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Paw Master [16128]
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Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 20, 2023, 5:20 PM
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Linked below is a chart of the expenses of every NCAA Tournament basketball team this year. Clemson's expenses are just around $9 million per year. Our basketball revenue sits just around $9.5 Million per year.
Are we up there with Duke, UK, UCONN, MSU, and Kansas with basketball funding? NOT EVEN CLOSE. But if you look straight down that $10 Million line and to the left you will find nearly 2/3rds of the NCAA field. Part of this is due to mid major conference champions but 3 of the 4 #1 seeds spend between $9 Million and $11 Million per year on Basketball (Houston, Bama, and Purdue). These guys aren't spending tens of millions of dollars more than we are.
Don't let anyone try to convince you we are children of the poor in college basketball. We just don't have our expectations set high enough and we CERTAINLY aren't getting our money's worth out of this coach.
https://d3data.sportico.com/MarchMadnessExpenses/scatter2022men.html
https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2023/march-madness-2023-ncaa-top-seed-budgets-1234712159/
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 20, 2023, 5:31 PM
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head coaching salary is the number one expense of any basketball program. Lots of programs are also carrying payments to former coaches. If you remove head coaching salaries and look at the remaining budget, Clemson is competitive with anyone. It’s Judge Keller’s biggest lie and he’s roped many in with. Brad sucks. Fire Brad.
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yep, we got CBB locked in tight
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Mar 20, 2023, 5:35 PM
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Ain't nobody else getting him.
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 20, 2023, 5:31 PM
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I always did enjoy the sound of a broken record.
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 20, 2023, 5:35 PM
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Makes sense why you enjoy seeing Brad back year after year then.
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Top TigerNet [30559]
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hmmm, looks like our ROI isn't so awesome
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Mar 20, 2023, 5:33 PM
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we gots a plan though....... stay tuned for the exciting execution of 'the plan' next season.
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If not next season, the season after that.
Mar 21, 2023, 1:37 AM
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Wash, rinse, repeat.
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I agree with your point in general, but those numbers don't
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:14 PM
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include NIL payments to buy transfers/recruits do they?
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Paw Master [16128]
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That is correct...But I know our NIL collectives aren't JUST
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:27 PM
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for football players. Don't have the numbers on that unfortunately. But as far as support for the program from our athletic department, much of what you've heard is not true.
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:18 PM
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Yes, saw that recently. I am glad someone finally posted on it. What's this, no response from the Judge...?
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Why didn't you post it?***
Mar 20, 2023, 6:19 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101842]
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Fire Brad***
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:29 PM
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Paw Master [16128]
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I just don't understand how we can have all this information
Mar 20, 2023, 6:35 PM
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And our AD doesn't have access to it? Doesn't care? Is blinded by personal loyalty?
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Re: I just don't understand how we can have all this information
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:45 PM
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The sad part and reality is… our football program makes so much money at this point that the administration is content on other programs being average. There is no competitive spirit and as long as we run a clean program and keep the NCAA away, Neff could care less that the basketball program has no direction besides being right in the middle. No one cares because the cash cow is thriving, it’s very frustrating. If the football team was where we were in the early 2000’s they would dump money into basketball, we are just too cheap to spend money on buyouts.
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Paw Master [16128]
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I think you are 100% correct! Dabo has covered for the BB..
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Mar 20, 2023, 7:03 PM
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program year and year after year. You think we would have the money coming in if our football team hadn't won 7 of the last 8 ACC Championships and 2 National Championships in least 5 years?
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Re: I think you are 100% correct! Dabo has covered for the BB..
Mar 20, 2023, 8:00 PM
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Absolutely, if both bball and football were struggling we would be throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, but since football is thriving there is no need to push the envelope on basketball, we are relevant and make tons of money with football.
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Re: Fire Brad***
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:36 PM
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We’re stuck in a BB “GOR” …
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Paw Master [16128]
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All we need is Neff to have the balls to make the call
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:45 PM
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Unfortunately he doesn't. We hired an amateur as AD.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101842]
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Fire Neff***
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Mar 20, 2023, 6:57 PM
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We probably don’t pay the AD enough to make tough calls.
Mar 21, 2023, 1:41 AM
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We need to start comparing how much we invest in the AD, and pep bands, as compared to other, more successful programs.
That would probably make it obvious.
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
Mar 20, 2023, 6:51 PM
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Sort of excited to see how JK spins this.
Also, it seems like the only plausible excuse Neff has is…”we will not distract attention from our football program by making much of basketball.” <— that’s the only excuse that makes sense to me.
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 20, 2023, 7:05 PM
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That is absurd to see that Duke was supposed to spend that much money on basketball. Number 1, for what? Number 2, since Duke is a Private school and never releases that kind of data, who guessed at it?
As for getting our money's worth out of Brownell, with the wins we had this year, the answer was yes based on our wins compared to the wins at the other schools. Other than the Duke fake news, the biggest question is what was was the income at the other schools and what were the profits? Clemson made the right business decision years ago to reduce the seating in Littlejohn so we will never bring in the money that a North Carolina or Kentucky does.
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Re: Want to see real numbers on our funding of basketball???
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Mar 21, 2023, 9:32 AM
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also shows that the ACC should be doing a lot better. where is the Judge?
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