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Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 10:58 AM
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I missed this the other night. Missouri is still ranked somehow? That has to be the most egregious overhype in the entire top 25.
They have 1 win over an FBS team with a winning record - Vanderbilt. In double overtime, at home. They only have 4 FBS wins in total.
There are 3 ranked teams on their schedule:
@ Texas A&M: Lost by 31 @ Alabama: Lost by 34 @ South Carolina: Lost by 4
Their average margin of victory in their 4 FBS wins is 5 points.
What in that resume gives any indication that they are top 25?
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
Nov 21, 2024, 10:59 AM
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$EC Bias
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:42 PM
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sec bias and so they can use their rankings to boost the teams they lost to in their rankings, its definitely bias..
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Laying the foundation to justify a 3-loss SEC team in the CFP
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:15 AM
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It's hard work but someone has to do it.
Message was edited by: clemchem®
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^^^^THIS^^^^***
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:03 PM
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So they were ranked 23 in week 12, lost, and were still ranked 23 in week 13
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:29 AM
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I wonder if that has ever happened before in the CFP poll; a team loses and didn’t even drop one spot in the poll.
Someone alert Tim Bourret
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Re: So they were ranked 23 in week 12, lost, and were still ranked 23 in week 13
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:31 AM
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And we dropped 2 spots during a bye week. With no serious underdog upsets behind them. Go figure
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:32 AM
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Missouri is only ranked to help Bama's SOS. If Bama loses to TX in the SECCG, the fraudulent committee will try to convince us that Bama is still worthy of a playoff spot. They are the only team that would get in with 3 losses. Bama will always get hooked up.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:58 AM
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Good try butt sniffer!!
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
Nov 21, 2024, 12:09 PM
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We try to be...AIYE
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:33 AM
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Does it matter? Are they going to be a playoff team?
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:36 AM
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Yes, it matters. It brings into question the criteria the committee is using. It also falsely gives an additional data point (top 25 win) to the teams that beat them, elevating resumes of contenders.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:39 AM
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True. On the other hand, anyone who doesn't make the top 12 shouldn't complain. There is plenty of room this year.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:42 AM
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Right, but if the committee is deciding who is #12 between 2 teams, and one of those teams has a "top 25 win vs Missouri", it's going to give them an undeserved bump in the discussion.
That's the knock on preseason rankings and the lower half of the top 25 in general...you start in a perceived position, you immediately improve the perception of the schedule for anybody you play. But you didn't earn that starting point...someone just put you there.
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3 words: S E C
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:35 AM
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That explains it.
Clemson needs to get out of ACC ASAP and PDQ.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 11:40 AM
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Strangest thing about that is that they LOST to SC and did not move in the poll!!
I'm more upset about Texas, Alabama and Tennessee
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Texas, Texas A&M, Tennessee and Penn State.
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:10 PM
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Check the schedules and see who they have beaten that will be ranked at season's end.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:24 PM
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The committee is playing the “they beat Vandy so they beat everyone that Vandy beat mentality “.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:30 PM
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Last I looked Colorado has 2 wins over teams thatvare .500 or better. Last I saw one team with winning record and only played 1 team that was ranked. They are over-ranked all day and definitely with 2 losses should definitely not be ranked ahead of us. That is the Sanders effect!
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:36 PM
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We only have 1 win over a team above .500. We only played 1 ranked team. We also have 2 losses.
Be careful with your resume reviews...
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:57 PM
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Well VT, UVA, NCST are all .500 but had winning records when we played them and Pitt is 7-3. NCSt, Pitt, FSU, UGA, Louisville have all been ranked at some point this season. I think Colorado has played 2 teams that were ranked at some point, Nebraska and Kansas St.
But I understand your point.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 12:59 PM
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It doesn't matter one bit if a team was ranked at one time, or had a winning record at one time. What matters is who they really are - how good they really are - and you know that answer more and more as the year goes on.
Nobody is getting kudos for beating FSU because they were once ranked in the top 10. We know who they are now.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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Nov 21, 2024, 1:32 PM
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This all day. GTech can't claim they beat a top 10 team in FSU.
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Re: Biggest CFP Ranking Fraud
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The whole point is I still do not believe Colorado should be above Clemson.
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