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All-In [10521]
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If Trump were president in 1938
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:30 AM
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he'd be far more Chamberlain and much less Churchill. Lindbergh would be the equivalent of Musk.
Prove me wrong.
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:31 AM
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It would be the USA, Germany, and Japan as allies.
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 8:31 AM
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Can't forget Italy.
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:36 AM
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Nobody, including Churchill himself, was banging the drums for war against Germany in 1938. Having said that, even Roosevelt following the desires of his constituents, had no interest in direct US intervention until Pearl Harbor in late 1941, so perhaps go read some history books before your next troll attempt.
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 8:39 AM
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A huge reason was we had a small military when the war started. Portugal had a larger army. We weren't prepared for war. Then of course the public was against it due to WWI.
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All-In [10521]
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I know my history
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:57 AM
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Churchill wasn't "banging the drums for war" but he also wasn't for appeasement like Chamberlain was. He saw the threat that Hitler represented and talked of defending Britain and preparing the British military accordingly. Chamberlain when all in with Hitler and trusted him in signing a non-aggression pact, much like Stalin did, and we see how that worked out.
Roosevelt was VERY isolationist at that time and you're right, he didn't change his mind until 1941, but he did broker the Lend-Lease act and started supplying the UK with vital aid, despite objections of many in Congress.
Go ahead. Lecture me some more on history.
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 2:40 PM
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Nobody, including Churchill himself, was banging the drums for war against Germany in 1938. Having said that, even Roosevelt following the desires of his constituents, had no interest in direct US intervention until Pearl Harbor in late 1941, so perhaps go read some history books before your next troll attempt.
They do not know history and do not realize that their heroes Obama and Biden both removed the Churchill bust as they despised him.
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Their history books have been
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Feb 20, 2025, 3:22 PM
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rewritten.
The Pearl Harbor attack was planned and led by Trump's grandfather.
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Re: Their history books have been
Feb 20, 2025, 3:35 PM
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Trump's grandfather was a draft dodger and brothel owner, but he died in 1918. Trump's father made a lot of money during WW2, though. Woody Guthrie wrote a whole song about what a POS he was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_Trump
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Neither of those were President.***
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:36 AM
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L0L!!84!!***
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:38 AM
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Re: L0L!!84!!***
Feb 20, 2025, 8:40 AM
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What does the 84 mean?
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Orange Elite [5220]
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It's an old Lunge joke.
Feb 20, 2025, 3:32 PM
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There used to be a lot of "LOL!!!!!1!!!"s that would pop up from time to time, where someone would obviously let the shift button go and accidentally type a 1 instead of a ! in a long train of !'s.
So the joke was to intentionally mess it up and 'accidentally' type numbers that were far away from the 1 key -- like forcing the 'accident' to a ridiculous level as a way to poke fun at it. LOL !!!!84!!
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Re: L0L!!84!!***
Feb 20, 2025, 8:49 AM
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Anyone know what the 84 means on Captain's posts?
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
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Feb 20, 2025, 8:56 AM
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trump take away your wars?
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 9:07 AM
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If Trump were president in 1938 he would be widely popular.
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Feb 20, 2025, 9:15 AM
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The news would be reporting that he is cutting the size, scope, and spending of the federal govt. Returning power to states, and becoming the world's energy superpower.
But today he is total chaos, killing grandma, being a dictator, and "unhinged". ***see how dumb you libs sound?
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Paw Master [16293]
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Trump would be 165 yrs old beginning his second term
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Feb 20, 2025, 9:16 AM
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This would be the greatest comeback ever.
While I'm very pissed about Trump throwing Zelensky and Ukraine under the bus, it appears Trump just wants the war ended ASAP regardless of the terms, Trump may have dealt more forcefully with Hitler and averted war or completely stayed out of the fight.
Who knows about Trump-1938 edition?
However, Lindbergh never had anything close to the wealth or access to political power that Musk has. There probably has never been anyone remotely close to the standing that Musk has acquired.
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"I know he's wrong, but he's right because...."
Feb 20, 2025, 9:22 AM
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Does it ever get tiresome doing these mental gymnastics to defend him?
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Paw Master [16293]
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Reading Comp Hard at USC?
Feb 20, 2025, 9:31 AM
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I didn't vote for Trump and as I stated, I am very pissed about what Trump is saying regarding Zelensky and Ukraine.
Hypotheticals are just that. No one knows what Trump would have done in 1938. He may well have been an appeaser or he may have kept Hitler at bay.
The comparison of Lindbergh to Musk and their respective influence is not a valid comparison.
The comeback at 165 was an attempt at a joke.
Perhaps you should try some mental gymnastics yourself before wading in.
My post in no way was a defense of Trump.
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Re: Reading Comp Hard at USC?
