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Gridiron Giant [15498]
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Democrats use of Twitter.
Dec 11, 2022, 3:51 PM
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Sorry to spoil a good propaganda campaign with actual facts...but:
"Twitter in 2020 granted requests from both President Donald Trump's White House and candidate Joe Biden's campaign to remove content, according to a thread published Friday by independent journalist Matt Taibbi."
"The long Twitter thread, dubbed "The Twitter Files," was hyped up by Elon Musk, the social media platform's billionaire owner and self-styled "free speech absolutist." The thread primarily included internal communications and other details about Twitter's controversial decision to suppress a New York Post report concerning the laptop of Biden's son Hunter in October 2020.
But Taibbi also touched on other content moderation actions, writing that by 2020 it was "routine" for Twitter to receive requests to remove content from third-party actors.
"Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored," he said, adding that "celebrities and unknowns alike could be removed or reviewed at the behest of a political party."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-granted-requests-both-trump-031657595.html
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Campus Hero [13435]
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Social media needs to go the way of smoking
Dec 11, 2022, 4:22 PM
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We all know it’s bad for us, we should just quit.
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Paw Master [17182]
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Post a story that trump had removed from Twitter.
Dec 11, 2022, 4:37 PM
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Just curious.
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Paw Master [16224]
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Re: Democrats use of Twitter.
Dec 11, 2022, 4:58 PM
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The facts are that the Twitter gods particularly chose conservatives to censor, deemphasize and Twitter put its thumb on the scales to influence the 2020 election.
I do not recall Hunter Biden nor even Joe Biden categorically denying that the laptop was Hunter’s.
Why then suppress the NY Post and why not look into the matter? It’s simple they wanted Trump gone and didn’t want anything damaging to Biden to be revealed.
While Twitter may have honored requests from Trump and others, it’s dishonest to pretend that Twitter was even close to even handed when despots from around the world and anti - Semites like Louis Farrakhan were free to express themselves while Trump was banned.
Jack Dorsey, Jim Baker and other executives at Twitter will most likely have some explaining to do before Congress when it appears they indeed did do things that Dorsey previously denied.
There is precious little media coverage of the Twitter Files. I look forward to more sunshine on how Twitter operated. Then we can discuss facts.
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TigerNet Elite [73592]
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Let's ee if pubs have the nads to charge dorsey
Dec 11, 2022, 5:05 PM
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With perjury.
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Ring of Honor [21656]
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Re: Democrats use of Twitter.
Dec 12, 2022, 9:45 AM
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Contrariwise, those platforms were part and parcel of the smear-job October Surprise the same cast of characters - Rudy, Steve Bannon, Trump, Fox News (and News Corp), plus Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and the Russian FSB played in hacking the DNC's servers and smearing Hillary all over the Internetz two weeks before the 2016 election. Those platforms got used, and they absolutely were complicit in necro'ing what were largely old issues around Hillary, and allowing that to be the narrative leading up to election day. Twitter knew full well (though after the fact, it was a new phenomena at the time in American politics) that they'd been played, and how, and that Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 without their platform massively amplifying that highly artificial narrative.
The MAGA's and Faux News are just p!ssed Twitter declined to participate in 2020. But why should they have?
Do you really think Twitter had some kind of obligation to let the same pack of bad actors - and these were some of the worst actors in American political history, which is saying a lot - pull the same sh!t in 2020? It was their platform, they legally could do what they wanted with it...just as Elon is doing what he wants with it now. Dragging Jack Dorsey into Congress to let Freedom Caucus derps ventilate for the benefit of Faux News isn't going to change that, it's just performative bullsh!t, which is all those nincompoops are capable of. It plays with the base, I guess. Yay. And Jack Dorsey and the others who got close to double actual market value for Twitter will walk right on out of Congress whistling, because they just made billions on one of the most lopsided (and most likely ill-conceived) deals in American business history, and they know they didn't break any laws, and without the presidency and 60 votes in the Senate - which the GOP is never likely to have - there's not jack that MTG or Boebert or Matt Gaetz can actually do...to Jack.
And just for sh!ts and giggles, some of those thousands of Twitter employees who either quit or got fired when Elon went corporate raider on them will probably start a new Twitter, that tastes just like the old Twitter, and leave Elon owning Myspace Redux. Elon doesn't own his user base, he's just renting their attention, and what those users wanted was what old Twitter was. Thinking he can change that is like replacing Coke Classic with old Tab (I dunno if you remember, but it was disgusting) and thinking people will just keep drinking it because it's got the Coke label on it now.
