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TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 10:37 AM
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I hope the G-Men can figure out how to use him. Too good
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Aug 24, 2023, 10:39 AM
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an athlete not to stay on the field, even in the NFL.
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Re: I hope the G-Men can figure out how to use him. Too good
Aug 24, 2023, 3:47 PM
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The Giant's figured out how to use Andy Headon and Terry Kinard to play Linebacker and Safety when they won a championship back in 1986.
I'm wishing him the best of luck up there with Big Dex!
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Re: I hope the G-Men can figure out how to use him. Too good
Aug 25, 2023, 2:39 PM
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That's not how it works in the NFL. You can't just out "athlete" people. Simmons hasn't been good anywhere the Cards tried to play him. He was bad in coverage and bad against the run. He got traded for nothing because he wasn't going to make the team. Maybe a change in scenery can help him figure it out, but you can't keep him on the field in the NFL because he just isn't good at playing NFL level football.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 10:51 AM
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Wow. Basically gave him away. Hopefully he will be in a situation where they know how to utilize him as he isn't a cookie cutter type defender.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:18 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking, and I was wondering why they were willing to give him away. His stats says that he earned his way playing the game, so why give up a guy like Isaiah Simmons for almost free???
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The Cards & their fans have been very disappointed in him.
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:16 PM
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He was living on borrowed time there. Hope he does well with the Giants.
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This is why the Cardinals suck!
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Aug 24, 2023, 2:00 PM
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Former Butkus Award LB averaging more than 100 tackles a year = 7th round pick.
I'm curious what upgrade they are going to get with said pick that produces like he can. Is that pick really better than letting him play out his rookie contract, or even resigning top talent.
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LIFE UPGRADE !!
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:05 AM
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good for Isaiah !
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Re: LIFE UPGRADE !!
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:23 PM
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?? IDK...I think we are well past the point where moving to New York could be considered a LIFE UPGRADE. Unless of course you are moving from San Francisco!!
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NYC is a great place to live
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Aug 24, 2023, 2:10 PM
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if you like big cities, but yeah I'd choose to live there over San Francisco any day. I'm curious what you think is so bad about it.
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Re: NYC is a great place to live
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Aug 25, 2023, 1:46 PM
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I mean no offense, but the preponderance of current events leads many to believe that "The Big Apple" ain't what she used to be. I have lived in numerous big cities: Louisville, Miami, outside Washington DC, Baton Rouge, Nashville, Honolulu, and now make the upstate my home. I once loved Chicago and was offered a job there. But, in the end, I declined. I have visited New York several times. I have seen Broadway plays. I once had dinner at the old Yankee Club, watched Ron Guidry shut out the White Sox, won the attendance pool, and bought my dad a Yankee jacket. But, I never felt connected to the city as being a part of this country. Much as I did living in Hawaii.
That all changed on 9/11. The courage and bravery exhibited that day by the "First Responders" and indeed the entire city, changed my mind about all that. I even bought an FDNY cap. But that is all gone now. When I see what all goes on there: crime, lack of education for young people, the disdain for the values that I grew up with and still maintain, and the apparent lack of respect for human dignity, I certainly understand why so many people are leaving. These are a few of the reasons that I do not feel living in NYC would be a "Life Upgrade". I hope you accept my brief synopsis, but you asked. ">
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Re: NYC is a great place to live
Aug 25, 2023, 2:13 PM
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crime
It's one of the safer cities in the US. Much safer than most of South Carolina, going by crime statistics. On average, you're about 3 times as likely to be murdered in SC as you are in NYC.
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Re: NYC is a great place to live
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Aug 25, 2023, 2:23 PM
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Got plenty of New Yorkers that have moved down in my neck of the woods and they may argue with you. Maybe crime stats get better out of NYC. Other things I hear from them is expensive and cold.
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Re: NYC is a great place to live
Aug 25, 2023, 2:34 PM
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Crime in NYC is definitely worse than it was a few years ago, but that's true in most places. I imagine most people leaving New York for the South can afford to live in the nicer parts of SC. I don't think they're moving to Orangeburg or Florence.
New York is more expensive, but people there also make more money. That doesn't do them any good when they're ready to retire, though, so they move to a place where the cost of living is lower.
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Brent V is more of a defensive mastermind than
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:07 AM
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NFL defensive Coordinators
the fact that Phoenix could t leverage Simmons athleticism speaks more about their lack of competency than anything else
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can't understand why Arizona didn't want him.. he was their
Aug 24, 2023, 11:09 AM
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second best defender/ behind Budda Baker. Only one that made plays.
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Bring back the old Lawrence Taylor defense, and let Isaiah
Aug 24, 2023, 11:22 AM
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wreak havoc on opposing offenses!
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:22 AM
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Seems like a great trade.
He should excel in that defense.
His hit on Renfoe was almost a career changer.
Please take it easy on your fellow tiger's!!
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:14 PM
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Yeah, what a steal for the Giants!
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:24 AM
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I guess this means they didn't want to pay him next year so decided to get something for him.
