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Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?
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Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 1:22 PM

What are some of you guys thoughts on the conference as a whole?

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 1:46 PM

I think of the ACC as more of a hole than a whole.

Either we do what we are supposed to do, don't slip or fall, and remain above it looking down on everybody else, or we fall down with the rest of the crowd and have a hard time reaching the heights that we are capable of reaching from where we currently sit.

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Hard to say...we look good, FSU has to improve, & a Coastal


Aug 21, 2019, 2:01 PM

team that didn't get to the ACC Championship embarrassed the hell out of our in-state "rival"

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I pull for the ACC to win every OOC game


Aug 21, 2019, 2:03 PM

Especially against the SEC. It helps our SOS, and overall resume. But, every year, I am disappointed. I suspect that we will whiff in week one competition against the SEC. MIAMI (UF), UNC (U5C), Duke (Bammer) will probably all lose. And, I wouldn't be surprised if we drop a game or two against BSU (FSU), USU (WF), or ECU (NCSU).

I don't think it's an under-estimation. I think it's right on par with every year we start off. We finished well last year in bowl season. So, that was nice. I would LOVE to see us sweep the SEC in week one! It would turn the polls upside down. And, I would tune in to Finebaum for at least a week... maybe even listen to ESPN Upstate (SEC Homers) on the radio instead of the ROAR (Clemson Homers).

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 2:07 PM

I think the conference is going to be way down this year just like last year. There are a handful of new coaches that have to implement their systems and bring in recruits that fit the scheme. GT might be worst time in power 5 this upcoming season, Louisville not far behind them.

I don't think our schedule provides any opportunity for a mid season slip up, I think we have to go undefeated to make playoffs. Syracuse is probably the second best team in the ACC this upcoming season and I think they are grossly overrated considering all the pieces they lost.

ACC needs Miami, FSU, VaTech, and Louisville need to figure their crap out.

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 5:55 PM

GT might be the worst but Louisville is behind them?

Syracuse lost a bit, but I wouldn't say they lost enough to be grossly overrated.

FSU will figure it out, if Taggert doesn't I don't see them waiting around.

In 2016 we had some good wins, but also a bad loss, and still made the playoffs. The thing is, other teams lose too. 2017 also shows that as well.

We've built some equity to where we could afford a slip up. That being said, the slip needs to be a slip, nothing like the face plants Ohio State has had the past few years.

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I think it will be slightly better overall, but i don't


Aug 21, 2019, 2:40 PM

think we will see the perception of the league change much because i still don't any legit 10 win teams in the league outside of Clemson and if there is one it's probably Virginia who, like Cuse last year, won't move the needle. The name programs like FSU, Miami, and VT could all improve by a couple of wins and still finish in that 8-5 / 9-4 range. I think that would be good for the conference, but the ACC still won't get much credit until at least one of those programs is winning 10+ games again.

Should be better

Virginia - Bronco is a great coach and Bryce Perkins is likely the 2nd best QB in the league. They were probably the best team in the coastal last year but choked away the division down the stretch.

FSU - It's tough for them to be worse than 5-7. They return a lot of production from last year and they sold their soul for Kendal Briles. OL is still an issue though.

Louisville - This team flat out quit last year. The roster isn't great, but it's not 2-10 bad and some buy in for new coach Scott Satterfield should go pretty far.

UNC - Probably won't be much better, but improving on 2-9 isn't difficult.

Miami - Their offense completely cratered last year. I don't know if they will be much better in 2019, but i think we will see improvement over 7-6.

VT - I probably feel less confident about this one than any of the others just because of all of the weird reports coming out of VT. The recent thing about the group of players threatening team mates in an effort to throw the Marshall game because they didn't want to have to play in a bowl game is just bizarre. I think they improve though just because the defense was so young and so beat up last year and it just didn't perform at a level anywhere close to what you expect from Bud Foster. I think they will be quite a bit better on that side of the ball this year.

Wake Forest - Replacing Dortch won't be easy, but I'm a Clawson fan and they should be much healthier at QB this year. I'm not expecting a big improvement, they may actually finish with around the same record, but i do think they will be a little better than last year.


About the same


Clemson - Nowhere to go but down - or just #1 again.

