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Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:05 PM
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I just looked it up, because I didn’t believe it, but PJ’s rebounds, assists, blocks, and points per game are all down this season. You have to wonder if other coaches are using this against us on the recruiting trail. I hope this is not the case. Even a CBB supporter like me can admit this is the last thing he needs right now.
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:06 PM
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I'm not sure you can put it anywhere else but coaching. Hall is obviously putting in his best effort. Coaching has to be a role to some degree in his opportunities/output.
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:08 PM
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😂. FM the legend.
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Neff is going to have to send a clear message
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:14 PM
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in support of Coach Brownell if we want to continue recruiting at a high level. You would be surprised how far a 5-year contract extension can go in so far as shoring up commitments.
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Re: Neff is going to have to send a clear message
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Mar 1, 2023, 6:19 AM
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Now that’s funny!
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I disagree
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:06 PM
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signed, CM Shack®
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^ TDd***
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:12 PM
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best not to pay attention to that juan
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:17 PM
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He admits to smoking rocks...
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:24 PM
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so there is that.
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Re: Neff is going to have to send a clear message
Mar 1, 2023, 10:53 AM
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in support of Coach Brownell if we want to continue recruiting at a high level. You would be surprised how far a 5-year contract extension can go in so far as shoring up commitments.
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Oh boy 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:17 PM
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You don't have to cherry pick to fit in certain circles...
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:19 PM
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but it helps.
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He just came off a serious injury and
Feb 28, 2023, 9:21 PM
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was not in basketball condition until probably late January. They said he was just cleared to play early in season so had no conditioning before then.
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I’m a little concerned that CBB was allowing…
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:25 PM
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our star player on the court if he was not in basketball condition, especially coming off a serious injury. Player health should come before win/loss record.
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Desperate times, a contract year, Neff's letter...
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:38 PM
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things start to add up, but I've said too much already.
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You don’t need to call PJ a loser…
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:07 PM
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He’s still been pretty good despite CBB’s coaching. 😉
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:25 PM
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This is absolutely stupid to post.
So if PJ Hall is regressing and that is coaching, then what about Hunter Tyson's play that is way above his career so far?
PJ is playing as good as ever. Many stats are lower due to limited play and recovering from injury as well as ther players stepping up.
This is what I hate about so many Clemson fans when it comes to Clemson basketball. Pure lack of realistic perspective.
Here is where you can gripe about coaching and BB tonight.
(1) He did not manage the game smartly in terms of calling Time Out earlier in the first half and earlier in second half.
(2) He did not manage their emotions and chaos during the game. He should have settled a few of them down. PJ was rushing some shots when he drove to the basket. Chase was rattled becaue UVA's point guard was pestering the crap out of Chase. Hunter was way off from three. The team look rished, frantic and trying to do too much.
(3) This game was going to be decided by less than 7 points. UVA plays stifling defense. They were not going to wilt and let a team beat them by 10+ at home. Clemson had played way about average offenively in last two games. That would not continue. May come back vs Notre Dame.
So COach BB needed to not have stupid mistakes early, which the team did: idiotic passes, bad dribbling, missed opportunities. We saw UVA get six points in first half off of Clemson players not playing loose and relaxed. Just frantic miscues. There were others throughout the game.
But they were the difference.
This had nothing to do with player development.
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^^meter has the broke^^***
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:28 PM
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:38 PM
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Perspective?
It’s like we are looking out of 2 different pieces of glass.
Most have perspective and the 10 plus years have given us a very clear one. Again this is not about one game or this season. The same shizz you brought up as issues tonight have been the same issues we have had for years. It may be the pep band, student seating issues inside LJ or we are millions behind other schools in spending.
Some perceive this is as good as it gets and some expect better.
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Look, FM, I don't often want to fight you, but
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:32 PM
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I wanna merry you. Will you merry me? Make an assessment.
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I remember McRae. Seeing that was awful.***
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Feb 28, 2023, 9:46 PM
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Check last six games
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:04 PM
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PJ was recovering from kneecap injury early in the season. He is progressing. No question he is progressing.
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We are 3-3 in those games…
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:11 PM
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You are not making me feel any better.
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Cockbox does not compute.***
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:16 PM
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It’s concerning. I’m sure this is something Brad is working to correct.
Watson, Lawrence, and DJ all regressed under Streeter and we saw how Neff handled him.
Our AD has clearly set the bar when it comes to expectations for our star players in all sports.
I don’t think I even have to mention Monte.
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Mar 1, 2023, 2:04 AM
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What a silly comment. the digression of football players is DABOS fault--no one else. He is paid $11 million and has ruined the rest of the athletic program
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We got ourselves a reflardo, folks.***
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Mar 1, 2023, 2:29 AM
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Re: We got ourselves a reflardo, folks.***
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Mar 1, 2023, 7:26 AM
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New JK scock?
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Re: We got ourselves a reflardo, folks.***
Mar 1, 2023, 12:34 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
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Regress? No. But certainly not used well.
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Mar 1, 2023, 6:18 AM
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I don’t think so.
I do think that Brad has never had interest in inside game. A different coach would probably do more to get him the ball and run the offense thru him - but that is not Brad. Brad is a mid major coach and coaches that way. Shoot lots of 3s and if they go in - you look great. But big boy basketball is about balance. Inside game gets you easy baskets, to the free throw line, rebounds. So when the 3s stop going in, you can get inside. But you can’t do that unless you coach that as part of the offense.
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Not to mention the fact that Dabo could’ve helped, but Brad didn’t ask.
Mar 1, 2023, 10:40 AM
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Insane for Brownell not to tap into the knowledge, experience, and wisdom Dabo has.
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Have to tap into someone else's if you don't have any
Mar 1, 2023, 12:39 PM
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of your own.
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
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Mar 1, 2023, 12:54 PM
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FM, you is the debil!! The debil I say! Reminds me for some reason of the Little Rascals letting a donkey into the classroom. Okay, yes I am old-ish.
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Re: Is PJ Hall regressing under CBB?
Mar 1, 2023, 1:58 PM
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His minutes were down at the beginning of the year due to injury rehab.
Also, Schieffelin and Hunter have made huge strides as rebounders. I'm sure they have taken some of his rebounding numbers.
Coach K calls Hall the most improved player in the country.
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