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Playmaker [355]
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Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:47 AM
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Without Dabo. Never seen such a blatant bunch of spoiled ##### ### fans and donkeys we have now. Hatfield days? low iq cooters. College football has been corrupted just like this country.
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Orange Blooded [2279]
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how original
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:48 AM
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glad you're happy with how everything's gone the past 3-4 years
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: how original
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Nov 3, 2024, 4:03 AM
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Blah blah blah👈your hot take
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National Champion [7967]
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: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:50 AM
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without Brent Venables !
literally his pre his arrival and post departure are identical
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Associate AD [1066]
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Re: : Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:53 AM
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Game set match OP.
Lol Nike… don’t throw facts in the way of the Dabo lovers.
Dabo owes his national championships and playoff appearances to 3 people… BV/DW/TLaw
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Starter [266]
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Re: : Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:59 AM
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Venerables and Scott were the key to Clemson's success, take a close look at the Defense and Receiver production after they departed. Venerables also took team intensity and toughness with him too.
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Tiger Spirit [9902]
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Game Day Hero [4344]
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Re: : Never would have had a dynasty
Nov 4, 2024, 1:22 PM
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Game set match OP.
Lol Nike… don’t throw facts in the way of the Dabo lovers.
Dabo owes his national championships and playoff appearances to 3 people… BV/DW/TLaw
I would like to give credit to coaches Brooks, Hobby, Scott, and Reed. Coordinators are important but so is talent evaluation/recruiting/development.
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Re: : Never would have had a dynasty
Nov 3, 2024, 6:23 AM
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@nike you right I've been saying that ever since he left. Reminds me of a Kevin Steele coached defense right now. Dabo needs to do a better job of hiring coordinators. Wes Goodwin and Garrett Riley are both not any good.
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Legend [7009]
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Re: : Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 4, 2024, 12:47 PM
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Starting to look that way!
I would also lets add that CDS does still get credit for hiring him. You (not you personally NIKE) cant have one without the other, the two are inextricably linked.
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Commissioner [1218]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:53 AM
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Never would have had a dynasty without dabo.... and Venables, and Scott, and Elliot, and DW4, and TL16, and Wilkins, and ...I think that I have made my point. How many of those guys are still where they were during dynasty years now after the drop-off?
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Playmaker [355]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
Nov 4, 2024, 12:41 PM
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Never would have had a dynasty without dabo.... and Venables, and Scott, and Elliot, and DW4, and TL16, and Wilkins, and ...I think that I have made my point. How many of those guys are still where they were during dynasty years now after the drop-off?
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Playmaker [355]
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Playmaker [388]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:04 AM
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Glad to see someone think like myself,I also was there for the Hatfield days,west days,underperformed living off his dad name bowden days,we are blessed with what we have but people have short term memories i guess
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Ring of Honor [21191]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 2:06 AM
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CLEMSON made dabo, dabo didn't make CLEMSON. Just like so many on this board.
GO TIGERS!!!
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All-In [10143]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 2:09 AM
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Never would have had my two boys without my first wife but I’m glad she’s out of my life
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Ring of Honor [21191]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 2:14 AM
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😅🤣
GO TIGERS!!!
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Orange Blooded [2421]
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Gridiron Giant [15561]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 4:08 AM
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Kathleen is this you up posting this early in the morning? Go back to bed hon.
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Solid Orange [1389]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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You know, that might be true.
Dabo has always been a terrible gameday coach, but he was a very good recruiter. He was able to sell recruits and their parents on Clemson being a loyal community and tight-knit place, where they knew they wouldn't be just a number. That idea worked to convince a number of recruits who formed this dynasty, people like Trevor, ETN, and the Power Rangers. And once we began having success, we were able to sell recruits on being able to compete for titles every year as well. He also was more humble, and willing to admit his mistakes and fix them, such as the mistake of hiring Steele and his hiring Venables. So I agree that Dabo should be appreciated for Clemson's great success from 2013 (I'm counting the big wins over Ohio State and Oklahoma) to 2020.
But here's where your post falls flat. That success does not support us paying him $11 million a year TODAY. We have have very little success in 5 years. Since Trevor left, we've averaged an end of season ranking of around 17. Since 2020, we are in 3-9 in games against teams in the top 15, and our average score has been 21-34, not even competitive. So in the last 5 years, we have not been a top 15 team, and yet we've paid Dabo the second or third highest salary of all college coaches.
Everyone says you should give a new coach 4-5 years to establish their team. But Clemson is significantly worse of a team than it was 5 years ago. I don't see the opportunity for Clemson to return to elite status with Dabo. Our recruiting has dropped off dramatically. From 2015-2020, our average rating per recruit was the third highest in the country. In the last 4 recruiting classes, our average rating per recruit has been #13. This newest class is the worst yet, with us at #28 overall and #17 in average rating per recruit, losing our only 5 stars and a QB we went all-in on. And Dabo's position on the portal and NIL has made us toxic to elite players.
Do you support paying someone $11 million in perpetuity as a lifetime achievement award?
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Ultimate Tiger [35476]
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Re: Never would have had a dynasty
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Nov 3, 2024, 6:47 AM
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Shame on you for posting facts. The cult is not going to be happy reading that.
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Hall of Famer [9027]
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Stupid post. Coot.***
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Oculus Spirit [42083]
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LOL.
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Nov 4, 2024, 1:13 PM
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Saban had a dynasty. Kirby may have a dynasty. Dabo never had a dynasty.
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Rival Killer [2649]
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Re: LOL.
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Nov 4, 2024, 1:23 PM
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Fact check…no doubt on Saban having a dynasty, but Kirby has two NC, Dabo has two NC!
Do the math bro.
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Oculus Spirit [42083]
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Maybe the italics hid the word "may" for you.
Nov 4, 2024, 1:27 PM
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Kirby is still keeping Georgia in national championship contention. Dabo has not for some time with Clemson. Thus, Kirby may (using italics again, so beware with your computer system) have a dynasty. Dabo does not.
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