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Tiger Titan [49070]
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Clemson Conqueror [11174]
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Needs to be
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Jun 10, 2025, 10:04 PM
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A Nashville riot
C'mon man. That's pitiful USMNT
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Tiger Titan [49070]
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But the city woulda burned down!***
Jun 10, 2025, 10:05 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11174]
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Reinforcements
Jun 10, 2025, 10:07 PM
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Are needed
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
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Jun 10, 2025, 10:17 PM
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I would recommend watching some video to get a real feel. I've seen hours of live stream. No reason to try to downplay what is going on.
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Tiger Titan [49070]
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I've watched plenty
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Jun 10, 2025, 10:19 PM
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I'm not downplaying what's happening there (although local law enforcement is doing fine). I'm downplaying Trump's claims the city would have burned down.
This is a manufactured crisis. Period. To seize power. And that's SOP for dictators.
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Re: I've watched plenty
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What do you mean by manufactured? Do you believe the people committing violence are working for Trump?
Let me know when the military seizes power in LA. Because if the Marines are actually trying to seize power, I'm a little disappointed in their abilities.
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Re: I've watched plenty
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Jun 11, 2025, 10:55 AM
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1. Deny basic rights to a marginalized group and make them desperate. 2. Send in your goons (ICE) to raid them in a major blue city where there will likely be resistance. 3. Send in the military for a heavy-handed response. 4. Hope for bloodshed.
C'mon, man. You know what a POS Trump is. You know how horrible of a person he is and how he wants to be a dictator. How can you not see this now?
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Re: I've watched plenty
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Jun 11, 2025, 11:55 AM
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I can understand Trump is a POS and understand people shouldn't be attacking ICE. I can understand that people who are committing violent acts are responsible for committing violent acts. I can understand that state and local governments should not be interfering with ICE deportation operations.
I can understand all of these things at once.
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Re: I've watched plenty
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Jun 10, 2025, 11:52 PM
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Has the LAPD police chief disavowed the statement of Sunday evening that the LAPD was “overwhelmed?”
Does Trump control the actions of the LAPD? Did he tell them to fire to date over 600 rubber bullets at the “peaceful protesters?”
Maxine Waters insists there is no violence occurring. That’s awesome that she’s in Congress.
I’m not persuaded at all that LA would have burned down without Trump calling in the Guard, but this is still a big deal.
Only tonight has Karen Bass decided to impose a limited curfew. Tonight Gavin is flexing and stating those committing violent acts and destroying property would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. A few days ago, he said persons committing such acts would risk arrest. Yes, horrors, risk arrest.
When cities cling to sanctuary city status, should the Feds just say ok, do as you wish? ICE will stay away and have a nice day?
The actions of the violent protesters have done nothing but hurt those they claim they care about.
The violence in LA while not on a scale of what went down in Minneapolis and other cities in 2020, is not a nothing burger and I’m glad Trump will not allow that to happen.
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Re: I've watched plenty
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Jun 11, 2025, 6:10 AM
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Trump is doing his best to provoke people into protesting and to get some to cross the line so he can hurt them. If you support this, you are pure stupid trash. And welcome to go eff youself.
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Paw Master [16463]
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Hostility for breakfast?
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Jun 11, 2025, 7:42 AM
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Some people are easily provoked, don’t you think?
I support peaceful protests. I do not support violent protests. I do not support violence against the police, destruction of property or the return of CA to Mexico as some of the nice protesters have verbalized.
Have a nice day. Hopefully you can find a way to control your anger. You are easily angered and quick to verbally attack the intelligence of folks you disagree with despite not having a clue about their level of intelligence. Is that intelligent?
As to the invitation to go eff myself. I only wish I had that capability, but I would use that gift differently.
I really don’t care what you think, but hope you seek counseling re: anger.
You’re not in a healthy place.
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Re: Hostility for breakfast?
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Jun 11, 2025, 8:10 AM
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Bourbon makes a good breakfast for some
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Re: Hostility for breakfast?
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Jun 11, 2025, 8:14 AM
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LOL. Perhaps with a side dish of meth seasoned with just a speck of Angel Dust.
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Re: Hostility for breakfast?
