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Orange Blooded [2433]
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David and his comment about Rice been on the playoff
Oct 7, 2013, 11:48 AM
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selection committee.. David is absolutely correct and I admire him for his tough stance.
I am not racist against women, but they have no right to do this unless they are qualified. I am a man love my wife but my wife neither I should be anywhere analyzing football. If you are going to be selecting best teams, you need to know football and understand X and Os. The only job for me on the Clemson team is one of the following:
Janitor, water boy, equipment boy, bus driver, etc.. Women can do these jobs too if they want to.
So Heather pick another job. Rice get your tooth fixed and get married because you screwed up enough already and thank you for your services.
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^^^WANTS A SAMMICH, NOW!!!^^^***
Oct 7, 2013, 11:49 AM
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All-In [26968]
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So, what you are saying is that, in your opinion...
Oct 7, 2013, 11:49 AM
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It is not possible for a woman to be very knowledgeable about football?
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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not if they are unmarried and have messed up teef***
Oct 7, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Orange Blooded [2433]
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my answer in the message
Oct 7, 2013, 11:54 AM
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Here it is again:
"If you are going to be selecting best teams, you need to know football and understand X and O.."
Like any job, I believe there are job requirements. This is in my humble opinion is one of the requirements.
If Rice or any female can demonstrate this skill, they are welcome to the selection committee. I for one, don't qualify?
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All-In [26968]
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OK, so you disagree with Pollack. Confused...
Oct 7, 2013, 11:55 AM
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You said you agreed with him, but now you are saying the opposite of what he said.
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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I agree with Pollack. They can sue me...
Oct 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
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but only after I get my sammich
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You seem to think
Oct 7, 2013, 11:57 AM
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That having lady parts precludes someone from having an understanding of football X's and O's.
If not, then the simple question should be, regardless of gender, are they qualified. And then you don't have to be worried about being racist toward women.
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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whta is worse?
Oct 7, 2013, 11:59 AM
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Racism against women or misogyny against minorities?
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Top TigerNet [31652]
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Being an anti-dentite against podiatrists.***
Oct 7, 2013, 12:01 PM
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Good way to get foot 'n mouth disease.***
Oct 7, 2013, 12:25 PM
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Orange Blooded [2433]
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qualified regardless of gender, yes.
Oct 7, 2013, 12:03 PM
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Like any job in the world, we should have a "job" description.
What is the job description for someone on the committee? I don't know for sure but I guess you need to understand football somehow. How do you gain this understanding of football? Do you go to some university to get this education or do you play or you learn by coaching? I don't know the answer but I suspect you gain this knowledge by playing or being part of a coaching staff or something like this.
So If I had a daughter and I am coach, and my daughter sat on all my meetings and she understood football like I do, then she qualifies. This remind me with the movie "trouble with the curve" played by Clint Estwood and his daughter(sandra). She knew more about baseball than some of the staff on the braves organization. So she was qualified.
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Top TigerNet [31652]
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Um
Oct 7, 2013, 12:04 PM
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"I am not racist against women, but they have no right to do this"
You seem to be saying quite a different thing now
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Re: David and his comment about Rice been on the playoff
Oct 7, 2013, 11:51 AM
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PC should not mean everybody should get to do everything. Rice has been lobbying for NFL commish for a while. She is very bright and needs to stay in academia.
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Good to know you're not racist against women...
Oct 7, 2013, 11:52 AM
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But, really, you shouldn't be racist against men, either.
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Oculus Spirit [42290]
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You just went full potato with your "racist against women"
Oct 7, 2013, 11:53 AM
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comment.
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Top TigerNet [31652]
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Unless the criteria includes
Oct 7, 2013, 11:55 AM
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"Having played the sport at an advanced level" I see no reason to think that women are any less able to carry out the requirements of sitting on a selection committee. That said anyone sitting on the selection committee should be knowledgeable about and interested in the sport. I also think their decisions and discussions should be done in as public a forum as possible.
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Orange Blooded [3105]
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The problem remains
Oct 7, 2013, 11:57 AM
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If you don't want Rice on the committee, say it's because she (as an individual) lacks experience. Don't say that women shouldn't be on the committee; say that inexperienced people shouldn't be on the committee. That designation would include a lot of men and about 100% of the people on this board.
