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I think I see the gameplan here. New study from Yale shows
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Feb 20, 2025, 10:31 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html
Well, tabloid "news" article cites a Yale study that they never linked to. So I will show you the actual study, and not the spin:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full-text
Now, you all know what I've posted on this board since 2020. There are studies, from BEFORE vaccines, that showed SARS-CoV2 causes:
Myocarditis (See Ohio State Big 10 athlete study from September 2020) Epstein-Barr (EBV) - Again, studies show COVID reactivates the virus, BEFORE vaccines Blood clots - Studies showed COVID causes blood clots, BEFORE vaccines LONG COVID - There was LONG SARS in 2009 from 2003 infections (30% unemployable), same symptoms POTS (the tabloid article calls this dizziness) - COVID causes it, proven BEFORE vaccines Chronic inflammation - Shown COVID causes it, BEFORE vaccines IMMUNE DAMAGE - Specifically low CD4 and ESPECIALLY CD8 T cell counts, caused by COVID, BEFORE vaccines Exercise intolerance - You guessed it, Long SARS, Long Covid, identified from COVID, BEFORE vaccines *They have found the impact on mitochondria at the cellular level, from COVID, before VACCINES, contributes to exercise intolerance/fatigue Persistent spike protein - Identified BEFORE VACCINES *They also noted s1 and s2 geneses present in brain tissue before vaccines, from COVID, meaning the virus breaks the brain/blood barrier. Fatigue - COVID shown to cause it, BEFORE VACCINES
The truth is there has always been a risk with covid vaccines, because they're made from part of a nasty virus. There is no guarantee the spike protein is benign, or safe. It is much safer than getting the entire virus, and imparts some immunity to the virus. It is MUCH MUCH safer than the virus itself. The calculation made, that we are not privy to, was everyone gets this virus, the S1 and S2 genes, either breathed in through their nose, or in a shot, but everyone gets it. But the damage is there, if you had the vaccine, or not. Almost every human on Earth carries the S1 and S2 genes, along with many others from the natural virus. Antibodies wane, but the percentages are well over 98% of people exposed. A 2022 study of people who had never been vaccinated, and claimed to have never had covid, 86% of them carried the N gene (nucleocapsid proteins), showing they had a natural infection. And that study was in 2022. So the calculation is give a "vaccine" that provides some immunity, then let everyone get it and not die. If you get long vaccine or long covid, you're going to get either anyway. The symptoms overlap for a very good reason. AND the immune damage is there, no matter what you've heard, vaccine or not.
I'd argue covid immune damage is causing the spike in RSV, norovirus, influenza, and other illnesses we're seeing (I think they're still blaming lockdowns/masks, but time is running out on that). I said many times, common infections will become more severe, and rare infections will become more common. Measles? TB? I had RSV back before December, sepsis and immune damage after covid in 2022. And yes, turbo cancers, that's also going to increase. Your immune system fights cancer daily for your entire life. If it's damaged, and can't do it's job, those cancers will grow faster. Blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, sudden deaths, ALL caused by actual covid. It's everywhere and is a part of life now. Just like influenza but with worse baggage. And remember, HIV infects people with zero symptoms, or rarely very mild symptoms. The acute stage of an HIV infection has a fatality rate below .1%. The 10 year survival rate from the virus, untreated, is around 5%.
From a liability standpoint, mRNA vaccines make a lot of sense, for something like covid. Even if not shielded from liability, Pfizer and Moderna can easily show they're not injecting you with anything you're not breathing on a near daily basis. And any side effects are not going to differ from the side effects of the whole virus, which are worse. I have yet to hear of a mRNA side effect that isn't also a much more common covid side effect, and there's plenty of evidence in China, and other countries who never used mRNA vaccines, and hundreds of studies and cases presenting with the same side effects before vaccines. And Long Covid isn't mysterious at all. It is a hallmark of SARS in 2003, and MERS later.
The Yale study doesn't assert ANYWHERE that vaccines cause ANY problems independently, that are not associated with a natural infection. In fact, they say the symptoms (NOT mysteriously) overlap. They tacitly admit immune damage results from natural covid, which I think I may have never seen in a US study. Always said, the mRNA vaccines are just a complimentary (safer) first covid infection. That's all they were designed to be. And if you assume you will be exposed, and infected (symptoms or not), then the vaccine safety issue is negligible relative to just living life and getting covid every year or two. Your first infection is the key. That will be the one with the most chance of a severe case, hospitalization, and death.
This study is all over anti-vax twitter/X. Actually the tabloid article is all over Twitter. I had to go to Google to find the study. 100 posts with the tabloid article, none with a link to the study.
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Sounds like you're saying the vaccine does nothing. I can believe that.***
Feb 20, 2025, 10:41 AM
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Now? Close to nothing.
Feb 20, 2025, 10:50 AM
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When they first came out they saved lives.
Just wish people educated themselves more.
The biggest pull from the Yale study was admission of immune damage from the natural virus. That's a first from a US study.
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I have Musk blocked, but I unblocked him just to demonstrate what
Feb 20, 2025, 3:40 PM
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America is up against. Musk re-posted a false analysis of the study posted by an Anti-Vax account. Same basic story all over Twitter. "Readers added context" explaining exactly what I said, along with a link to the actual study.
https://x.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1892382501261172922
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Re: I think I see the gameplan here. New study from Yale shows
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Feb 20, 2025, 4:09 PM
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