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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: Most secure election ever
Nov 1, 2022, 8:31 PM
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Dems are the party of lie-cheat-and-steal.
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Letterman [257]
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Interesting angle, since in our most election had an attempt
Nov 2, 2022, 3:11 PM
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by Republicans to lie cheat and steal the election from the people. But carry on
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Tiger Titan [50775]
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Do you vote?
Nov 1, 2022, 8:34 PM
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I’m guessing you don’t, since you seem to have decided that all elections are unfair and completely rigged.
I mean, what’s the point, right?
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: Do you vote?
Nov 1, 2022, 8:45 PM
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None of what you just said has anything to do with the sec of state of PA, breaking the law.
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Tiger Titan [50775]
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You’re calling this election rigged.
Nov 1, 2022, 8:54 PM
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You called 2020 rigged also, right?
If I’m wrong, please correct me.
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: You’re calling this election rigged.
Nov 1, 2022, 9:05 PM
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I said there was shenanigans; and there was. PA violated their own state constitution in 2020 by allowing deep boxes and harvesting; and now they are breaking their own laws again. Both are irrefutable.
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Tiger Titan [50775]
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Do you think these shenanigans compromise the election results?***
Nov 1, 2022, 9:14 PM
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: Do you think these shenanigans compromise the election results?***
Nov 1, 2022, 9:37 PM
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It’s impossible to know. If holding is called every time it happens; does it take overtime to beat wake?
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Orange Elite [5269]
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Re: Do you think these shenanigans compromise the election results?***
Nov 2, 2022, 6:57 AM
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These people were sure. Who convinced them to assault law enforcement and attempt to assassinate elected leaders?
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: Do you think these shenanigans compromise the election results?***
Nov 2, 2022, 7:06 AM
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I guess they all convinced themselves to do what they did with their free will; they are humans, not robots. By the way, who was convicted of attempted murder.
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Orange Elite [5269]
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Re: Do you think these shenanigans compromise the election results?***
Nov 2, 2022, 7:43 AM
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I'll ask again. Who had these clowns convinced the election was "stolen" without proof? Let's see if you have the balls correctly answer this.
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All-TigerNet [10134]
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Ring of Honor [21656]
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Re: Do you think these shenanigans compromise the election results?***
Nov 2, 2022, 6:07 PM
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https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/us-treasury-provides-missing-link-manaforts-partner-gave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/
Then of course, there's the little factoid that Mueller put both Manafort and Trump's little gnome Roger Stone away for actually colluding with Russia but neither would point the finger at Donald...and both ended up getting pardons by the guy they would have pointed the finger at, which is probably why Mueller "did not establish sufficient evidence". Kind of hard to get conspirators to roll when the guy they'd be rolling on has pardons to offer them.
But hey. Carry on.
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Gridiron Giant [15498]
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Re: You’re calling this election rigged.
Nov 2, 2022, 5:14 PM
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I said there was shenanigans; and there was. PA violated their own state constitution in 2020 by allowing deep boxes and harvesting; and now they are breaking their own laws again. Both are irrefutable.
"irrefutable"? You don't appear to have actually read the whole article. Let me share the most obvious quote from it:
"Pennsylvania court says updated ballots won't be counted as RNC claims 'massive' legal victory"
Somehow, you get that because Rona McDaniel says the Dems are cheating, it's irrefutable fact.
I got a nice oceanfront house in Arizona I'll sell you, it has an irrefutably great view of the Indian Ocean.
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Oculus Spirit [41157]
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i feel disenfranchised as a voter from this comment***
Nov 2, 2022, 6:35 AM
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Campus Hero [13551]
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Who cares what the court says if you’re deep state. Nothing
Nov 1, 2022, 8:51 PM
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Will happen as a consequence.
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Oculus Spirit [43161]
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every ballot should be counted
Nov 2, 2022, 6:54 AM
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and the good ones should be counted twice!
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All-TigerNet [10134]
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Re: every ballot should be counted
Nov 2, 2022, 5:32 PM
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and the good ones should be counted twice!
And you should receive a receipt from your vote to take to a checkin point if recount is needed.
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Ultimate Tiger [36209]
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That decision could be bad for votes from overseas troops,
Nov 2, 2022, 7:26 AM
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who have to vote absentee. I'm curious why there has to be a date on the envelope in the first place, unless it's something that gets added when it's received by the election officials. I'll try to get a look at the opinion.
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Ultimate Tiger [36209]
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: Some Republicans think undated ballots should be counted.
Nov 2, 2022, 7:59 AM
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If it's the rule, it should be followed. If you wanted to allow it, change the rule. The bigger issue is: what other rules are being willfully ignored by the sec of state?
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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You and Fox are being dishonest
Nov 2, 2022, 8:04 AM
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She was following the rule of law and this decision, made yesterday, changed things.
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: You and Fox are being dishonest
Nov 2, 2022, 8:09 AM
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"The RNC, the National Republican Congressional Committee and the Pennsylvania GOP filed the lawsuit on Oct. 16, *****arguing that the state is illegally dodging state law and a Supreme Court ruling by saying it will count undated absentee ballots."
