 PM
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DW had a lot of interceptions his last year. Lots of people commenting about it during the season, but winning erases mistakes. TL's second year he was throwing more ints than before, and people were talking. Once again, winning gives a pass. Both were phenomenal, and the Natty's prove it, but neither were perfect. Point is, if you're going to win, especially against great defenses, you have to take chances. You have to make difficult throws. Sometimes, it will backfire. If your defense is up to the challenge, well, you can recover. So, this flophouse fool saying CK is taking too many chances, obviously doesn't understand winning. I also remember a NFL QB named rothleislberger (sp?). That joker could throw for 150 yards, 5 ints, and the steelers would still win.
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 25, 2025, 6:14 PM
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And the dirt ###### game. Could’ve led us to a win instead turn it over. V tech is the only game I can think of that he won for us.
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 26, 2025, 10:46 AM
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Terrible take. Cade had one of the best TD/Int ratios in the country and led the country in explosive plays of 20yds or more. Cade has been a work in progress but the progress has been impressive. I don't think anyone will contest that Cade is better than SS, Dart or Gabriel with similar skill sets. Between our oline, receivers, TE's and the top freshman back in the country...our offense is gonna be special this season. Add in a little Tom Allen, Will Heldt, Woods, TJ, Sammy, Cape etc and we have a legitimate D ready to create pressure and stop the run. If our corners can stay healthy and our safties make a little progress we should be stout on both sides. Hype train isn't our MO but it's hard not to be excited about what we have donning the PAW. GO TIGERS!!!!! #BEATLSU
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
May 26, 2025, 1:06 PM
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He improved overall last year, but yeah...the games that matter the most against quality teams you have to perform. Louisville and SC can't happen again, just an above avg game from wins those game. Defense let him down against TX. And I know it felt that way against SC too, but SC only had 10 points with a min to go, that game should've been put away.
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 26, 2025, 5:02 PM
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With Goodwin out of the picture we shouldn't see any game ending in ways they did last season, but the QB is always the one that gets the blame for a loss, or a crappy played game when you have 21 other players that contributed to all of the game...
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
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May 26, 2025, 5:51 PM
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The USuC game isn't squarely on Cks shoulders. The defense needed to smack that QB before he was 30 yards downfield
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Re: not popular opinion but he has a point
May 27, 2025, 10:04 AM
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Maybe so, but like i said...if you're opponent only has 10 points with a minute left in the game, that game should already be over. 20 pts wins that game, and yes there was some bad luck with the stupid pitch fumble and reviews that didn't go our way. But we have to start scoring points on them. Cade still doesn't even have a passing TD on SC.
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I swear that Louisville game it seemed like that team knew our playcalls.
May 27, 2025, 8:06 AM
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I'm not aware of how much we change up our signals but it seemed like they were reading us like a book.
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Sounds like filthy betamale coot talk to me
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May 25, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Some 5th rate web journalist writing for $300/article. Only coots but his bull
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Rival Killer [2916]
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People sleeping on our improved O-line
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May 25, 2025, 5:30 PM
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They will be dominant.
And a dominant O-line makes average QBs look great.
And Cade is an objectively great QB!
National champs!!!
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What a joke
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May 25, 2025, 6:50 PM
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36 TDs to just 6 interceptions proves this guy is an ### hat. It also proves online so called journalists is extremely watered down.
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CADE will be just fine and Texas game was a
May 25, 2025, 7:28 PM
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Wake-up call that he Is as good as when recruited but has needed to grow up plus has needed a better Oline to prop him up til now.
Both are ready in 2025!
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Re: CADE will be just fine and Texas game was a
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May 25, 2025, 8:29 PM
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Even in our national championship years we started slow, had a loss vs Pitt with DW and needed NC State to miss a gimmie FG to win.
With TL, he did not start the first 4 games (others have questioned if we beat at A&M without KB and it is valid), and was knocked out and were saved by the CB and ETN to beat Cuse.
All I am saying is the season is long and you need some luck. CK proved last year he has what it takes. I am confident he will win us games and more importantly, not lose them.
If our OL and WR as close to as good as advertised, we shouldn't need much. If our defense performs close to their potential under the new DC, we should be fine as long as we get a bit of luck with the injury bug.