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I know you are a physician and decently intelligent. I know you are smarter than you sometimes show, and that’s part of the point. Nothing that Trump is doing is legitimate. He’s trying to provoke people into actions that can justify (1) invoking the Insurrection Act and then (2) declaring martial law and suspending elections. I know it’s not a real doctorate, but that MD means you should be smart enough to see this.
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If someone doesnt support your view they are pure stupid trash?
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Jun 11, 2025, 12:45 PM
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FN A man!
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Re: If someone doesnt support your view they are pure stupid trash?
Jun 11, 2025, 10:19 PM
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I call shytheads wherever I see them. And they are everywhere. This particular dude is way better than that, though. But sometimes people like him just need to be prodded in the right direction. Good person with some misconceptions.
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Re: Says the guy that thinks we're fighting Mexico in this "battle" for LA, lol***
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Jun 10, 2025, 11:25 PM
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Well, that's what it looks like.
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CU Medallion [19130]
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You should question which videos you're watching***
Jun 10, 2025, 11:55 PM
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Re: You should question which videos you're watching***
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Jun 11, 2025, 6:30 AM
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The live feed of local stations for multiple hours. Maybe you should question what you have been watching.
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If true, and your take away is that the US is fighting Mexico for LA....
Jun 11, 2025, 4:42 PM
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then I wonder what you're seeing that the rest of the country and world (or aren't MAGA) aren't seeing.
In all your hours of watching these live feeds did you see the Australian reporter get shot by rubber bullets? Or the staff and customers of a Mexican restaurant helping a police officer that had been pepper-sprayed?
Let me guess, you saw people holding Mexican flags and from that you concluded this was a "Mexico vs US" fight?
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Re: If true, and your take away is that the US is fighting Mexico for LA....
Jun 11, 2025, 4:51 PM
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Apparently you are the only person in this forum that didn't understand that was a metaphorical statement.
I know it's hard to believe, but in the future we can press a button on our remote and say "Live stream LA riots" and multiple live streams will pop up.
I know, I know probably hard for you to believe.
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Oh, I understand it was hyperbole. But the message behind it was clear
Jun 11, 2025, 5:12 PM
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It spoke to your belief about what these riots are and who are the "good guys" and who are the "bad guys".
But hey, I'm willing to listen to you explain what your metaphor actually means. Maybe I misjudged your entire view of what's going on in LA.
Thank you for explaining to me how you watched your livestreams, but I wasn't really interested in how you watched the livestreams, more about how you came to the conclusions you did when watching them.
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Re: Oh, I understand it was hyperbole. But the message behind it was clear
Jun 11, 2025, 5:18 PM
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It means a bunch of people in crowds holding Mexican flags have been fighting with the police.
The people throwing #### from off bridges onto police cars, destroying property, and lighting #### on fire are the bad guys.
Who do you think are the bad guys?
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CU Medallion [19130]
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So, in all the hours of watching you only saw mexican flags?
Jun 11, 2025, 5:36 PM
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And every person you saw holding a flag was fighting the police?
I think the peaceful protesters are the good guys. The cops, many of whom are trying to keep the peace, are the good guys. Those targeting the peaceful and trying to create chaos are the bad guys, and that's on both sides. Shooting reporters, manhandling protestors, beating protestors are equally "bad guys" as much as those throwing rocks and burning cars.
And yes, those purposefully targeting Home Depots and immigrant communities without cause are purposefully trying to create chaos. Those sending in the National Reserves and Marines are purposefully trying to create chaos, and those throwing rocks, destroying property or burning cars owned by a corporation are creating unnecessary chaos.
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Re: So, in all the hours of watching you only saw mexican flags?
Jun 11, 2025, 5:46 PM
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"So, in all the hours of watching you only saw mexican flags?
And every person you saw holding a flag was fighting the police?"
If I had to guess it was about 95 percent Mexican flags.
No to your second question, and not sure why you even asked it based on what I wrote. Some other "bad guys" are people who have decided to ignore our laws and come into the country illegally, showing a complete lack of respect for the laws passed by legislators that were elected by the citizens of this country.
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"if I had to guess"...lol
Jun 11, 2025, 6:00 PM
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As for the 2nd question, because you said "people holding (Mexican) flags were fighting with the police" which goes to questioning your overall conclusion (and why you used the "metaphor" you did).
