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Re: Buneoside by Aztra Zenica
Jul 11, 2020, 2:51 PM
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OAN.
Sigh.
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for Chrissakes, can we leave Politics out of something
Jul 11, 2020, 3:34 PM
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and just simply hope that a regimen actually works in reducing deaths?
SMFH...
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Re: for Chrissakes, can we leave Politics out of something
Jul 11, 2020, 3:58 PM
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No. You can only get information from the approved sources. How else can you be controlled to avoid wrongthink?
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my bad! so if we die, we die pigheaded, is that it??!!***
Jul 11, 2020, 4:12 PM
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I’m not coming at you man.
Jul 11, 2020, 4:23 PM
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You’re right. Some people focus exclusively at the source and disregard any information there.
As opposed to say a non-liberal listening to NPR or reading the Washington Post - not for affirmation like liberals do, but looking for some real info, maybe even contrary to what they currently think. And sometimes it’s there. You have to ignore the biased negative “analysis” or “take” where they immediately try to tell you what that info means and how to think about it.
There really are pieces of corn in those turds, if you’re willing to go through the trouble. Just ignore the constant bias and think for yourself with the information, piecing together a big picture using all sources of information.
The left just goes ugh, OAN, Breitbart, etc. and says pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Just listen to us. We won’t just tell you what’s what, we will also tell you how to think so you can stay in lock step with the other brainwashed sheep. They create “fact checkers” that are just as biased as they are and the echoes all seem reasonable when you hear your own bias thrown back at you.
This has been going on for a long time. It’s like using the Southern Poverty Law Center to determine who is a “hate group.” LOL.
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Re: I’m not coming at you man.
Jul 11, 2020, 4:37 PM
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The problem is that this virus has been heavily politicized. It shouldn't have been, but it was, and unfortunately Trump's administration is now at odds with the medical profession.
OAN - which supports Trump far more than even Fox News does - would very much like their audience to believe that the threat from this virus is minimal and that the cavalry is coming and that some form of "silver bullet" cure will arrive any day now. They were big, big proponents of hydroxychloroquine until numerous controlled studies kind of conclusively stuck a fork in that particular hope.
I will allow any potential would-be cure deserves a look, but OAN does itself and its viewers no favors by throwing stuff like this against the wall and hoping their Hail Mary is answered and this one actually sticks, too.
OAN's game, and its intentions, are pretty obvious to anybody who takes any kind of critical look.
If this turns out to have any kind of veracity I'll be shocked. I've heard not one peep from any other news source - including Fox - on this, and that's telling. You don't think a "silver bullet" miracle cure would be newsworthy? It'd be the story of the year.
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Re: I’m not coming at you man.
Jul 11, 2020, 4:41 PM
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It depends on how much big Pharma can charge per dose. My gut feel is that they are looking for a cure that will cost $1,000 per dose. Anything dirt cheap will need to be discredited in a hurry.
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Re: I’m not coming at you man.
Jul 11, 2020, 4:57 PM
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I truly hope that the medical profession is not in the hip pocket of Big Pharma to that extent. If they are, we're all hosed, and it's just a matter of time before we start eating the Soylent Green.
Desperate doctors who actually care about their patients - and I truly do believe they exist! - will try stuff, and if they see something's working, they'll speak out. Even in China there were doctors who squawked about the coronavirus despite the Party's best attempts to keep a lid on it.
I hope and I believe that to be true, anyhow.
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Pravda, The Daily Californian, The Harvard Crimson
Jul 11, 2020, 4:18 PM
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let the pink begin....
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Re: for Chrissakes, can we leave Politics out of something
Jul 11, 2020, 4:18 PM
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OAN is an absolutely terrible source. Sorry. They just are. Screaming in a shrill voice about "wrongthink" doesn't make OAN any less of a turkey.
Not my opinion. There are plenty of neutral media monitors out there like Snopes and Politifact who fact check and analyze bias...and OAN bombs pretty much across the board in all marks. (They're not particularly kind to CNN or MSNBC either, but OAN is uniquely terrible among cable news networks, which collectively don't get good marks.)
Here's what mediabiasfactcheck.com, for instance, has to say about OAN:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/One America News Network (OAN) - Media Bias/Fact Check QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources. Overall, we rate One America News Questionable based on far-right bias, lack of sourcing, promotion of conspiracy theories, and propaganda as well as numerous failed fact checks. OAN is not a credible news source. Detailed Report Reasoning: Far Right Bias, Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Propaganda, Failed Fact Checks Country: USA World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180 History Founded in 2013, One America News Network (OANN), also referred to as One America News (OAN), is an American right-wing pay television news channel and website. According to the Washington Post since the election of Donald Trump OAN has become pro-Trump in coverage and a favorite news source for the President. The founder of OAN is Charles Herring who has said “Fox News has done [...]
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Re: for Chrissakes, can we leave Politics out of something
Jul 11, 2020, 4:28 PM
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I have never seen that network, but I have a novel idea. Check out what they say, not who says it. Either a story has credibility or not. I do the same with CNN (and others) and find them about the least credible after checking out their stories.
Who are the neutral media monitors? LOL!
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Re: for Chrissakes, can we leave Politics out of something
Jul 11, 2020, 5:56 PM
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Where do you go to "check out" / validate the stories? How do you validate what is truth? LOL!
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Re: Buneoside by Aztra Zenica
Jul 11, 2020, 4:25 PM
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I had read earlier that Corticosteroids (Asthma inhalers) is being studied at Oxford. For some reason, although people with respiratory problems were thought to be in a higher risk category, people that were using the inhalers for asthma were statistically less likely to get severely ill. Now they are doing a test with about 500 patients. I guess we will find out!
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Re: Buneoside by Aztra Zenica
Jul 11, 2020, 5:11 PM
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That doctor was on a local Dallas based tv news program. It was an interesting interview. His experience prescribing it as a breathing treatment (nebulizer) at home prior to his patients needing hospitalization was anecdotal of course but still a promising treatment to keep the infected from ever needing to go to the hospital. He had some patients with preconditions that are typical for progressing to a bad outcome. Pulmicort is a targeted steroid for the lungs so it avoids complications of giving intravenously like the other steroid that has made the news. I do hope this is further studied my the medical experts. We need the equivalent of Tamiflu for early intervention treatment of Covid-19 administered at home with manageable side effects. That would be a game changer.
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Budesonide as a treatment for COVID-19 may be effective
Jul 11, 2020, 5:50 PM
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but more studies are needed according to 4 Doctors asked about it in this article:
https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/budesonide-coronavirus-covid-19/
Like a lot of meds being looked at right now - Budesonide shows some promise as a COVID-19 treatment but most results are considered anecdotal right now.
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The FDA
Jul 11, 2020, 6:12 PM
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Will have more to say about the beginning of football season than any commissioner,NCAA, or any one else!
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