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FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 11:25 AM
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Why is it that they are ahead of us? We have our whole offense coming back that beat them last year and had them 2 years ago at their house with DW a freshman. I know our D has some shoes to fill. Does FSU have all their starters back on D or what? I just don't understand! TIA
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 11:29 AM
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FSU had 18 starters returning, including all 11 on offense, along with a great recruiting class.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 11:31 AM
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get back to us in August, the arrest season starts soon.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 11:32 AM
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You say that like Jimbo/FSU will actually do something about it.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 11:35 AM
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Jimbo's hands are normally tied, I imagine your beef is with the former Leon Country District Attorney.
Whitney Smith
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there'll certainly be no assistance from the Tallahassee PD***
Feb 9, 2016, 12:52 PM
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Then returning all 11 starters on O is a bit of an
Feb 9, 2016, 12:54 PM
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advantage, on account of they don't have a stellar QB.
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FSU is not ranked ahead. Both teams are 0-0.***
Feb 9, 2016, 11:39 AM
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 11:45 AM
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FSU is arguably more talented than Clemson, and I think they have more returning starters than Clemson. We have DW, which I think makes Clemson the team to beat. But, I think FSU's roster top to bottom has fewer questions marks than Clemson (defense, and don't forget special teams).
FSU is arguably the most talented team in the country, but Clemson is pretty close. FSU is going to be very good next year, and ESPN is on the money with a #2 projection. Don't be surprised if the winner of the Clemson FSU game is next year's National Champion. Also, don't be surprised if the loser still ends up in the playoff.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 12:03 PM
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Maybe. While I will agree the two teams are that talented, we could get hit for much the same reason that Ohio State got hit this past year...the perception that our conference is not that strong. In that case, a late loss to FSU could be fatal.
I do think Clemson and FSU are Top-5 programs nationally right now, along with Ohio State and Alabama...you can make an argument, I suppose, that Oklahoma is the fifth big national power but I have my own opinions on how good the Big 12 really is. I kind of think they belong in the "next group up" of teams like Stanford, Notre Dame, Michigan State, Michigan, and Baylor, and maybe Oregon...Top-10 teams, but not really national title contenders.
The ACC could use some balance. FSU and Clemson are monsters, but the rest of the ACC is bottom-of-the-top-25 at best. Louisville and last year, UNC, are solid, nobody else really is. Especially with VT and Miami not really doing their part in the Coastal - for basically the last 10 years - the general perception of the ACC continually takes some hits. They were supposed to be cornerstones and superpowers, like they were in the Big East...they just haven't been. And I do think the rest of the ACC kind of takes away from the perception of how good Clemson - and even FSU - really are.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 1:29 PM
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That was a great post.
Getting Miami and VT to be consistent top 25 programs again is key for long-term balance. To your point, I think the rest of the Country was shocked at how good Clemson was last year (especially at the end). The ACC's reputation is definitely still a drag.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 4:28 PM
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Mark Richt should be able to get Miami performing at an elite level. It's going to do wonders for the ACC. If Fuente can get VT back to where they were the top of the ACC will really be one of the top 3 conferences.
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Irregardless of who has/had
Feb 10, 2016, 4:55 PM
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the best conference last year. The SEC East was the worst division in Power-Five football.
Even with Miami and VT being "down" the ACC Coastal was probably a better division....that's funny.
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Re: Irregardless of who has/had
Feb 10, 2016, 5:13 PM
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The worst team in the SEC East beat the ACC Coastal champions...
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Does anyone really believe SC was better though? If they
Feb 10, 2016, 5:27 PM
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had played again at the end of the season, you think SC would've won?
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Re: Does anyone really believe SC was better though? If they
Feb 10, 2016, 6:26 PM
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Does anyone really believe the coastal was better than the sec east?
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Re: Does anyone really believe SC was better though? If they
Feb 10, 2016, 6:54 PM
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The whole country, everybody (except SEC fans).
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Re: Irregardless of who has/had
Feb 10, 2016, 6:53 PM
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...lol.
Let's give credit to the ACC Coastal Champ for playing their worst game of the season. They gift-wrapped your BIG win. UNC would have gone 0-for the season if they played like that against the Coastal division.
South Carolina homers, you never learn. You have ZERO championships in 123+ years of playing football. By definition you are losers. You chant "SEC, SEC". You do it because you don't have any championships/accomplishments in your entire history. How do you even do that??? Lol
2015 Season Summary: You lost to The Citadel, got lucky against UNC in the 1st game, your coach quit on you mid-season, and you went 3-7. SEC Least worthy, for sure.
Go back to watching women's basketball....and getting blown out by UCONN, again. It's your best sport, and you're not that good at it.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 12:14 PM
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Just look at the preseason top 5 from last year, then look at the top 5 in December. There. Feel better? It's like swallowing a Xanax with a glass of '84 Mayacamas.
Preseason rankings mean ####, especially in February.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 12:38 PM
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You know basically I am with everyone else...it is Feburary so who cares. What erks me is that everyone said last year that until we beat FSU we could not claim to be the best in the ACC. Check...did that. Two years ago FSU made the playoff and were ranked ahead of us in preseason (10 them 12 us). This year we make the playoff and THEY ARE STILL ranked ahead of us??? I understand the questions about the returners but did anyone watch them in their bowl game? Their OL is terrible. I don't get it.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 12:49 PM
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Florida State is going to need a QB to beat us or to make a run for the NAtty. I don't see Sean Maguire getting it done...
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Feb 9, 2016, 1:43 PM
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Yeah how does a team get beat by Houston & still gets #1 recruiting class. I don't get it.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 3:19 PM
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$$$$
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Well, those things don't really have much to do with each
Feb 9, 2016, 3:21 PM
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other.
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Because they inked the number one recruiting class
Feb 9, 2016, 1:44 PM
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this gets overhyped by the media. With that and the return of Dalvin + the Clemson game occurring at home, FSU will probably be the pre season pick for the ACC and is therefore ranked ahead. I don't think this should come at very much of a shock.
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not so sure that they will be the pre-season pick...
Feb 9, 2016, 3:21 PM
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if those voting look at the QB situation.
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CU Guru [1806]
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very true. We have the solid advantage in QB over them. But
Feb 9, 2016, 4:33 PM
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in every other category, we are toe to toe. With them having the home edge, do not expect that game to come easy. In fact, I'm preparing mentally that we may lose that game and should we win down there for the first time in 10 years (5 tries), then I will be very happy.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 3:19 PM
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We like it when people underestimate us. It always seems to work to our advantage. I dare you, go ahead and knock that battery off my shoulder.
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Re: FSU ranked ahead
Feb 9, 2016, 3:44 PM
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Who cares? We play them. The rankings will be corrected on that date.
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Because we play in Tallahassee. I do like our chances if
Feb 9, 2016, 4:31 PM
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McGuire is the QB but if one of their more mobile and talented younger guys wins the job and starts producing, I don't like our chances as much.
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We got them and anybody else ranked ahead of us right where
Feb 10, 2016, 6:29 PM
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we want them - Tigers thrive when not respected!
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