And do you think the best practice for bringing these illegal "bad guys" to justice is to stake out Home Depots, barge into schools and deport children who have lived here their entire lives, crash immigration hearings, to not give due process?
Should we retroactively go after "bad guys" like Elon who were at one time illegal or is there something to someone becoming a benefit to society to a degree in which the misdemeanor of being illegal is outweighed?
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Re: "if I had to guess"...lol
Jun 11, 2025, 6:23 PM
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"It means a bunch of people in crowds holding Mexican flags have been fighting with the police."
So not sure why you would use the term 'everyone'. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you were not intentionally trying to misrepresent what I wrote.
Do you have any links regarding children being taken from schools?
Of course I think they should be afforded due process, if (like Obama used at a high rate) they do not qualify for expedited removal, in which case it is not a requirement for them to go through the court.
Elon is a US citizen. Last I checked citizens are not being deported.
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It's not a misrepresentation as much as wondering how you got to your metaphor
Jun 11, 2025, 7:16 PM
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that the "US was fighting Mexico for LA", clearly you're making some sort of statement with that metaphor, and I've yet to hear you explain what you meant by it.
Not directly taken out of schools but ICE has the ability and right to do it and they've taken kids and deported them who have lived their entire lives here and entire communities are scared of sending their kids to schools for fear of ICE doing what they've been doing in LA and other areas of the country.
If I remember correctly, what you're talking about with Obama is summary removal and that only occurs within 100 miles from the border or if the immigrant already had been removed before (loophole they use to not have to go through due process). And even in the cases of expedited removal, there is some due process that should occur to determine if they qualify or to see what the next step should be. It's not a "blanket" policy that can be used to just ship people out without due process.
Elon is a US citizen now, but at one time he was an illegal immigrant, that's why I said "retroactively" in my statement. Should he have been deported when he was illegal or should he pay for the crime he committed back then? Is his story of being illegal and then becoming a productive and legal citizen a common or rare story?
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Re: Clearly going in circles on you 'trying' to explain your metaphor
Jun 11, 2025, 8:08 PM
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"Your link is from the ACLU and is arguing against it because it goes against due process. So, did you post that link to support due process rights of immigrants or to argue against them?"
I'm not going to continue to repeat myself. You can find that answer above. And yes, I can read so I know where the link is from.
'I don't think citizens should be deported' covers citizens being deported based on retroactive legal status. When he was here illegally, he should have had to follow our laws like everyone else.
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Speaking on the Elon issue...
Jun 11, 2025, 8:52 PM
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if that's your opinion, then should we follow the "Elon" principle whereby illegals have a pathway to becoming legal citizens with no retroactive consequences?
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Re: Speaking on the Elon issue...
Jun 11, 2025, 9:07 PM
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Yes I think if you become a citizen, then you are a citizen. If you are here illegally, then don't be surprised if you are sent to your country.
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So there should be an opportunity to become a citizen for illegals.
Jun 11, 2025, 9:13 PM
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We agree.
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Re: So there should be an opportunity to become a citizen for illegals.
Jun 11, 2025, 9:25 PM
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It depends on the individual person. I'm good with that if there's a system for them to be vetted. The main issue with a porous border. I'm also good with setting a max number.
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If the vetting is simply "are you a criminal/gang member? No? welcome"...
Jun 11, 2025, 9:46 PM
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then I would agree. Studies show that immigration (both legal/illegal)is a net benefit for the country so minimizing that benefit would need a pretty strong argument for me to agree with it.
I agree that a strong border is good, but easier said than done.
We also need to fix our legal immigration pathways to make it less arduous for people to become legal. And while we're at it, maybe this administration painting them as "monsters" or "animals" who bring disease and death maybe should stop, too.
After all, we don't want to deport the next "Elon Musk" simply because he/she might be illegal at one time.
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Re: If the vetting is simply "are you a criminal/gang member? No? welcome"...
Jun 11, 2025, 9:52 PM
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I think a little more vetting than that is necessary, for sure.
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Re: yeah, and there's a story of a NY Post reporter getting shot too (rubber bullet)
Jun 11, 2025, 5:48 PM
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I haven't seen what happened to the second reporter, but I'm sure the Aussie's bruise will heal.
