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Debate Thoughts
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:37 PM
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I would vote for Asa Hutchinson or Chris Christie...maybe Nikki but announcing plans to pardon the Orange One could be a no-go. I realize Asa zero chance and likely wont even qualify for any more debates. the GOP is not going to nominate Christie
the rest are cartoonish clowns who have exactly zero chances of winning the General Election.
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Re: Debate Thoughts
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:40 PM
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Those 3 would be fine over Biden or Trump.
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I think most of the candidates up there could beat
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:42 PM
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Joe Biden. Biden's ONLY appeal is that he's not Trump.
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the loud skinny Indian thinks
Aug 24, 2023, 12:45 PM
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moon landing was fake; 911 was an inside job; Jan 6 was a peaceful protest.
Joe literally could be on life support and beat him.
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You're not listening.
Aug 24, 2023, 12:49 PM
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I said he couldn't.
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No he doesn't
Aug 24, 2023, 4:50 PM
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the only think that he has said is that he believe that the federal government lies to us. They do, everybody knows this.
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Sooo ... where does Biden land on your Clown scale ?
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:44 PM
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lol.
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not a clown. he's a tired old man, a liberal democrat
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:48 PM
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that loves his country
but I do think he has put his love of his son over country. something about him and his situation kind of reminds me of Paul Newman's character in Road to Perdition - knows his son did wrong but will risk his enterprise to defend him anyway.
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Love of country ? I thought that was a major MAGA flaw ...
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:52 PM
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Does too many American flags make Brandon uncomfortable ?
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what? his son served honorably in the military
Aug 24, 2023, 12:54 PM
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trump grabs 'em by the pvssy
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I'll take them over the Commies on the Left.***
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:03 PM
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Re: I'll take them over the Commies on the Left.***
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Aug 24, 2023, 2:12 PM
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I am sure you would, but on the other hand you don't even know what a commie is apparently.
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dude, if Trump did what Biden and his son did
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:15 PM
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you'd be screaming on top of every mountain top 24/7
Biden bribed countries and is now compromised by Ukraine. Ever wonder why we keep writing blank checks to them?
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I see your 'spiracy is acting up again
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:16 PM
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we're only backing Ukraine because of Biden's son. LOL
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never said that but ok. Also, aren't you supposed to be anti
Aug 24, 2023, 1:19 PM
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ANY interventionism? you wanted us to pull out of every country and no supply money to anyone.
Paul would be so disappointed in you.
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by helping Ukraine, we are avoiding intervention
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:24 PM
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we are treaty bound to defend NATO and the Baltics will be next if Ukraine falls to Pooty-Poot
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And you call other people conspiracy nuts.
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:16 PM
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Are you ACTUALLY saying that we're giving billions of dollars to Ukraine because they'll totally spill the beans on Biden if we don't?
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you saying them having compromising #### on him
Aug 24, 2023, 1:18 PM
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doesn't help the blank checks?
and no, originally, it wasn't but the continuous blanks checks, yes.
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So, yes, that's what you're saying.
Aug 24, 2023, 1:22 PM
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See only what you want to see.
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can those
Aug 24, 2023, 1:25 PM
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blinders be photoshopped to orange color?
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thats my opinion. idc what you say.
Aug 24, 2023, 1:27 PM
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Again, if Trump did what biden did, he would be rotting in a jail already. ####, any pub. Take Trump away from this convo. Any Pub would be rotting in a jail right now.
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Your opinion also includes "99.999% of all media is liberal"
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:33 PM
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so.
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:36 PM
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I've asked you to break it down for me before, and you
Aug 24, 2023, 4:36 PM
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refused. So let's try this again. We'll start simple, in the medium where the majority of people in the US get at least SOME significant portion of their news (and opinions).
Major News Networks:
FOX News: more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined. Any other liberal news channels I'm forgetting about?
>50% conservative bent in major news networks doesn't seem to be the same as 99.999% liberal.
Reconcile this, before we move onto other categories.
Or, pretend you didn't see this like you typically do, because you know that statement is completely fabricated and dumb.
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Re: I've asked you to break it down for me before, and you
Aug 24, 2023, 4:48 PM
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xtiger
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Allow me to help here.
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:51 PM
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The vast majority of big media leans left to some degree, and is biased in favor of the D party, which is reflected in what they report, what they don't, and how they prioritize and report it all. I don't see how anybody can dispute that with a straight face. I don't know the percentage, but I'd say 80-85%. Just look at who the biggest newspapers have supported in presidential elections over the last 50 years; it's literally like 90% Democrats.
