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Another tough basketball loss last night
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I know there are concerns about the basketball product our football program is paying for, especially given the importance of money in the new football landscape we find ourselves in. But hopefully we get basketball turned around and make a run in the ACC. Nothing would make me happier than being ACC champs in both sports. I trust our basketball coaches and think we can make it happen.
Itās times like this Iām thankful Iām not an AD.
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Wouldn't it be great if baseball and softball follow suit?***
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:17 AM
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It would be the best.***
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:18 AM
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Don't forget lacrosse.
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Dec 18, 2024, 12:21 PM
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Re: Or gymnastics!!***
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Dec 18, 2024, 2:08 PM
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I think our wrestling team has a good chance too!
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We got a decent team but we allow this crazy run as of late....
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:19 AM
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..which is really concerning.
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CBB has been here before
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:20 AM
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Iād guess lessons have been learned, he knows what to do.
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Re: CBB has been here before
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Dec 18, 2024, 9:48 PM
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More often than not. .588 career coach at clemson. Not to mention the other mediocre stats heās accrued. One elite 8 run doesnāt end 15 years of garbage.
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Valid points***
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Dec 19, 2024, 7:07 AM
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Re: CBB has been here before
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Dec 19, 2024, 1:13 PM
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Obviously clueless about hoops. BB is one of the most highly respected coaches in the country. The job heās done at Clemson is tremendous. Heās built a great culture and itās only going to get better
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^ BOT***
Dec 19, 2024, 2:18 PM
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Message was edited by: Francis MarionĀ®
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Re: ^ BOT***
Dec 19, 2024, 2:57 PM
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Iām not sure it isnāt OleMike deploying reverse psychology.
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Re: Another tough basketball loss last night
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:29 AM
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There's not a bigger fan of Coach BB and the basketball program than you. I'll give you that.
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Re: Lakhin shooting goofy 3 pointers I can live without
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:31 AM
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Brad must think he can turn every one of his forwards and centers into PJ Halls. Play your 7 footers DOWN LOW!
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Ill have to leave the Xs and Os the the expert
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:34 AM
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CBB.
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Re: Ill have to leave the Xs and Os the the expert
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Dec 18, 2024, 9:49 PM
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Does his record equal expert? Two CAA and one horizon championship with two ranked teams in 23 years?! Not an expert.
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brad doesn't usually make a run in the acc tournament.***
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Maybe this year will be different
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:00 AM
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considering his use of the portal.
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Re: Maybe this year will be different
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Dec 18, 2024, 6:02 PM
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And as you said, Iām sure heās learned from the past 14 years of experience.
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Basketball pays it's own freight the ACC TV contract has significant BB payments***
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:15 AM
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That is incorrect.
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:34 AM
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Menās basketball generates approximately 1 million in profit, womenās basketball loses approximately 3.5 million. Basketball at Clemson does not pay its own freight and needs approximately 2.5 million from football to sustain itself each year. And this is ok, it happens at most schools.
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Orange Phenom [14497]
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Wrong pappy
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:41 AM
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The university income statement does not break out all revenues by sport. For example royalties, merch, and media payments are held on a consolidated line. The only items they break out discretely are revenues like tickets sales. The ESPN TV contract has significant revenue due to ACC basketball, Clemson doesn't break that out discretely for each sport.
If I were in charge of financial reporting for the AD I'd fix that, but then they aren't on my level.
PS did the women's team lose a game last night too? Or are you just adding them to the mix just to attempt to make your OP less inaccurate.
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So you are correct
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:44 AM
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and all financial data available is wrong, because of secret accounting that nobody but the Athletic Department and you know about?
Hmmā¦ I guess Iāll just accept your version.
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That would be the wise choice
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:46 AM
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As they are amateurs compared to me
PS none of this is a secret all of the relevant financial exhibits are available to view. All you need is the ability to understand them.
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Re: Wrong pappy
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Iām actually inclined to get the financial statements as it would be interesting reading. Iām guessing you and I do the same thing professionally  ">
What I do find interesting is that BMV Sports after requesting the records was able to post football specific information, which leads me to believe it is broken out at some level.
https://bvmsports.com/2024/03/15/how-clemson-football-performed-financially-in-fy2023/
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I stand corrected
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Dec 18, 2024, 6:01 PM
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According to that article menās basketball brings in 9.9 million and spends 10 million. This is not good.
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Re: I stand corrected
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Luckily Dabo helps them out. It would suck if we had to scrap basketball for losing money.
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Re: That is incorrect.
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It's profit. Oe are your saying is revenue. I think the bb team generates more than $1 mil in revenue. They play 25 TV games.
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Profit
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:57 AM
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Income is around 9.5 million, expenses are around 8.5 million.
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Do you not understand the term profit?***
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Re: Another tough basketball loss last night
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Dec 18, 2024, 11:39 AM
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It is very commendable the sacrifice that Dabo and the football team are making to help our basketball team. Let's win the ACC both basketball and football to show Dabo and the team how much their generosity is appreciated. Also Francis Marion for pointing this out. Sometimes I think people look past Dabo's generosity. Go Tigers! š
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sounds like a south carolina fan talking about their football team***
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Im sorry
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Dec 18, 2024, 9:18 PM
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I have no idea what SC fans sound like.
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Re: Another tough basketball loss last night
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cancel all sports except football
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Re: Another tough basketball loss last night
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Three way tie for 3rd in the ACC. Itās early, but isnāt this the time to beat your chest(or pass judgement)? I personally will hold my excitement til the end of season, but we know you live and die in the moment. Congratulations!
Yea! Go Tigers!
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