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"I'm sure the bruise will heal.".....lol, wow.***
Jun 11, 2025, 6:03 PM
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Re: "I'm sure the bruise will heal.".....lol, wow.***
Jun 11, 2025, 6:29 PM
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That's what she said she had from the event during the interview from above. Do you think the rubber bullet blew her leg off?
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Doesn't matter how much it hurt her....
Jun 11, 2025, 6:32 PM
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They should've never shot her. She was completely innocent, standing there, reporting on the events surrounding her.
That's an abuse of police power to go after someone like that. It would be no different than him walking up and punching her in the face for no reason other than he's a little fascist with a badge.
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Re: Doesn't matter how much it hurt her....
Jun 11, 2025, 6:42 PM
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He should be fired. No, that is not like him coming and punching her in the face.
It appears that LAPD is appropriately investigating their officer.
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Hopefully fired, and also charged with assault or battery....
Jun 11, 2025, 7:05 PM
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whatever the law allows on something like that.
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Re: Hopefully fired, and also charged with assault or battery....
Jun 11, 2025, 7:13 PM
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I agree with that. He intentionally did it.
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Re: Says the guy that thinks we're fighting Mexico in this "battle" for LA, lol***
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I lived in Santa Monica for 9 years. Some neighborhoods are predominantly Hispanic; Paramount is a perfect example. Pretty much every store shop has one in the window, heck, I see them in Florida.. And
And the entire thing started because about 20 ice officers were standing near the street outside of a Home Depot after a raid, with body armor, tear gas, and rubber bullets. They were there for a fight, because the raid had already concluded, and CHP had set up a line near the 5 so the deportation vehicles could pass. Had the ICE officers stayed low-key, they could have been in and out, but that was not their intention.
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Re: Says the guy that thinks we're fighting Mexico in this "battle" for LA, lol***
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Jun 11, 2025, 6:37 AM
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Make all the excuses you want for why people have become violent there. People have to tell themselves whatever they need to justify their thoughts. We've seen it for years now with people who try to make Jan 6 right in their head.
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
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Jun 10, 2025, 10:18 PM
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Jan 6 occurred in literally less than one city block yet the morons claim it's the worst day evvaarrr. So make up your mind about whether the relative size of a riot is important or if it isn't.
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The difference
Jun 10, 2025, 10:20 PM
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Jan. 6 was an attempt to murder our VP and Congress and install a dictatorship, and people like you supported it.
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Re: The difference
Jun 10, 2025, 10:31 PM
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this is still an attempt to install a dictatortship
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Re: The difference
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Calling them “people” is a little generous.
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
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One city block that happened to be the seat of power for the entire US Government…well, in theory…congress abdicated their responsibility years ago.
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
Jun 11, 2025, 1:03 AM
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I live here basically now. Nobody mentions them and they aren't noticable. Almost a non story.
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Remember BLM in NYC?
Jun 11, 2025, 1:19 AM
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I do.
I was outside a pizza joint near Eighth and Broadway when a black-clad group of non-Caucasians marched by, demanding everybody raise a fist and swear 'Black Lives Matter'.
Not one of them had a northern accent.
Remember Occupy Wall Street?
I do.
Riding my bike in downtown Cola, I cruised the Capital grounds unaware of trust fund revolutionaries defecating in shrubs, and upon asking what they were protesting, I got one mealy-mouthed Yankee reply, mumbling "The ####ing One Percent, man."
Only difference in the current crop is they speak Spanglish, not Ebonics.
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It's a block party!! Yay!!***
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
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Honestly dumbfounded reading your post. Whatever respect I had for you is gone. You are ####### delusional man. Stores have been looted, police have been attacked, some protesters have been locked up for attempted murder on a police officer and you are trying to downplay it? You are a joke.
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You may be surprised to learn...
Jun 11, 2025, 10:53 AM
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That I was never looking for the respect of a man who worships Trump, believes Jan. 6 was a government conspiracy, and is triggered by music lyrics.
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Re: You may be surprised to learn...
Jun 11, 2025, 1:25 PM
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I don’t believe J6 was a government conspiracy. I don’t worship Trump. I have no clue what you are referring to about the music lyrics. Unless you’re talking about me being critical of the rap culture glorifying murder, selling drugs, and degrading women. That doesn’t trigger me it’s just an objective fact.
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Turns out the Dems were playing 4D chess.
Jun 11, 2025, 6:49 AM
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People turning out all over the country to support illegal immigrants.
