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Re: I don't think the EV mandate is what has Musk angry. It's the spending.

Jul 2, 2025, 8:55 AM

He was also massively jammed up the Chinese.

Gigafactory Shanghai delivers more than half his vehicles and that leverages him to the gills. Leaving aside the fact that Shanghai is literally the worst city on Earth to put a massive-scale factory in - I mean, the city is SINKING due to its extraordinary weight and the fact that they're draining the aquifer under it, and it'll be underwater in less than 10-15 years, but it's also got the worst demographics in the nation with the worst demographics on Earth.

The city is OLD - average age is close to 50 - and it's stupidly expensive. Young people are fleeing Shanghai faster than you can say: "Lying flat". The ambitious ones head to Shenzhen, the Chinese version of Silicon Valley, the ones basically just looking for a place to ride it out to the end are going anywhere cheap. There's plenty of empty homes out in the countryside...the countryside itself is emptying at an alarming rate. Their population is collapsing.

Leaving that aside, the Chinese can also lean all over him because of that. They don't even have to nationalize his Gigafactory though that's coming once he's of no further use to them. All they have to do is step on some critical inputs and production screeches to a halt...for as long as they care to shut it down. Tesla will be broke in three months.

My guess - actually, a lot of peoples' guess - was this was the reason he showed up at the Pentagon out of a clear blue sky, demanding a briefing on the US's defense plans for Taiwan. Trump clearly was not in on that and it seemed to take even Donald aback; that actually seemed to be the start of their falling out. Whatever else you can say about Donald, his dislike of the Chinese is perfectly sincere.

Elon puts on a brave face - probably bolstered by horse-sized doses of ketamine - but you can tell he's desperate and has been for awhile.

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One thing you can say about a lot of US voters is that they appear to be quite fickle. Musk is the best illustration of that. The guy makes viable electric vehicles and the Democrats love him...starts pushing back on their social agenda and they hate him. Works tirelessly to get Trump elected and becomes his leading cheerleader and MAGA loves him...questions one bill and MAGA hates him.

Anyway, I don't pretend to fully understand Musk but I think he is indeed an idealist. And I like that about him. I really think a non-idealist, when suggesting that he is going to make an electric car company or send rockets into space, would have given in when all his smart, "realist" friends told him he needed to invest in real estate and hedge funds or whatever. He didn't and I like that about him.

I would suspect that Musk would help define the vision, finance it and use his platform to market the candidates. He's almost certainly not going to run for office himself (and not even eligible for the Presidency). I think it would be great. As I've said on here before, I am a man without a party right now, so I would certainly welcome another voice.

Elon still going hard in the paint.

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Most of us

I think he's a naive idealist. I can respect that.....even more when he is

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I don't think the EV mandate is what has Musk angry. It's the spending.

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Re: I don't think the EV mandate is what has Musk angry. It's the spending.

It may well be the last thing he does on this Earth.

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MAGA might go burn some dealerships or something.***

They could always just storm the Capitol.

Deflect***

Yes, that's what Keowee was doing.

That was the FBI***

Im sure Kash and Dan will confirm this any day now

If there is a tesla service center near a golden corral

I've said it before, Elon

Hard

Elon financing a new fiscal Conservative Party would be VERY interesting.***

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Me too. I'm not sure Musk is the one to deliver a "halfway normal" 3rd party

It will be interesting to see. I don't hate him (although I'm neither MAGA nor

And of course, Trump fires back harder. Threatens deportation.

I'm with you. This type of movement would require $$$, which Musk has - but

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I am envious of your ability to create a narrative with virtually no factual

Yes, that is in fact what I just typed***

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