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Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Mar 31, 2018, 9:06 PM
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I have to be honest, even w/ summer school, is it really possible to get a quality education in 3 years? Possible, I suspect, but not easy. It took my full 7 semesters (3.5 years) - no summer sessions as I had to work to earn tuition - for my 139 semester hours in Electrical Engineering. I am proud of that, gave me a full 40 year career out of it - but I question so many football players getting a degree in just 3 years.
Jadar and CJ Fuller examples tarnish our University's name and everything associated with it. I think Dabo has made no statement, correct?
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You missed the class on Common Sense
Mar 31, 2018, 9:09 PM
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Your post tipped me off.
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Tiger Titan [50785]
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Fuller and Johnson haven’t tarnished Clemson’s name.
Mar 31, 2018, 9:13 PM
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I hope your post was an attempt at humor. If not, you are being way too dramatic.
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Re: Fuller and Johnson haven’t tarnished Clemson’s name.
Mar 31, 2018, 9:16 PM
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the OP is your garden variety coot troll and not a particularly bright one at that
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Yep. Besides, Johnson graduated
Mar 31, 2018, 9:22 PM
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In 4 years not 3 and Fuller(hasn’t graduated) was scheduled to graduate in 4.
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Heisman Winner [78612]
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Your rusted out garnet Oldsmobuick with bald tires was the tip off.
Mar 31, 2018, 9:19 PM
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It's really burgundy, but you like to call it garnet. But let's be honest here, you can't get a quality education at the University of SuCk no matter how many years you are there, coot.
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Solid Orange [1322]
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Mar 31, 2018, 9:29 PM
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most majors now require around 120 hours. i had to have 130-135, in that neighborhood. that's around a semester less right there. a lot of kids come in with college credit now, too. that didn't happen in my day. with all kinds of mini semesters, summer school 1 and 2, internet courses... 3.5 years is very possible.
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Clemson Icon [26034]
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i think i needed 132. if we are down to 120, what happened?
Mar 31, 2018, 10:12 PM
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But regardless, 120 over three years is 20 per semester plus full time football. How does that happen? No way a person can do that under normal conditions.
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Re: i think i needed 132. if we are down to 120, what happened?
Apr 1, 2018, 3:02 AM
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Summer school
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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Bingo and such an easy answer.***
Apr 1, 2018, 7:24 AM
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Re: i think i needed 132. if we are down to 120, what happened?
Apr 7, 2018, 9:46 PM
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Cliff Hanmonds got a degree in Arcitecture, with a 4.0. Started on basketball team. Albeit I think he was here for 4 years. That’s impressive!
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CU Guru [1899]
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Re: hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees - 120 hrs??
Apr 1, 2018, 2:38 AM
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So when did Universities drop to 120 hrs for degrees..
My degree was about 135 hrs in '79.
Even here in Texas, I hear students saying the same thing.. about 120 hrs for the schools in this region.
GO TIGERS!!!
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lol....and yet year after year, survey after survey, ranking
Mar 31, 2018, 9:31 PM
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after ranking, Clemson remains far ahead of usuck academically.... Clemson's reputation certainly isn't taking any hits from poorly educated chickentrolls who cling to the skirts of their women's basketball team for the tiniest amount of validation...... safe to say in a lot of academic and sports conversations, usuck is the jokebutt
dontcha think? I mean we can provide links to all kinds of places that'll verify those academic rankings....but, whats the point?? everyone already knows the truth
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Re: lol....and yet year after year, survey after survey, ranking
Apr 1, 2018, 11:02 AM
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Yes, our rankings are quite good and I believe everyone in Clemson Family desires to keep up the good work and improve where we can.
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Orange Blooded [4142]
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Mar 31, 2018, 9:35 PM
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Congratulations . We're all proud of you .
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Mar 31, 2018, 9:42 PM
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Mar 31, 2018, 9:48 PM
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Pretty sure that’s just for the major not the basic university requirements
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Not many of those athletes graduating in 3 years, majored in
Mar 31, 2018, 9:50 PM
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Electrical Engineering!!
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Clemson Icon [26034]
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40+ hours per year, on top of a full time football job
Mar 31, 2018, 10:08 PM
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seems like an awfully lot. Would like to hear this explained a bit before I buy into the narrative,
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All-TigerNet [5919]
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Almost all football players
Mar 31, 2018, 10:43 PM
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go to two sessions of summer school and start no later than the second summer session before their first fall semester. If they are early enrollees, they get an extra spring and two summer sessions before their first fall semester.
So 12 hours in the summer and average 15 hours per fall and spring semester and you get to 120 hours in 3 years.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102948]
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Let me explain it to you.
Apr 1, 2018, 12:29 AM
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If someone had all your money and the only way to get it back was to go and take it from them would you go take it?