Any team can beat any other team on any given day. We will find out week 1 what this team is made of. Even if it doesn't go our way, we still control our own destiny, and we will be fine. If we win week 1, there could be a let down later in the season, but still can control our own destiny.
Dabo's teams generally don't start out hot, but he generally gets them where they need to be in Nov/Dec.
It will be fun to watch. Go Tigers !!!
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Re: CADE will be just fine and Texas game was a
May 26, 2025, 11:07 AM
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I agree with your take but we did go 15-0 culminating in a 44-16 Saban Smackdown. That team was built inside out with a Fr QB but it did take 15 weeks to get our best ball. On paper it would be fair to say we have a similar amount of talent with more experience at QB and a better OL now. If Cade protects the ball we should be good to go bc we got pretty far last season with the worst D we have had in 10yrs. 1 week at a time...hopefully the Ga loss will have us more prepared week 1 and we can come out with a big win to start the season. Death Valley night game against LSU to start the season...LFG!!!!
GO TIGERS!!!✅️ Geaux Tigers🚫🤡
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pump the brakes !!!!!
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May 25, 2025, 8:22 PM
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did this guy not watch the 2022 season - absolutely #### down by Tennessee
did this guy not watch the 2023 season - shut down by Duke: Shut down by Florida State; game of field goals by South Carolina , miracle Gator Bowl against Kentucky (bottom feeder of sec east)
did this guy not watch the 2023 season. choke in Atlanta . choke against Louisville. Choke against South Carolina
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Did you read it? He was saying that, even in Tnet's title.
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May 25, 2025, 9:38 PM
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Are you a Clemson fan or just a coot troll? Slamming every sport and the players and coaches like it's a hobby of yours. At least football troll Keller is supportive of basketball.
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in your world , fan = pump
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May 25, 2025, 10:34 PM
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facts are , Clemson is losing across the board to SEC teams on the big stages
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Re: pump the brakes !!!!!
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May 26, 2025, 11:21 AM
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I'm not sure what games you were watching but we dominated FSU and missed a 23yd fg to win as well as the scoop n score late when we were in fg range. We dominated USUCK on both sides. We couldn't finish some drives but we won in convincing fashion. Kentucky win was the beginning of Cade maturing. They were a top 5 team in the SEC, ranked in the top 20 most of the year with several high draft picks. We had a depleted OL with a young thin WR Corp and a 1st year starter in Cade. Wes Goodwin wasn't it and we didn't have Luke running the show yet either. Totally different dynamic with the personnel we have rn. Go Tigers!!!!
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still waiting for a complete 4. quarters against a quality opponent***
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May 25, 2025, 8:24 PM
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Re: still waiting for a complete 4. quarters against a quality opponent***
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May 25, 2025, 8:31 PM
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His last game versus Texas... what he did that game was the best game by a QB all of last year. With ZERO threat of a running attack and an OL that was desimmated with injuries, he was spectacular. And we forgot to pack a defense when we made the trip to Austin. The fact we were in that game in the 4th quarter was 100% on CK's arm. If we get 75% of the QB this year that he was in that game, we will win another natty.
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agreed ... but
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May 25, 2025, 10:41 PM
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the Texas game has been the rare outlier
sorry i'm not pumping
2024 Georgia , Louisville, South Carolina games are still so recent and fresh on my mind (NO OFFENSE AT ALL)
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Re: agreed ... but
May 26, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Defense DC killed that team all year.
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Re: still waiting for a complete 4. quarters against a quality opponent***
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Give me a QB last year that played 4 quarters against a quality opponent and didn't have a down game? OSU lost 2 including a loss by one to Oregon prior to them beating them in the CFP (so they split). Miami lost when they played anyone good and especially when it counted. Ewers was average at best most of the season.
OSU beat UT, Oregon, Texas and ND in the CFP each by around 14 so they had a very tough road, but someone has to win it. Lets not forget everyone calling for Ryan Day's head after losing to an average Michigan team 13-10 at the end of the season.
The game and season has ups and downs. Every team has injuries, but what we had to do with our offensive line last season, coupled with a Phil Mafah that slowly became unusable, coupled with a defense that couldn't stop the run.... without CK taking the snaps, we lose 3-4 more games.
I hear what you are saying... but that goes for every QB in college football.
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We need consistency from Cade.
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May 25, 2025, 9:45 PM
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For every good game, we got a bad to mediocre performance from him.
I do think our wideouts will help and hopefully we’ll have a better running game as well.