So by my count liberal causes include abortion, Gaza, LGBTQ+, illegal immigrants, BLM, and the environment.
And we’re civil warring for this? WTG Soros.
Come, Lord Jesus.
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
Jun 11, 2025, 8:50 AM
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cattahoowie says let the fires get bigger first
then respond
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Here's how I'd summarize the current situation....
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1) Trump's administration has a pattern of denying people their rights in their supposed enforcement of our immigration laws.
2) Trump's ICE folks raid Home Depot in LA.
3) Protests break out. Some violence occurs.
4) Trump now has the pretense for what he's always wanted, which is to turn the military loose on Americans. Never mind that the State didn't ask for Trump's "help". Never mind that it's a huge over-reaction. It's what he's always wanted, as we inch closer to martial law. LA provided the stage-prop that Trump wanted all along.
5) So, here we are.
Any violence of any sort plays into Trump's hands. There will be protests all over the country on Saturday. I hope people keep it peaceful, and don't give him any excuses to turn his goons loose on Americans.
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Re: Here's how I'd summarize the current situation....
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Who are the goons? Local police? National Guardsmen? U.S. military? ICE?
It would seem that if one protests peacefully there is little to fear. If one chooses violence then “goons” stop it?
If you’re so worried about an impending dictatorship, what are you personally doing to prepare to resist.
I would suggest you acquire some serious firearms if you haven’t already, obtain lots of ammo and be prepared to die to overthrow dictator Trump.
I’m ready, but not worried about having to resist Trump, but on the off chance that Trump becomes a dictator and doesn’t leave Jan 2029, I hope you’re ready to join with most of us who will not tolerate a dictatorship without a fight.
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Re: Here's how I'd summarize the current situation....
Jun 11, 2025, 10:25 AM
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Honestly seens like there's little to fear even if you dont protest peacefully. Only a teeny tiny percentage of the rioters and looters have been arrested and, odds are, those folks will be released and have their charges dropped once things settle down, as is the norm in blue areas. Only exception would be if any of them are arrested and brought up on federal charges, then perhaps a few will ever actually serve any time.
And it's the left that desperately wants a bunch of dead protesters, not Trump. They think that would equate to another 2020 situation where they could burn down cities nationwide and then sweep subsequent elections. Since they are the ones actually doing and encouraging the rioting it makes much more sense they are attempting to provoke an overreaction than it does Trump is sitting around just waiting on a pretense to gun down left wing weirdos. Not that rational, logic driven thought has any place to the cult members on the left these days.
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Re: Here's how I'd summarize the current situation....
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Good examples of "goons" are people that arrested Ozturk because of an op-ed that MAGA didn't like, or the people that paraded in front of cameras the hundreds of immigrants that were sent to a prison in El Salvador that had never been convicted or even charged with a crime. Goons are also the type of "law" that would fire a rubber bullet at an Australian news reporter for no reason, other than she's standing 20 feet away from them.
I am pro-military, pro-police, and anti-violence. But if they are enlisted by MAGA as part of a destruction our rights as Americans (citizens and non-citizens), they are not on the side of the American people anymore.
I hope you're right that resisting Trump isn't something to be worried about. He already tried to overthrow a lawful and fair election in 2020/2021. Anyone who looks at that and isn't concerned about what might happen over the next few years either is delusion or not paying attention.
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Re: Here's how I'd summarize the current situation....
Jun 11, 2025, 1:30 PM
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Uh, what? Many of those that were sent to El Salvador had extensive criminal records
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Wrong.
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Trump said he will not allow protests. "For those people that want to protest, they're going to be met with very big force.” This is dictator level stuff. He is threatening violence against people exercising their right to protest.
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Re: Everyone knows the "LA Riots" are happening...
Jun 11, 2025, 10:34 AM
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Here's what Fetterman thinks, and he's right.
"This is anarchy and true chaos. My party loses the moral high ground when we refuse to condemn setting cars on fire, destroying buildings, and assaulting law enforcement."
Go ahead, commies, and trivialize all this chit. Let's hear more about how the protests are mostly peaceful. All it does is solidify how effing crazy the large majority of rationale believe you are.
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I thought you said Fetterman was crazy and shouldn't be in office?***
Jun 11, 2025, 10:56 AM
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