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Orange Blooded [2485]
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So many people seem determined to ruin
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the sport I grew up with and love(d).
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Re: So many people seem determined to ruin
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I hope Portnoy does this. He will be so transparent about it that people who are not paying attention will start. Something like this will speed up getting some new rules that govern big time college football as it is now a largely ungoverned professional sport.
It is not going back to an amateur endeavor again but all other big time professional sports have free agency rules.
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Game Changer [1775]
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A lot would disagree with you. I certainly do.***
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Legend [6629]
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Ubiquitous sports gambling is leading to increased viewership
Sep 26, 2024, 4:18 PM
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but most fans that I routinely speak to hate the current trend in CFB.
That is anecdotal, but I have never talked to anyone that loves the portal and NIL the way that it currently is.
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Re: So many people seem determined to ruin
Sep 26, 2024, 11:09 AM
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At times, college footbal is disgusting to me because of the buying of players. It was the sport that I loved since I was 4 years old. Very sad.
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Orange Elite [5451]
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Re: Barstool Sports will buy Michigan's QB every year from now on. ($3 million)
Sep 26, 2024, 9:08 AM
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Free Market.
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Barstool Sports will buy Michigan's QB every year from now on. ($3 million)
Sep 26, 2024, 9:27 AM
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lol, "free market"
good one 👍
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101591]
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I keep coming back to this....
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what is his ROI on these payments? Is this sustainable? Or is he just throwing money away hoping Michigan will compete for the national championship every year? And then he can go brag to his friends?
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Clemson Icon [24243]
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He has hundreds of millions, so he does this for pleasure.
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Sep 26, 2024, 9:17 AM
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Lots of very rich people use college football as a mech suit for their ego. This is why a totally unregulated sport just devolves into bragging rights battles between billionaires. NFL has been saved from this.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101591]
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I suppose he can do that if it's HIS money, and he's not accountable to
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Sep 26, 2024, 9:18 AM
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stockholders
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Re: I suppose he can do that if it's HIS money, and he's not accountable to
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Portnoy doesn’t answer to a board. He sold the company and bought it back for a song. He brokered a deal for Penn to run ESPN Bet which was a $2 bil deal. He never had to go public. He’s generationally rich, now.
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He bought it back for $1 this year.***
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CU Medallion [20102]
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Re: He bought it back for $1 this year.***
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Yes, it was made clear. Smart guy.
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Re: He bought it back for $1 this year.***
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Associate AD [1045]
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Its been done on smaller scale
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Sep 26, 2024, 10:08 AM
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for bragging rights for a long time. It will be interesting to see how long these big donors will maintain their loyalty/support when the sport changes so much it loses its luster. I just don’t see it being sustainable long term.
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Orange Phenom [14617]
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Isn't that what boosters have been trying to do for decades?
Sep 26, 2024, 11:41 AM
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There are plenty of wealthy individuals willing to spend millions per year in the hopes of improving their favorite football team.
I would venture to say that the vast majority of NIL money being spent right now is just boosters buying players and not actual marketing investments where a company is hoping to benefit from the exposure.
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Re: I keep coming back to this....
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Rich people aren't looking for a return on investment to universities.
Is anyone looking for an ROI on their IPTAY donation?
and it's better than a general donation because it makes them feel like they are directly contributing and maybe part of the decision making process.
A lot of rich people like to feel like they have power.
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Orange Phenom [14489]
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So why would anyone school, or fan of any school, continue to do business
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With barstool? If an entity is actively at odds with the goals of my organization then I'd avoid anything that benefits that entity. There is no shortage of places on the internet and social media to promote your school you don't need barstool.
Same thing for Nike and Oregon; F em.
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Solid Orange [1391]
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Because the Nike founder uses his money to help fund Oregon athletics and
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Sep 26, 2024, 9:57 AM
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academics you no longer want Clemson to do business with Nike the company? That seems really petty and self defeating.
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Orange Phenom [14489]
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Phil Knight doesn't just use his own money they bring to bear every corporate
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Resource in Nikes arsenal to benefit Oregon including:
Sponsorship payments
Marketing resources
Exclusive apparel items(design their own shoes)
Internships
Future job offers...
Knight isn't using his own personal assets he's leveraging the resources of a publicly traded company to benefit his hobby. We shouldn't help that company prosper.
That's not petty it's common sense. We have deals with Founders bank; if it was discovered that 1 cent of every dollar they made went to support cack athletics don't you think we'd seek to terminate that agreement?
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Orange Blooded [2537]
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Re: Phil Knight doesn't just use his own money they bring to bear every corporate
Sep 26, 2024, 10:44 AM
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Well their baseball park is named Founders Park.
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Solid Orange [1391]
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Solid Orange [1391]
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In cash and equipment, Oregon gets $8.8m/yr and UNC gets $6.2m/yr from
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Jordan Brand (nike). So it seems to be in line with market rate, give or take nuances.
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Orange Phenom [14489]
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Cool how many tarhole players have their own shoes like priority OU recruits***
Sep 26, 2024, 11:28 AM
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Solid Orange [1391]
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Clemson continually searches on how to use people with domain
Sep 26, 2024, 11:05 AM
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expertise to help their student athletes in NIL and internships and such. This is no different, and nothing in that article says Nike as a corporation is doing something underhanded that is skirting governance rules. People in retirement can do whatever they want to do, Nike didnt direct hem to do this on Nike's behalf..
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That's bogus and out of touch.***
Sep 26, 2024, 11:07 AM
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Solid Orange [1391]
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Ok, thanks.***
Sep 26, 2024, 11:15 AM
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Orange Phenom [14489]
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I can't decide if you're intentionally being obtuse as an arguing technique or
Sep 26, 2024, 11:33 AM
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If you're really that naive. At any rate this isn't a fruitful discussion as you're only gonna see what you wanna see.
Don't take my word for it, obviously, do your own research. there are dozens of legitimate articles detailing how Nike uses the brand and corporate might to specifically benefit Oregon.
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Re: Barstool Sports will buy Michigan's QB every year from now on. ($3 million)
Sep 26, 2024, 9:32 AM
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Let the Michigans, Georgias and Oregons play in their own league with graft and poaching. The other 95% can play with no NIL and open cheating. Just tell perspective athletes no NIL if you come here. Just like the service academies.
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Clemson will be in with the big boys.pride wont let it be any different.***
Sep 26, 2024, 9:58 AM
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Varsity [104]
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Yet, your job bought you for much less...
Sep 26, 2024, 11:04 AM
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Right?
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Clemson Icon [24158]
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I've seen a few people on here say they would do the same
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if they won the lottery or somehow became a billionaire.
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Re: Barstool Sports will buy Michigan's QB every year from now on. ($3 million)
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How does Jadyn Davis feel about choosing Michigan over Clemson now that they are wanting to just poach upperclassmen QBs from other schools every year now?
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