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Re: We need consistency from Cade.
May 26, 2025, 6:02 PM
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The injury to Mafah hurt our running game, and that's exactly what injuries do, they hurt the entire team when it's a player as important as Mafah was to our team...
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My take is Dabo and Garrett Riley need to man up and give Cade the reins
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May 26, 2025, 1:02 AM
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Cade has the skill sets. He has the WR's. He should have improved 2025 OL blocking and depth with Matt Luke leading the way.
There's no protecting Cade as a senior. Let him go. Let him make throwing and running mistakes. Let him correct those mistakes and win the games. That's what happened with DW4 and TL16. Clemson reverted to protecting the QB's feelings during the DJU years. It doesn't work. Let it rip. Just win baby!
Go Tigers!
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He could write an identical article about Arch Manning.
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May 26, 2025, 6:55 AM
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Or any other QB returning as a starter this year.
I would ask this question: Name any QB in 2025 who has proven more on the field through the 2024 season than Cade. Then answer, "Based on past performance on the field which QBs have a better shot at being ranked the #1 QB in the country at the end of the regular season this December?"
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Re: He could write an identical article about Arch Manning.
May 26, 2025, 12:11 PM
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Yeah, only really 2 QBs have performed well vs good competition at times when it comes to throwing the football other than Cade: Nuss and Beck. That's really it. Arch has been a disaster vs good competition. Sellars and Allar are in the next tier, but neither guy has shown the ability to do it with just their arm on a big stage yet.
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Last season?
May 26, 2025, 8:21 AM
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He was much better last season on explosive plays vs INTs. Hoping he continues into this year.
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Re: Last season?
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May 26, 2025, 12:28 PM
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After watching Cade for, what, 3 years; I don't see it. He's improved some each year but he hasn't convinced me. He's an overconfident above average quarterback. I'll be watching and pulling for him every game though.
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Kinda fair. But his trajectory is obviously positive and his floor is raised.
May 26, 2025, 12:30 PM
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If a person has a bad soph year and a great jr year, then it is fair to wonder what will come next. But it seems the odds are higher that he made a breakthrough and he will not return to his worst.
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Re: Kinda fair. But his trajectory is obviously positive and his floor is raised.
May 26, 2025, 6:09 PM
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I agree that at times Cade took unnecessary risk with the ball, but I think that he tried to out play his talent bc in his mind he knew that the Wes Goodwin defense wasn't going to do much to help him win a game...
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He's not wrong.***
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May 26, 2025, 12:46 PM
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Re: He's not wrong.***
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May 26, 2025, 1:11 PM
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Are will forever been known as the guy that gave the game to the coots last year. That last second u tee working cost us the game…plain and simple🤦♂️
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Re: He's not wrong.***
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May 26, 2025, 6:20 PM
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Wes Goodwin, Wes Goodwin, Wes Goodwin without any doubt cost us the coot game bc he could not scheme his defense with a plan to stop Sellers from escaping the pocket time after time after time he was breaking containment and running wild all game long, and it's that type of defensive planning that loses more games than not regardless of the talent. It is the coach's duty to put his talent in a position to play winning FB and Wes Goodwin didn't have the experience to do that. Wes Goodwin would have made the best defense that Clemson has ever had to look bad!!!
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Just plain wrong.
May 28, 2025, 11:38 AM
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How many points did the coots score in that game?
Def. held them enough to win.
SCORE MORE THAN 14!!!!!
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Klubnik is for real
May 26, 2025, 1:10 PM
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There is legitimate reason for concern, but I think CK has turned the corner. If GD comes on, or if our running back by committee is effective, I think we will have a great offense and this could be our best team since 2018.
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Re: Hype
May 27, 2025, 12:47 PM
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I simply do not beleive analysts predictions or expectations. They pumped our defense as being one of the best last year and then it fell flat on it's face. They all totally whiffed on DJ's performance. Remember how high Florida State was ranked last year? None of them, not one, saw that coming until it happened.
I am always hopeful of a highend performance year. It is what we as Clemson fans always expect, but I hope right now that no team member reads any of this hype, because that is what it is..hype. Until we show one way or the other on the field it is all nothing. I expect us to be good...very good. Greatness...no one can ever predict greatness. Greatness is thrust upon you and it's what you do at that moment that determines whether you are great or not.
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