That's how I dealt with the challenges of working full time while attending Clemson. From my perspective the university had my effin' education and I went and took what belonged to me. I paid for it and they couldn't keep it because it was mine.
If you're a pooseyaszed little mama's boy who still gets his milk from the teat this probably won't work for you. I use you as meaning any 'pooseyaszed little mama's boys,' not you specifically.
I doubt the PALMB last long in Dabo's camp.
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Wow. Please post more often so we can all get a good laugh.
Mar 31, 2018, 10:10 PM
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First off I don’t understand what C.J. and Jadar have to do with graduating in three years. Your post is another lame attempt to take a cheap shot at Dabo and the football program but I hope you understand that some of our players come in with a great plan and follow through with it.
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Tiger fans unable to stand any introspection...
Mar 31, 2018, 10:30 PM
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First of all, I am not a "coot", I have a bachelor's in ECE with gpa of 3.84 and a master's with gpa of 4.0.
Obsession to call each poster one disagrees with a "coot" is borderline sickening, hope people will seek professional help.
I believe Dabo is a great coach and best fit for us with genuine caring for his players and for Clemson. There is no greater fan than me. But Clemson is not a cult (perhaps as USC may be), open discussion should be welcome.
My point is that in hyping 3 year degrees and character of his players we set ourselves for great disappointment and criticism when something like recent incident happens. One (or two) bad apples don't spoil the basket, and even now i hope for these young men that there is some other explanation.
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Tiger fans unable to stand any introspection...
Mar 31, 2018, 10:30 PM
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First of all, I am not a "coot", I have a bachelor's in ECE with gpa of 3.84 and a master's with gpa of 4.0.
Obsession to call each poster one disagrees with a "coot" is borderline sickening, hope people will seek professional help.
I believe Dabo is a great coach and best fit for us with genuine caring for his players and for Clemson. There is no greater fan than me. But Clemson is not a cult (perhaps as USC may be), open discussion should be welcome.
My point is that in hyping 3 year degrees and character of his players we set ourselves for great disappointment and criticism when something like recent incident happens. One (or two) bad apples don't spoil the basket, and even now i hope for these young men that there is some other explanation.
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Re: Tiger fans unable to stand any introspection...
Mar 31, 2018, 11:07 PM
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I'm so glad you posted this... you are exactly right. What these 2 kids did completely proves Dabo wrong in the culture he is turning Clemson into.
I mean Deshaun, Artavis, Williams, Gallman, etc... they are all terrible people who don't represent Clemson. Worse than them is RRM3, Sammy, Cain (who didn't learn any life lessons at Clemson)... those guys left after 3 years without a degree and shouldn't represent "us".
I could keep the list going of great kids Dabo has recruited and continues to recruit that should make you proud to be a fan and/or alumni but I guess this one isolated incident has proven me wrong. Oh well maybe we should fire Dabo and hire Saban, Fisher, or probably your favorite Champ since they are such model coaches.
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Know what you mean....it really hacks me off when
Mar 31, 2018, 11:14 PM
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after I tell people about my degrees from Clemson and then mention my Ph.D in philosophy from Harvard and the summer I spent at Cambridge, people start to roll their eyes and occasionally question the law degree from Georgetown. But what can ya do?? Mention the 3 year degrees at Duke?? At Stanford?? People are laughing at them too, I guess...
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CU Medallion [20937]
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Had you pegged for a Yale Man***
Apr 8, 2018, 2:29 PM
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Ok. I never called you a “coot”
Apr 1, 2018, 7:07 AM
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Out of all the posters on your thread who have called you a coot you decide to respond to someone who did not call you a coot but has a screen name and an icon meant to provoke trolls. Hmmmm.
The so called “hyping” of three year degrees has nothing to do with Jadar and CJ or what they did. Keep in mind that they are both former players and are no longer in the football program. Dabo runs a tight ship. When players mess up they are disciplined. Unlike a lot of other schools our players actually miss playing time or are dismissed from the team. He doesn’t care if your name is Sammy Watkins. If a player gets in trouble then that player will sit. Every Clemson player and fan who has followed this program knows this and it sets an example for others who might think about doing something they may regret. Dabo can’t be with these guys all the time and control their lives much less can he do anything about former players getting into trouble. Anybody who cares to be realistic about the situation knows this.
I send my apologies to you IF your post is not a lame attempt to troll but I completely disagree with your attempt to connect CJ and Jadar with three year degrees. I’ve had a poster on here call me a coot before. Let it roll off of you. This is an sports message board on the internet full of anonymous posters. I wouldn’t take very much of what goes on in a forum like this seriously. I come in here to talk sports and have a little fun. Nothing I said to you or any other person that I suspect of trolling is meant to be taken personal. One thing I do not like is for people to pretend to be something they are not in order to troll this board. People who do it need to find something better to do with their time. If you’re in that category then I would encourage you to do something more constructive. Have a good day.
