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Taibbi again

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 6:40 PM
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https://taibbi.substack.com/p/with-the-hunter-biden-expose-suppression-136?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzgxMDYwNiwicG9zdF9pZCI6MTQyMjU1MzIsIl8iOiJiWGhjbyIsImlhdCI6MTYwMzU3OTA0OCwiZXhwIjoxNjAzNTgyNjQ4LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMTA0MiIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.BPazMZi1L8bj0f1rNB0MjpSHkiD-HLXzbtn546rlIQs

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Re: Taibbi again

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 6:50 PM
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You and Taibbi might as well be working for the Russians

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we are...

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 6:54 PM
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we have to battle American disinformation from Americans trying to influence the American election.

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 7:24 PM
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Why would the social media platforms participate again in what Giuliani, Bannon, and Rupert Murdoch were trying to push? They knew exactly how this story goes because it's a re-run.

The social-media platforms got burned mightily by a last-minute disinformation blitz in 2016 that many believe successfully tilted the election; they saw it happening all over again, said "fool me twice, shame on me...and declined to participate this time around. And mucho zappage ensued. That's what history is, franc, people choosing sides at key moments...and they chose. As was their right under the law. There are no laws governing social media; just the social-media companies' own terms of service...which they are free to change at any time. A user who doesn't like those terms is free to start switch to any other social-media platforms that will allow them to spew any amount of hate or misinformation they care to.

Isn't that what Parler is, after all, a nice comfortable echo chamber where the Alt-Right can spew whatever venom and BS they want without being challenged or regulated on it in any way?

Mind, nobody outside the Fox Bubble will go near Parler because it makes Tucker Carlson look like Mother Theresa; it's like, apesh!t crazy up in there, but hey. If you want to try to maintain a viable business or even a viable civilization with that madhouse as your communications platform, you're absolutely welcome to try.


Re: Taibbi again

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 7:46 PM
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Because they don’t get to decide and neither do you...no matter how much smarter you think you are about the situation than everyone else.

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 8:31 PM
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Sure they do.

It's their platform. Again, if you don't like what they're doing on it, you don't have to give them your clicks. Those clicks are their ad revenue and that's where they make their money. That's your recourse, should you so decide.

You see those videos all the time of people making a big hairy deal about how it was "still a free country and they don't have to wear masks if they don't want to" as well. And they're right - outside on the sidewalk, anyhow, a person can do what he wants, within the limits of city or state ordnances, anyway. Inside it's a private business...and the business decides what's permissible and what isn't.

You don't like it, don't shop or eat there.

Facebook and Twitter are private companies. You use them you abide by their terms of service. And those terms are pretty much whatever they decide.


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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 9:02 PM
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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 9:30 PM
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It’s a platform not a publisher. Nobody’s violating their TOS. They’re just picking and choosing what they allow. Actually, the people usually breaking their TOS are unhinged libs saying all kinds of nasty and threatening stuff yet they rarely get punished. Wonder why.

I can’t wait until they get their liability protection taken away...or better yet...they get broken up in antitrust suits.

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It's pretty easy to tell the people who only read stuff...

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 10:18 PM
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that they agree with. Confirmation bias is a very comfortable place to live.

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Spot on - as long as we all acknowledge the bias.


Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 11:01 PM
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That's the problem here, as I see it. We all know and admit that Fox news is biased. Let's stop pretending that Facebook and Twitter are not, and that they don't have an agenda that drives their "fact checking". And yes, that's their right.

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Re: Spot on - as long as we all acknowledge the bias.

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Posted: Oct 25, 2020, 12:11 AM
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It's actually an interesting sociological question.

Facebook and Twitter are becoming increasingly aware of the distorted power they wield over social discourse itself. I don't think they ever really sought this power, or even wanted it...and they've certainly done their best to shirk their responsibility from it over the years, with that exact "we're a platform not a publisher" nonsense. (Horsesh!t, BTW...they're a mass publisher on a scale the old print presses never even aspired to.) But that power just sorta...growed.

The scale of what they do now control obviously scares them, as I think it would any rational person. Check out The Social Dilemma on Netflix if you haven't seen it; it's a really good watch. They're aware of the beast they've almost inadvertently created. he problem is it pays so very much...and then of course, there's this little problem that power, once you've got it, is so tasty and delicious and so very hard to give away....

I think we need to talk that out like rational people, what that means, and what we do going forwards...or that decision is going to be made for us...you know, like it just was.

Of course, Trump and his gang are not rational people or adults, so any grownup discussion is by definition not likely going to involve them. But I myself am all ears, because this is a new animal the human race has built here and if you know exactly how we're supposed to deal with it you're a heckuva lot smarter than I am.


Taibbi is hurting some people's feelings

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020, 9:22 PM
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he's dead on. This is a more dangerous issue than left verse right. Ignoring it is ignoring your freedoms slipping away

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