The same goes for Heather Dinnich. If you don't like her reporting, feel free to criticize. She is pretty mediocre at her job. But when people's criticisms of her focus on her being a woman, it makes is look like a bunch of narrow-minded idiots.
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Re: The problem remains
Oct 7, 2013, 12:00 PM
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it isnt that people are narrow minded. she is just so tall minded it gives the appearance from that height that it is narrow. her antics on the logan thomas train show her for the ESPN lackey she is.
The other ACC reporter is much better and more informed.
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Agree... Just leave politics out of it. I don't care whether
Oct 7, 2013, 12:09 PM
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it's a woman or not, but to be considering someone like Condy Rice is absurd. For years, she was supposedly running national security. There are hundreds if not thousands of people who have been dedicated to covering CFB full-time during that period and some much longer. Who do YOU think would be better qualified?
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I think they're probably trying to diversify perspective
Oct 7, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Hopefully still having a requirement of knowledge and dedication to the sport.
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For example...say they pick the Top 20 Most Dedicated
Oct 7, 2013, 12:13 PM
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And Knowledgeable College Football Fans to be on the committee. They all happen to be Alabama season ticket holders. Problem?
I don't think the fact that there is someone out there who may know a little more than you should necessarily disqualify you from the position, as long as you know enough to do the job.
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I don't see why politics would have anything to do with it.***
Oct 7, 2013, 12:16 PM
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Obviously it didn't at Augusta National, but never mind.
Oct 7, 2013, 12:23 PM
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What is her recent connection to CFB? That's right... she went to Stanford and she's a big CFB fan. Uh huh....
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I don't know. I really don't have anything specific
Oct 7, 2013, 12:28 PM
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To offer about Rice. I've really been talking more generally about whether or not women should be eligible to be on the committee.
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Gender is a non-issue for me. Experience in a documented
Oct 7, 2013, 2:20 PM
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history of dedicated involvement are what's crucial, but not PC politics.
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This. Though its true that no woman could have enough
Oct 7, 2013, 1:28 PM
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experience simply because no women play and coach in football. Other sports are a different story.
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Virtuoso [610]
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That's actually what he said and big time liberal Fowler
Oct 7, 2013, 2:26 PM
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then brought up Rice and women and Pollack said no to that idea as a way of clarifying his earlier statement.
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I have to ask....
Oct 7, 2013, 11:57 AM
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Do you have a CDL?
BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DRIVE THE BUS IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A CDL.
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Have any daughters, Nick?
Oct 7, 2013, 12:01 PM
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And how do you know Ms. Rice doesn't understand x and o's? Your prejudice against women is pretty blatant in this post.
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Woah Woah Woah
Oct 7, 2013, 12:02 PM
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He said he wasn't racist toward women, are you calling him a liar?
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Orange Blooded [2433]
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statement is not against women
Oct 7, 2013, 12:04 PM
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I have two daughters thank you and neither is qualified to be in this role. They both are very smart though and finished BS from Clemson and Mater from GT.
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Mater is from GA Tech?
Oct 7, 2013, 12:05 PM
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I thought he was from Cars?
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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oh come on...
Oct 7, 2013, 12:06 PM
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what's a mater with you?!?!
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Chuck A Mater?
Oct 7, 2013, 12:07 PM
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No you guys need to pay attention. A Mater
Oct 7, 2013, 12:18 PM
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as in NOT PROFESSIONAL. He clearly stated that his daughter was not qualified to be David Pollack.
OP CAN YOU PLEASE POST PICTURES OF YOUR DAUGHTERS? TIA
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Then perhaps consider rephrasing your initial point
Oct 7, 2013, 12:06 PM
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Because I can see how someone would read:
"I am not racist against women, but they have no right to do this"
as saying that women have no place on the selection committee.
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Orange Blooded [2433]
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done***
Oct 7, 2013, 12:08 PM
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So the skin color of women don't matter
Oct 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
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great. . . .what about men?
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uniform color is an important component of BCS selection
Oct 7, 2013, 12:37 PM
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and we need people on the committee qualified to see this.
what planet are you from?
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Not one person here has.....
Oct 7, 2013, 1:14 PM
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tied that mater with a sammich. If I were not laughing so hard I would have done it!
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I'm not sexist against racist***
Oct 7, 2013, 2:34 PM
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