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Re: Ok. I never called you a “coot”
Apr 1, 2018, 8:47 AM
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My apologies brother as I did not mean to imply you called me a coot, I was replying generally to the thread. No disrespect meant.
I love my Tigers and my Clemson who gave me a career and a chance at a great life. Just feeling frustrated and not happy we can't discuss things without being attacked as disloyal or worse.
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It’s all good. Enjoy your day.***
Apr 1, 2018, 8:57 AM
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Re: Kudos? Did you start this thread to make a point or just
Apr 1, 2018, 11:07 AM
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I started the tread to vent frustrations at Jadar and CJ incident and how (just like Monte's "We eat stress..." comment) too much bragging can backfire.
Anyway, the board is mostly dominated by Cult like following of Clemson football where no introspection or worries can be shared. Peace out - I mention my degrees as I am proud of my Clemson education, and to try to counter the responses that that tell me I must be the biggest freaking idiot/coot in the world. I have always believed I was above average in intelligence, after all, I am a Clemson Man!
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Mar 31, 2018, 10:11 PM
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During WW2 the Army had the Army Specialized Training Program (ASTP), a program designed to provide the Army with various disciplines, among them, engineering. The course granted a Bachelor's degree in 18 months. I was in the program at Carnegie Tech and we had to work our tails off. The program was abandoned, not because it was a failure, but because the Army needed immediately the men who were in the program. I can assure you there were no short cuts. Now, it's difficult to compare that highly compacted schedule with the current university schedule but it's quite possible to earn a degree in three years, even in what some would consider the most difficult disciplines. But it all depends on the student.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102948]
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I was only at Clemson 3 years.
Apr 1, 2018, 12:23 AM
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I spent a quarter at G'ville Tech proving I could do college level work then transferred to Clemson. They wouldn't allow transfers from outside the university to The College of Art and Architecture so I enrolled and wasted a semester in Engineering then transfered to A and A. That pretty much blew the 12 hours I got from Gville Tech.
So yeah, 3 years was enough for me to get a degree in Building Science and Construction Management. Maybe it just wasn't enough for you and you think everyone else is a PALMB* too.
See my previous post in this thread for definition of PALMB
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3 summers taking classes could mean 36 credits.
Apr 1, 2018, 7:37 AM
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I got 24 credits over two summers.
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The way high schools structure their courses now...
Apr 1, 2018, 7:53 AM
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it's not uncommon for a lot of students to arrive at Clemson (or any college for that matter) having already earned quite a few college credits while in high school. This is the primary reason you see/hear of so may students being able to graduate in three years.
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Re: The way high schools structure their courses now...
Apr 8, 2018, 2:43 PM
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Thank you BigCUFan, you seem to be the first one to take into account how accelerated most K-12 programs have become. With computer classes in kindergarten, learning about the Holocaust in 3rd grade, and algebra by 4th grade, our kids are tearing through most subjects at almost light speed. They are expected to take 9th grade English and Algebra and 10th grade Spanish during middle school, so they'll be ready for AP classes by 9th grade and dual credit classes by their junior year. Many kids are academic sophomores they day they move into the freshman dorms. When you consider athletes have tutors and summer classes to keep them on track, on-time or early graduation is a realistic expectation these days.
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Wow...just wow !!!!***
Apr 1, 2018, 7:45 AM
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What in the world does the Johnson and Fuller incident have
Apr 1, 2018, 9:01 AM
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to do with players graduating in 3 years?
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Game Changer [1965]
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Re: What in the world does the Johnson and Fuller incident have
Apr 1, 2018, 9:27 AM
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I like the OPs logic. If you are better for taking longer to graduate I must be an amazing person b cause I graduated in 5 years. Dabo would be so proud 
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I also paced myself ... well played CME08***
Apr 8, 2018, 2:32 PM
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I wish I could TD this multiple times... coot***
Apr 1, 2018, 11:04 AM
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Game Changer [1977]
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Apr 1, 2018, 11:18 AM
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There's no way you graduated from a university. Im doubting that you made it out of high school from reading your post
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Maybe we should lighten up on Easter.*****
Apr 1, 2018, 11:28 AM
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Apr 1, 2018, 2:29 PM
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What was/is your major at Clemson? How many credits per semester did you carry? Care to share your transcript? What made you conclude I have no education beyond highschool? ( I was hoping to keep that hidden for longer, lol!)
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Game Changer [1977]
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Re: Hope Dabo tones down the hyping of 3 year Clemson degrees
Apr 7, 2018, 9:05 PM
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Just the way you form your thoughts and ramble all over the place. There's no way you graduated from any college.
And you said something about Clemson not being a cult and also said that USC may be. I don't understand what a school in California has to do with this discussion
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You should have transferred to ####***
Apr 7, 2018, 9:38 PM
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