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CU Medallion [60333]
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Conspiracy Thread 2.0
Nov 19, 2020, 9:41 PM
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So Operation Warp Speed may give us a 95%+ vaccine in what, 6-8 months? But we cannot for the life of us figure out brain, lung, throat or really any other cancers?
We cannot pinpoint causes, relational aspects of the disease, but when the human race is all plagued with uncertainty and global economics are at threat, we can churn out a vaccine.
Very interesting.
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Re: Conspiracy Thread 2.0
Nov 19, 2020, 9:43 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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without a vaccine...
Nov 19, 2020, 10:01 PM
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Biden's chance for re-election in 2024 are doubtful.
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Oculus Spirit [79546]
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A dementia vaccine?***
Nov 20, 2020, 10:47 AM
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No money to be made off healthy folks or ones that die quick
Nov 19, 2020, 10:02 PM
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With Covid-19 they die too quick so more money to be made off a vaccine rather than treatment
Cancer is usually a long process with massive amounts of drugs, treatment, and technology that is a straight cash cow.
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How llong did it take the flu shot to be only 50% effective?***
Nov 19, 2020, 10:03 PM
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Re: No money to be made off healthy folks or ones that die quick
Nov 20, 2020, 6:36 AM
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^^^^^ Conspiracy Theory 2.1 ^^^^^
Now, for Conspiracy Theory 3.0: Just be glad Bill & Hillary don’t have a foundation to raise money for cancer treatment when you go public making statements like this....
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A virus is a non-living genetic entity.
Nov 19, 2020, 10:16 PM
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It can be pinpointed, and thanks to Edward Jenner, we can expose humans to components of the virus. Humans build immunity based on the exposure. Thank you, sweet pox-ridden milk maids.
Cancer is an entirely different problem. Cancer happens when an organism’s own cells decide to go rogue. Because of history and experience, we know that some things can help humans avoid the rebellious nature of these cells = avoid things we know that cause cancer. Don’t smoke. Wear sunscreen. Refrain from promiscuous sex. Etc.
Thanks to Henrietta Lacks, we have a tremendous understanding of cancerous cell growth. However, we don’t always know how or why cells decide to rebel.
It’s kinda like children. Most kids who are exposed to good parenting turn out to be productive, contributing citizens...but every once in a while, good kids go bad. Really bad. There’s no rhyme or reason to it. As long as good parents have kids, some of those kids will be total shîts = as long as humans are made of cells, some of those cells will decide that the cell cycle checkpoints are useless, and anything made of cells can develop cancer.
Thanks to the chemical warfare (mustard gas) of WW1, we have chemotherapy, and thanks to Wilhelm Röntgen, we can kill cancerous cells with radiation. But again, as long as there are cells, there will be cancer.
RIP, Henrietta Lacks. Your short life changed the world.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=22lGbAVWhro
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I read somewhere where we get cancer a lot
Nov 19, 2020, 10:35 PM
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but our bodies do fight it off successfully many times...until we do not.
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Every cell has the ability to kill itself
Nov 20, 2020, 6:44 AM
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it's called apoptosis. When a cell realizes it has issues it kills itself. This happens billions of times a day. Sometimes a cancerous cell does not realize that it is bad and does not kill itself, then it starts growing and dividing and then you get a tumor.
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Re: I read somewhere where we get cancer a lot
Nov 20, 2020, 11:55 AM
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According to the profs at CU when I was there every 1 x 10 to the 6th power cell divisions produce a viable cancer cell. Our immune system routinely takes them out. But cancer begins to grow when our immune system doesn't see the cell division that caused a cancer cell. This usually happens when you get older and you immune system becomes less effective
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Preach...
Nov 19, 2020, 10:46 PM
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I’m with you on this one. Cant cure the cold, which kills no one but causes folks to spend money on symptom management, but can vaccinate this in 6-8 months?
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Some viruses just make you feel puny.
Nov 19, 2020, 11:08 PM
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Others will kill you. Common cold viruses, which are mostly basic rhino viruses and corona viruses, will make you miserable for a few days. On the other hand, influenza and others, including SARS-CoV-2, can put one in a hospital and dependent on a ventilator.
Add preexisting conditions such as autoimmune diseases, sickle cell, respiratory illness, etc., and death is just around the corner.
Serious threats are not less serious because one doesn’t understand serious threats.
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Right. Or the common cold, 20% of which are coronaviruses.
Nov 20, 2020, 6:38 AM
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It's all about the money. Doctors have to make money. They make money on sick people. As does Big Pharma. It's the illness-industrial complex.
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Re: You don’t get it?
Nov 20, 2020, 7:47 AM
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It’s the superior progressives means of culling the common masses.
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Oculus Spirit [79546]
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Maybe because it's new, the medical community was forced
Nov 20, 2020, 10:52 AM
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to think outside of the box? They really, really don't like to do that otherwise it seems like. I know we were routinely amazed how procedures, trials, etc. would go from completely impossible to "yeah, let's do it!" over the course of a week when you pushed the issue.
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