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Orange Immortal [65478]
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Why are Democrats losing? I just saw an interview with Kurt Bardella
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Mar 20, 2025, 10:12 AM
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on NewsNation, and he absolutely nailed it. Dem leadership is living in an increasingly progressive, elitist bubble that isolates them from huge swaths of working class middle America, and instead of realizing and accepting that, and then trying to figure out how to reach them, they simply dismiss them as bad, ignorant people. Just so ya know, I think Pubs do a lot of the same thing, and at some point down the road may be in danger of losing for the same reason (not having a broader, more inclusive message).
I can't find any clips available of that interview yet, but here is one from a few days ago where he covers those points pretty well:
https://youtu.be/zo955L8SZ3E?si=OMLDhPVmJ_lnRiLU
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Orange Elite [5418]
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The Democrats are too honest
Mar 20, 2025, 10:14 AM
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The Republicans have really gained traction in this voter segment by lying to them about populism. This demographic is screaming out for a true progressive Democratic populist to come and make their lives better.
Which I think is going to be the next step for the Democrats because they're not winning by being moderates.
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Orange Immortal [65478]
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Yep. Just keep on believin'.
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Mar 20, 2025, 10:58 AM
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Keep on losin'.
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Re: The Democrats are too honest
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Mar 20, 2025, 11:00 AM
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I don't think you will get a true progressive to not focus on identity politics though. Or maybe you can tell me what a true progressive would be?
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Orange Elite [5418]
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A real progressive will focus on the economics
Mar 20, 2025, 11:49 AM
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such as Bernie Sanders.
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Re: A real progressive will focus on the economics
Mar 20, 2025, 11:54 AM
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Who do we have that is younger with charisma?
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Orange Elite [5418]
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We got 3 years to find someone
Mar 20, 2025, 12:03 PM
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even if they're just lying like Trump.
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Re: We got 3 years to find someone
Mar 20, 2025, 12:14 PM
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I don't think Trump is one of a kind. I think to win the Dems need middle of the road. I like Wes Moore. Of course Gavin Newsom will go all out, but I think he would have problems being from California.
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Re: We got 3 years to find someone
Mar 20, 2025, 12:22 PM
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I should have said, that I think Trump is one of a kind. There won't be anyone like him again imo.
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Re: The Democrats are too honest
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Mar 20, 2025, 11:03 AM
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You lost me on honest! Neither side is honest at all and the Dems are just gonna promise free stuff they can never deliver on to possibly win.
Current crop of Pubs are no different though, both sides are clueless they just approach it from different sides.
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Re: The Democrats are too honest
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Mar 20, 2025, 11:05 AM
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Plus one can not get elected by telling the truth on the economy, taxes etc. $36T in debt , it is time to stop digging that hole and admit we desperately need spending cuts AND tax increases.
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Orange Immortal [65478]
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You're probably right. Ideally, we need an excellent communicator who
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Mar 20, 2025, 11:32 AM
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can deliver a message that acknowledges truthful realities and underscores the necessity of it while emphasizing the hope and prosperity that will ultimately follow. Unfortunately, that's a tough message most peple do not want to hear.
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Re: The Democrats are too honest
Mar 20, 2025, 12:22 PM
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Part of the reason the Dems lost the Presidential election was because of the obvious lie that Joe Biden was mentally fit for office that was exposed during the debate.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52679]
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Why are Democrats losing? Here's some credible reasons:
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Mar 20, 2025, 12:00 PM
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They support an open border
They support sanctuary cities/states
They support men in women's sports
They support DEI
They support Hamas
They support judicial legislation
They support high taxes, thinking ultra-wealthy "fair share" taxation will solve the debt
They support free healthcare/housing/education for illegal aliens
But their entire platform is "Hate Trump"
Shall I continue?
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Re: Why are Democrats losing? Here's some credible reasons:
Mar 20, 2025, 12:16 PM
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I think you are accurate sadly. The white privilege comments don't help either. Anything woke hurts their cause actually.
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Orange Elite [5418]
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We lost because of the economy
Mar 20, 2025, 5:34 PM
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And this country still can’t handle a female in charge.
The beauty of Trump’s first term was that he didn’t really do anything. This term he’s actually doing stuff and people don’t like it.
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Re: We lost because of the economy
Mar 20, 2025, 5:42 PM
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This country can handle a female. If it's the right female and she was not. Its like how everyone said we couldn't handle a black president until Obama won twice. You can just put somebody out there that people don't like just because she fits some demographics they want to push.
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Orange Elite [5418]
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This country couldn't handle Obama being president
Mar 21, 2025, 10:50 AM
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which is why we've seen a rise in white nationalism immediately following his presidency.
But Obama won twice because of the economy. That's how important the economy is to deciding elections.
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Orange Immortal [65478]
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Re: Why are Democrats losing? Here's some credible reasons:
Mar 20, 2025, 2:14 PM
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Don't forget that you're gonna die of old age before you see the party that's screamed like banchees about less than 1% of govt spending being cut suddenly advocating massive spending cuts anywhere outside the DoD.
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Ditch the MAGAs and have a real Conservative Party.
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Mar 20, 2025, 12:10 PM
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would be ideal.
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Orange Immortal [65478]
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I don't think that's a solution available to Dems.
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Mar 20, 2025, 12:24 PM
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They certainly need a message that acknowledges much of middle America as something other than bad, deplorable people.
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Clemson Icon [24979]
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Re: I don't think that's a solution available to Dems.
Mar 20, 2025, 12:27 PM
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That message has already been abandoned.
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They have missed on reaching millennials and Gen Z with an Abundance Mindset
Mar 20, 2025, 3:42 PM
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Example: Abundant Housing
The most important voting demographic needs more affordable housing in order to start families, and despite record job numbers, the cost of housing made this once core feature of the American success path extremely challenging.
To make housing abundant, they need to reform all of the local laws that hinder development of inexpensive housing. So massive deregulation and incentivizing a variety of housing types but especially the kind that makes the financial realities of procreating a nuclear family a realistic choice for young people.
Then the abundance mindset needs to be applied to everything else that really matters to health and welfare of young working people. The idea is that if it is abundant enough, it will be more attainable in a competitive world. So more abundant health care, more abundant transportation, abundant energy, etc. This obviously would be antithetical to older boomers who wanted regulations on everything, especially development in their backyards.
It’s actually not my idea at all, but these guys wrote a compelling book that describes what the Dems should be talking about.
It’s actually called “Abundance”.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-with-kara-swisher/id1643307527?i=1000699472425
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