So, the argument that forced the ruling is invalid?
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Re: You and Fox are being dishonest
Nov 2, 2022, 10:41 AM
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Their argument wasn't accurate; the SCOTUS threw out the ruling and argued the case moot because it was no longer a live controversy.
It voided or vacated the ruling. It did NOT overrule the ruling.
The Pubs who filed the suit are gaming the system and claiming the SCOTUS overturned it, which they did not. But the PA court did.
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Here's her statement from earlier...
Nov 2, 2022, 8:03 AM
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She wasn't cheating; she was following the law until the PA Supreme Court made a different decision yesterday. Up until this, she was following the law.
Why don't y'all want undated ballots counted?
https://www.media.pa.gov/pages/state-details.aspx?newsid=536
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Paw Master [17240]
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Re: Here's her statement from earlier...
Nov 2, 2022, 8:11 AM
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The operatives that are filling out stacks of ballots are slowed, if they have to complete every data block.
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TigerNet Immortal [176634]
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The first half of her press release indicates what you say.
Nov 2, 2022, 8:49 AM
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The second half seems to say, "Sure, the SC just ruled that we can't count them, but that's BS and shouldn't affect us....keep counting."
The Pennsylvania SC had to literally jump in and tell her "no, you need to follow that USSC ruling" because she wasn't
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TigerNet Elite [73592]
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Oops***
Nov 2, 2022, 9:51 AM
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Nope, that's not what happened
Nov 2, 2022, 10:35 AM
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The SCOTUS sent it back to the lower court and ruled as moot and no longer a live controversy. This was over one particular case that the 3rd Circuit handled. They didn't toss it over the merits of the case. The Sec. of State is citing the Commonwealth Court ruling on this matter, which the SCOTUS has not overturned.
The PA Supreme Court now HAS overturned it as of yesterday, but she wasn't breaking the law before that.
No "oops," xtiger, but the expectation bar is low for you.
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TigerNet Immortal [176634]
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Full admission, I’m at most at a 30k foot level
Nov 2, 2022, 11:20 AM
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Of interest and knowledge on this, but the logic appears to be circular here.
The state GOP filed the lawsuit primarily claiming that the SCOTUS “mooting” did render the undated ballot counting illegal, despite what the SOS thought, and the PA SC agreed.
So in hindsight, the interpretation that she was violating law was correct, regardless of her incorrect interpretation, no?
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Here's the key in this...
Nov 2, 2022, 11:59 AM
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The SCOTUS didn't reverse the ruling. They just sent it back and said, "This isn't an issue anymore so just void it."
The U.S. Supreme Court did not issue any ruling or judgment that said counting undated ballots is illegal. This is the key.
But now the PA SC did. So now it's illegal according to them. But that didn't start until yesterday.
I'm at your same interest level, but #### if Keowee isn't pumping out the BS today.
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TigerNet Immortal [176634]
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But for the PA SC to make that ruling,
Nov 2, 2022, 12:03 PM
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The PA law has to already be in place for the ruling to be based upon, right? They can’t, or at least shouldn’t, invent the law out of thin air.
And agree, I’m quickly coming to the end of my replies on this.
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Since 2019 when PA expanded mail-ins
Nov 2, 2022, 12:09 PM
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This has been litigated pretty hard, and it's based on changes made in 1968 to interpret the law. They didn't actually have it mapped out in the legal books post-1968. So they've asked the courts to make a ruling.
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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A review for those misunderstanding this case
Nov 2, 2022, 10:44 AM
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-The Third Circuit ruled against a candidate who lost by a few votes in PA.
-The SCOTUS sent the appeal back to the Third Circuit to be dismissed as moot, citing it was no longer a live controversy. They didn't hear the case and overturn it. They said, "We're voiding it because it's no longer an issue."
-The Sec. of State said that nothing had been overturned--and she was right--so they proceeded under the law.
-The Pubs claimed that the SCOTUS had overturned the decision--they hadn't--and claimed law breaking as they took the case to the PA Supreme Court.
-The PA Supreme Court has now ruled that the ballots can't be used. This occurred yesterday.
No laws were broken.
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TigerNet Immortal [176634]
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The PA SC’s Ruling wasnt in a vacuum, the ruling
Nov 2, 2022, 11:23 AM
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hinged on the SC decision to moot the other case, no?
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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No, again...
Nov 2, 2022, 12:00 PM
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All the SCOTUS did was say, "This isn't an issue anymore so void it." They didn't REVERSE the ruling.
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Paw Master [17240]
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Re: Omfg
Nov 2, 2022, 12:08 PM
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OMFG no, the part that they be set aside based on date was removed in 1968, and the Sec. of State proceeded based on federal voting law as well.
You can pound your little fists all you want, but up until yesterday, she wasn't breaking the law.
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Paw Master [17240]
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Fisting
Nov 2, 2022, 12:49 PM
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ACT 12 Mar 2020: The elector shall then fill out, date and sign the declaration printed on such envelope.
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Tiger Titan [48748]
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Re: Fisting
Nov 2, 2022, 1:28 PM
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Missing the part in there where the law says the vote won't be counted.
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Ultimate Tiger [36209]
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