BC - They lose a lot from last year, but you can pretty much pencil Adazzio in for 7 wins every year

Cuse - I think they might be slightly worse than last year, but their schedule is sooo soft.

Pitt - won't be 6-2 in the conference again, but should be around .500 overall again this year)

Will likely regress

GT - Totally new system and a depleted roster. Won 7 games last year - might win half that many this year.

NC State - They aren't just replacing Finley, they lose a ton on both sides of the ball and i don't think they recruit well enough to reload. They do a pretty good job of developing guys under Doeren, but i think this is a 7-8 win team in 2019 down from 9 a year ago.

Duke - They are towards the bottom in returning production. Daniel Jones was probably overrated, but they still have to replace a pretty decent QB and that's not always easy at a program like Duke. I think we will see a pretty big gap this year between the bottom of the coastal (GT, UNC, Duke) and the others.

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Re: I think it will be slightly better overall, but i don't


Aug 21, 2019, 3:22 PM

I agree with this team by team assessment 100%.

The ACC as a whole will be better this year. I think there will be a couple of story lines that will get attention.
- FSU will be better this year. They won't be great, but they will be back to being competitive. The game with Clemson will get people's attention to see how far back they have come. We'll still win but folks will tune in. I am betting the Syracuse v FSU game determines #2 in the Atlantic.
- The Coastal will be exciting. Virginia will roll through the division but....VT will to. VT's schedule is softer than an SEC Ego. I won't be surprised if those two both have 10 wins when they play in Blacksburg in November. I think Virginia gets over the hump this year and wins the division.
- A UVA v Clemson ACC Championship game will be competitive. Clemson will out talent UVA, but I don't see this as a blowout ala Pitt. It'll be a respectful game.

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Re: I think it will be slightly better overall, but i don't


Aug 21, 2019, 3:55 PM

Something is bad wrong at VT. They had 18 guys in the transfer portal this past year and that's insane.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Season/2019-Football/TransferPortal/

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Yeah and the concerning thing is that this is year 4 under


Aug 22, 2019, 9:46 AM

Fuente so it's not like he's just getting rid of all of the bad apples that Beamer let in as he got old and really started slipping. Most of that should've been done 2-3 years ago.

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 2:46 PM

The ACC has a winning record head to head the last 5 years vs. the SEC and the record the last 10 years only slightly favors the SEC.

The ACC on the field has been holding its on for a while.

It’s easy to look at the preseason rankings and all those SEC teams and think there is a huge gap.

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Aug 21, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 3:02 PM [ in reply to Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year? ]

I get why people keep saying that stat "acc has winning head to head over SEC over last 5 years" but it is a bogus stat and doesn't paint a true picture. Back out Clemson vs SEC and Bama vs ACC. Look how the rest of the conference performed.

The ACC's record vs other power 5 conferences I think is the lowest among power 5 (yes - behind Pac12).

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 3:18 PM

It is the record of the games when the two conferences have actually played on the field. How is it a bogus stat?

The SEC is better off the field when it comes to all these rankings and metrics but on the field it’s been pretty close.

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Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year?


Aug 21, 2019, 3:48 PM

Because we are comparing the two conferences as a whole - including Bama and Clemson's results (including 5 wins vs SCAR) skews the performance of the rest of the league. Clemson and Bama are head and shoulders above the rest of their respective league- including Clemson's 5 wins over Scar doesn't mean anything in the big picture just like including Alabama's wins over FSU, Louisville, and soon duke wouldn't provide any clarity.

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Yeah but nobody really cares about the last 4 years or


Aug 21, 2019, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Re: Are you under-estimating the ACC this year? ]

especially the last 9 years when evaluating the ACC in 2019. The CFP selection committee certainly isn't going to reference the ACCs really strong 2016 season when debating where to rank Clemson. The thing that is relevant in 2019 is that the ACC was really bad last year and needs to improve pretty substantially to be respectable in 2019. And 3 of the 4 SEC/ACC rivalry series are currently swinging pretty heavily towards the SEC. Georgia has dominated GT for the past 15+ years, but you also now have Florida gaining the upper hand on FSU and Kentucky taking advantage of the disaster at Louisville.

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I'll decide at the end of the season.***


Aug 21, 2019, 3:23 PM



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