Still feels like a weird decision given he has produced and didn't get much for him.
Isn't a productive year at 1 million better than a 7th round draft pick?
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 1:02 PM
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Had the same thought. Maybe he asked for trade to get out of arizona?
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Re: The Cards & their fans have been very disappointed in him.***
Aug 24, 2023, 1:21 PM
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Why?
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Probably has to do with internal business stuff. My guess is
Aug 25, 2023, 12:07 PM
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he caught wind of them looking to possibly make a move or not extend a contract upgrade and he's not looking to get hurt in the preseason b/c of it.
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Re: The Cards & their fans have been very disappointed in him.***
Aug 24, 2023, 2:05 PM
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The Cards and their fans are the problem. He produced over 100 tackles, and he was used in schemes that did not fit his full capability. Too bad Isiah could not play QB because IMO Murray was the worst pick in history of NFL. Far too small and just not a good NFL fit, good college, but not NFL.
Their disappointment should be drafting a tiny QB and expecting anything out of him other than what they have received. Just not a good fit in the NFL, so all that they are mad about is a QB who simply isn't what they hoped for.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:36 AM
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As a giants fan, I’m pumped about this move!!
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 11:37 AM
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Why in the world would Phoenix trade him? Were they unwilling to go through his contract renegotiation?
The Giants have to be happy.
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I spent about 30 minutes reading some Cardinal
Aug 25, 2023, 9:18 AM
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forum posts about him a few months ago and they generally didn't seem pleased with his play. Roughly half of them wanted to get rid of him while the other half wanted to pick up his option and give him 1 more shot.
It sounded like they were struggling to find a position for him and he had a propensity to blow assignments. Kind of a jack of all trades and master of none which isn't great in the NFL.
Maybe the Giants can get more out of him, but this doesn't seem too surprising.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:50 AM
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It's amazing I can't use the softest of profane words to describe something ridiculous or mind blowing but TNet will post videos with the most vulgar, explicit, racially charged language known to the human race. I mean come on, can't even use the shortened term for Gamecock which is #### btw.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 11:51 AM
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If he can deal with living in NYC, I think this a good move for him. Will be cool to watch him and Big Dex on same team.
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The Giants are in NJ, not NYC. Nice suburbs nearby MetLife.
Aug 24, 2023, 1:25 PM
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He can live in a nice NJ suburb near MetLife stadium and still have easy access to NYC if he has time to go into the city for entertainment.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:34 PM
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Hope Isaiah has a GREAT career with the Giants. He was a favorite player at Clemson. Good guy and GREAT player.
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Wow, a seventh rounder surprises me. I hope the Giants
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:36 PM
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figure out how to use them. I bet he'll do well there.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 1:30 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how his 2022 campaign isn't being regarded as stellar. Numbers look pretty darn good to me.
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Well some things just don't show up in box scores
Aug 25, 2023, 9:21 AM
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It sounds like he was blowing alot of assignments with both run gaps and coverage.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 1:44 PM
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Underutilized by far but still had impressive numbers. NY got an absolute steal...7th rd? I would think they would atleast get a 3rd minimum. Obviously turmoil over a new contract for Arizona to give him away for nothing with only 1mil against the cap to keep him. Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 1:51 PM
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He knocked Hunter into the middle of the next week.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 2:01 PM
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Well, this is good for him considering how he can be utilized in New York.
Giving up a 7th round pick for such talent is as easy as it gets. He is a 1st round pick that will be getting paid next year, Arizona wanted out of that as much as Isiah wanted out of Arizona.
Behind that big Dline will be great for him. Hope he can have the year he is capable of putting together, best wishes to him and his family.
Go Tiger!!
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Are we sure Bill O'Brian isn't moonlighting as Cardinals GM?
Aug 24, 2023, 3:20 PM
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This is a Nuk Hopkins for David Johnson type trade! Totally baffling!
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 3:42 PM
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Heavenly news for this Giants fan! And for a future 7th round pick of all things!?! Arizona got finessed in the worst way possible! Hilarious.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 24, 2023, 4:18 PM
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I hope Isaiah is great for the G-Men.
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The Cards have their problems, but much of this is on Isaiah
Aug 24, 2023, 5:44 PM
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I don't pretend to be a Cardinals fan, but I've watched some of his games the last 3 years and Isaiah makes a lot of mental mistakes on the field in pass coverage and run gaps. Some of them killed the Cardinals at inopportune times.
His tape at Clemson was unreal and the Cards figured he would be very versatile in the NFL. They probably put too much on his plate at the start and things went downhill from there.
He's not the sharpest guy on the field. Hopefully the Giants can understand his limitations, reduce some of his decision-making and turn him loose to use his athleticism, which remains elite.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 25, 2023, 6:19 AM
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Giants stole this guy. Wishing Isaiah the best. One of my favorite Tigers. He always played hard, and I believe the Cardinals will end up regretting this move.
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Re: TNET: Former Clemson standout traded to Giants
Aug 25, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Go Giants
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