You know how I know that? Because nobody uses Gettr, Rumble, Gab, or Truth Social. Because the neo-Nazis, trolls, and psychos are allowed to run rampant there and it's dark and scary on those platforms.
So this is a non-argument, and one conservatives are never going to win. Trying to somehow force Twitter to become one of those platforms is an impossibility as long as cyberspace is infinite and users can go where they wanna, and "right to post" is a pipedream and in the real world unachievable in a practical sense as long as there are psychos, disinformers, trolls, and bad actors in this world. So there will always be terms of service.
As usual, The Atlantic has probably the most definitive take on this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/legal-right-to-post-free-speech-social-media/672406/
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Synopsis: TRUTH HURTS.***
Dec 12, 2022, 1:12 PM
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Gridiron Giant [15498]
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Re: Democrats use of Twitter.
Dec 12, 2022, 5:46 PM
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Contrariwise, those platforms were part and parcel of the smear-job October Surprise the same cast of characters - Rudy, Steve Bannon, Trump, Fox News (and News Corp), plus Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and the Russian FSB played in hacking the DNC's servers and smearing Hillary all over the Internetz two weeks before the 2016 election. Those platforms got used, and they absolutely were complicit in necro'ing what were largely old issues around Hillary, and allowing that to be the narrative leading up to ... Stop it quozzel, you're being to factual, and fairminded while using logic'n shiit. That doesn't play well among the dedicated Magas.
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Gridiron Giant [15498]
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Re: Democrats use of Twitter.
Dec 12, 2022, 5:35 PM
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The facts are that the Twitter gods particularly chose conservatives to censor, deemphasize and Twitter put its thumb on the scales to influence the 2020 election.
I do not recall Hunter Biden nor even Joe Biden categorically denying that the laptop was Hunter’s.
Why then suppress the NY Post and why not look into the matter? It’s simple they wanted Trump gone and didn’t want anything damaging to Biden to be revealed.
While Twitter may have honored requests from Trump and others, it’s dishonest to pretend that Twitter was even close to even handed when despots from around the world and anti - Semites like Louis Farrakhan were free to express themselves while Trump was banned.
Jack Dorsey, Jim Baker and other executives at Twitter will most likely have some explaining to do before Congress when it appears they indeed did do things that Dorsey previously denied.
There is precious little media coverage of the Twitter Files. I look forward to more sunshine on how Twitter operated. Then we can discuss facts.
I think you're right, I think it's clear that Twitter is left-leaning. But, they didn't put their thumb on the scale any more than FoxNews put their thumb on the scale to influence an election. The same can be said for MSNBC or the NYTimes. All are private companies and can post or not post anything they like. But this story became a story not because Twitter did something that Fox doesn't do but rather the Republicans have made it out to be something extraordinary simply as a means to go after Biden.
Our country has a long history of conservative outlets and liberal outlets. For every CNN you have a Fox News or NewsMax...etc, etc, etc.
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You seem triggered.***
Dec 11, 2022, 5:14 PM
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Re: I think this is a good follow-up piece...
Dec 11, 2022, 8:08 PM
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You can read that echo chamber ######## if you want. The fact is everyone of significance at Twitter was indeed a leftist, and they were indeed banning & shadow banning conservatives. Period.
Felix2® did you take your kids and grandkids to a drag show yet?
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CU Medallion [18985]
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lol, I didn't think you guys would read it.***
Dec 11, 2022, 8:09 PM
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Paw Master [17182]
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Re: lol, I didn't think you guys would read it.***
Dec 11, 2022, 9:42 PM
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I read it. I still have seen zero examples of the Trump administration getting Twitter to suppress stories, or have people removed from Twitter; as the OP has suggested.
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CU Medallion [18985]
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Since Taibbi is the one saying it, search his thread for it.***
Dec 11, 2022, 10:32 PM
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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When you blatantly lie about your bias but then it becomes
Dec 11, 2022, 10:19 PM
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openly exposed, those exposing it are equally biased for doing so?
That's the most illogical attempt at moral parity that I've ever heard, but it's an obvious work of desperation.
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Gridiron Giant [15526]
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Re: When you blatantly lie about your bias but then it becomes
Dec 12, 2022, 6:14 AM
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^^this.
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