As for Ukraine, whether Joe and Hunter are crooked is a legitimate concern, but we should be supporting Ukraine against Russia to avoid us having to put troops on the ground and get more deeply involved should Russia win and continue against NATO partners.
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But is it perpetually support Ukraine forever with no limit
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:54 PM
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Because that seems to be the sentiment from people. I mean there's got to be an end game, but no one seems to know what that is.
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Pooty-Poot dies and/or Russian moms tire of body bags***
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Aug 24, 2023, 2:01 PM
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We should support Ukraine as long as doing so makes
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Aug 24, 2023, 2:10 PM
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more sense that actually being at war with Russia as a Nato member. If Russia takes over Ukraine, the likelyhood that they advance on a NATO country is pretty high. If that happens, we are committed to assist then, and it becomes much more likely that we put troops on the ground. If we do that, a World War becomes much more likely, and China would almost certainly get more involved.
So to answer your question, yes, there is probably some limit to how much we invest in Ukraine's defense, but for now, it's in our interest to make sure Russia doesn't win, as the cost would likely be much greater for us if they do.
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Re: dude, if Trump did what Biden and his son did
Aug 24, 2023, 2:50 PM
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> Biden bribed countries and is now compromised by Ukraine. Ever wonder why we keep writing blank checks to them?
You can back this up with receipts?
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Re: Debate Thoughts
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:02 PM
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Trump vs the dead guy - I won't vote.
Ham Sandwich vs. the dead guy - Don't blame me. I voted for the ham sandwich.
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The big winner for me last night was Nikki Haley.
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:03 PM
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1. She’s not crazy, which apparently is hard to find these days.
2. She’s not extreme
3. She has real experience
4. She seems like she would do a better job than the current or former presidents of bringing the country together, finding middle ground and compromise on issues. Which is really what we need. No matter what side you’re on, if your side wins, the other half of the country loses, and we stay deeply divided. If your policies involve compromise, with bot sides winning some and both sides giving away a little, we will
be better off as a whole.
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yeah I think I agree with that. she was a standout
Aug 24, 2023, 1:07 PM
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and proved an adult. I just can't swallow the Trump pardon business.
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I understand the situation she's in...
Aug 24, 2023, 1:14 PM
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I would have loved for her to say no, but then she stands little chance of getting the nomination.
I'm willing to believe that if it all lined up, that she would let him sit in jail. Of course it all depends on what comes out at trial.
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yeah I can see that. maybe its her way of threading the
Aug 24, 2023, 1:23 PM
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Re: yeah I think I agree with that. she was a standout
Aug 24, 2023, 1:22 PM
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I hate the idea of pardoning Trump and I'd love to see him die in jail.
That said, I want the country to stop tearing itself apart more than I want to see absolute justice, and if that means I have to forego the pleasure of seeing Orange Man wear an orange jumpsuit, I'll grimace hard, have a moment...and accept it.
Can Haley win without placating Trump supporters? (Mind, I dunno if she really has a real chance anyway, though I hope she does.)
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Re: yeah I think I agree with that. she was a standout
Aug 24, 2023, 1:39 PM
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I think as the election season rocks on she'll see her numbers improve. I think there is a suburban female vote out there for her.
I haven't seen the debate yet, but she's probably number 2 or 3 right now for me.
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She didn’t dominate the stage, Vivek did, but not in a good way.
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:49 PM
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Haley spoke strategically, and when she did she made it count. I think you’ll enjoy her performance.
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Re: She didn’t dominate the stage, Vivek did, but not in a good way.
Aug 24, 2023, 4:31 PM
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For me, 'dominating' the stage is overrated. Definitely, want to see assertivness but being overly aggressive is annoying.
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Re: She didn’t dominate the stage, Vivek did, but not in a good way.
Aug 24, 2023, 4:37 PM
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Scott has been my 'if the election were today ' guy, but I am far from making a decision.
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Re: yeah I think I agree with that. she was a standout
Aug 24, 2023, 2:41 PM
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For the good of the country, if Trump is convicted, I do hope he is pardoned. That is how I would have sold it--for the good of the country and to promote healing.
I would have invoked Gerald Ford's selfless pardon of Nixon for any potential crimes, a move that likely cost a decent man in the election against Carter.
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Commute the sentence, but not pardon.***
Aug 24, 2023, 3:16 PM
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Re: Commute the sentence, but not pardon.***
Aug 24, 2023, 3:54 PM
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Commute it to what? How much jail time would you lessen the sentence by or would you be ok with a stiff fine and loss of the ability to vote, run for office, etc.
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