Feb 20, 2025, 9:34 AM
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"While I'm very pissed about Trump throwing Zelensky and Ukraine under the bus, it appears Trump just wants the war ended ASAP regardless of the terms"
This is something you wrote and very much a defense of Trump.
Trying to lie that you weren't defending trump is exactly the mental gymnastics I was speaking about.
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Re: Reading Comp Hard at USC?
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Feb 20, 2025, 9:38 AM
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That quote is in no way a defense of Trump no matter how many times you say it is.
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When someone lies to your face
Feb 20, 2025, 9:44 AM
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do you actually believe them?
If not, why do you think it will work on me?
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Paw Master [16293]
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Mercy son
Feb 20, 2025, 9:44 AM
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I do believe Trump wants the war ended ASAP regardless of the terms. Do you not believe that as well?
I don't think that ending the war ASAP regardless of the terms is good for Ukraine, for Europe or for the US.
While I indeed did write what you have quoted, that is NOT a defense of Trump, quite the contrary.
Hopefully this helps, but if not, I can't break it down to more simpler terms.
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No. Trump clearly prefers a relationship with Russia over our historic Western
Feb 20, 2025, 9:56 AM
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allies.
Your comment was clearly meant as a defense to Trump's actions as if he is negotiating in good faith. He's not. He's clearly trying to help Russia out.
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Trump supports Putin's positions. He opposes Ukraine's.
Feb 20, 2025, 10:04 AM
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He is not simply trying to end the war with no position.
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Paw Master [16293]
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That's indisputable
Feb 20, 2025, 10:54 AM
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It is obvious that by initiating talks with Russia while not including Ukraine and by calling Zelensky a dictator and accusing Ukraine of starting this war, that Trump is taking the side of Russia in this war and is looking to end this war quickly, essentially without regard of Ukraine.
That stance obviously is to Russia's advantage and to the detriment of Ukraine.
This stance has our allies wondering if we will be there to help them should Russia attempt another act of aggression.
This is a very bad look for the United States. The negotiations to end this war should be hardballed and tilted in Ukraine's favor although there would have to be some concessions to end a war Ukraine cannot win without direct NATO involvement.
It's obvious Trump's stance is not neutral and that our country has shifted from being pro Ukraine to appeasement of Russia to end the war quickly. This is foolish on Trump's part and Rubio and Michael Waltz should resign if Trump continues down this love fest path with Putin.
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Maybe Trump should resign***
Feb 20, 2025, 10:59 AM
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Seems to be a few people...
Feb 20, 2025, 9:44 AM
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And credible ones at that, who know Trump and said Trump seemed to have a lot of odd fascination and respect for Hitler. I'm not so sure he would have stopped anything.
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I wonder what would have happened in 1941
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Feb 20, 2025, 9:34 AM
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when the US started the war with Japan after Pearl Harbor was bombed.
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Re: I wonder what would have happened in 1941
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Feb 20, 2025, 10:28 AM
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We should have just given Japan what they wanted. Sadly, we had to start a war after they bombed us.
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Re: I wonder what would have happened in 1941
Feb 20, 2025, 10:37 AM
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history seems to escape you
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Re: I wonder what would have happened in 1941
Feb 20, 2025, 10:38 AM
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Umm...what aspect are you talking about Einstein?
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Re: I wonder what would have happened in 1941
Feb 20, 2025, 10:42 AM
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ummmmm
russia has not attacked us
dang carlos
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Re: I wonder what would have happened in 1941
Feb 20, 2025, 10:43 AM
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Umm..it's going over your head apparently.
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 11:01 AM
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lefties hate russia because they dont give them kickbacks like their chinese lovers
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Elon loves China
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Feb 20, 2025, 12:03 PM
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He certainly wouldn't be as rich as he is without his Chinese factories. That's why you'll never hear him say anything bad about China or the CCP. I wonder what they might ask of him to continue doing business there.
Steve Bannon called him "an agent of Chinese influence".
Vivek Ramaswamy said Musk "jumps like a circus monkey when Xi Jinping calls" and is "increasingly beholden to China".
Tom Cotton accused him of "chasing Chinese dollars" and "shamefully supplicating China’s Communist rulers".
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 12:10 PM
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That's why people don't like Putin? Fascinating. Why do you live Russia so much? What's your reasoning?
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Re: If Trump were president in 1938
Feb 20, 2025, 12:40 PM
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They like Putin because he is anti-LGBT and they think Russia is some kind of bastion of Christianity. Never mind that a big chunk of Russia is majority-Muslim and Putin kisses their butts on the regular to keep the peace. Male-on-male rape is also very common in Russia.
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Don't talk too loudly about the male-on-male rape,
Feb 20, 2025, 3:42 PM
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we don't need to give them reasons to love Russia even more.
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