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Topic: Top 10 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (updated):
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Top 10 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (updated):

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:31 PM
 

1. DW
2. Steve Fuller
3. Tajh Boyd
4. Trevor Lawrence (win natty next year, would probably move to 1. Would probably move to 1 after two more years anyway because of stats).
5. Woody Dantzler
6. Charlie Whitehurst
7. Homer Jordan
8. Rodney Williams
9. Mike Eppley
10. Nealon Greene

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I would put Chris Morocco ahead of Nealon***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:42 PM
 




Maybe, but he only started one year. Also considered

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:52 PM
 

DeChane Cameron and Cullen Harper there.

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Re: I would put Chris Morocco ahead of Nealon***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:22 PM
 

After the top 7 it really doesn't matter.

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Re: I would put Chris Morocco ahead of Nealon***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 5:51 PM
 

Nealon is ahead of Morocco imo. Greene had very few weapons around him and had 3 different coordinators.


Mark Fellers at #9 or #10***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:46 PM
 




Yea, he had a good year, 7-4, in 1974. First coke bottle


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:50 PM
 

year I think.

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Pepsi bottle for undefeated home season.

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:55 PM
 

Still didn't make a bowl game.


Had Dawgs and Tech at home the same year for first


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:06 PM
 

time ever. In fact first year GT ever came to CU.

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Re: Had Dawgs and Tech at home the same year for first


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 6:14 PM
 

What about Machine Gun Kelly?


The amount of disrespect you are showing towards

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:50 PM
 

Will Proctor is appalling.

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Thinking we had approx. 28 QBs start between 1970


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:57 PM
 

and now, give or take a few. Where should we put Proctor?

27th in front of Mike O’Cain?

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4th behind 1) Trevor Lawrence, 2) Deshaun Watson and

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:04 PM
 

3) Willie Simmons

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Why? O'Cain never ran out of bounds on a 2 pt conversion


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:24 PM
 

because he was afraid to throw the ball


You talking about Billy Lott in 79? Didn’t know you were


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:19 PM
 

that old if so? Also, if you were talking about Lott vs Coots, it wasn’t a two point conversion but he threw it out of bounds against coots on 3rd inside the 5 which left us only one play.

And where’s your obligatory shout out that Whitehurst should be ahead of Boyd?

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No, I was referring to Proctor in the MCB vs UK...and it is

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:27 PM
 

laughable that you have Shooter behind Woodrow and Boyd...Charlie was the 2nd best QB to play at Clemson before DW and TL got here, and his 10 year career in the pros proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt...All you need is an unbiased brain to see it


But Woody was amazing and Boyd had incredible stats.


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:49 PM
 

Love debating this topic with you and one of the reasons I do this.

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Woodrow was amazing and Boyd did have great stats, but

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 7:00 PM
 

Charlie was better than both.


or Will Solomon***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 5:44 PM
 




You inadvertently left off

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 2:55 PM
 

Louis Solomon

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Did he ever start more than a couple of games? I know


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:01 PM
 

he was there during McCleon, Sapp, Moncrief, etc.

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Probably not. I just remember this one:

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:03 PM
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1992/10/11/clemson-rally-stuns-no-10-virginia-29-28/8db891ab-a8d2-481a-b2c8-2fc95caff876/?utm_term=.5a5fafb2d726

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Re: Probably not. I just remember this one:

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:06 PM
 

Yeah, Virginia really Kirby-Smarted themselves (before it was cool)...


Re: Top 11 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (Corrected):

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:01 PM
 

1. DW
2. Steve Fuller
3. Trevor Lawrence (Moved TL up over TB for having more wins over uOFsc)
4. Tajh Boyd.
5. Woody Dantzler
6. Charlie Whitehurst
7. Hunter Renfrow
8. Homer Jordan
9. Rodney Williams
10. Mike Eppley
11. Nealon Greene


Re: Top 11 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (Corrected):

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:59 PM
 

1. DW
2. Steve Fuller
3. Trevor Lawrence (should move up)
4. Charlie Whitehurst (4 wins over UofSC)
5. Woody Dantzler
6. Homer Jordan
7. Tajh Boyd (0 wins over USC)
8. Rodney Williams
9. Mike Eppley
10.Jacoby Ford


Re: Top 11 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (Corrected):


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 11:52 AM
 

Cullen Harper deserves much more consideration than Nealon Greene. Whitehurst clearly is among the top tier QBs and yet is under appreciated by many Tiger fans. I've been watching Tiger football since the mid-1960s so I've witnessed a lot by way of comparison.


Nice list.***


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will proctor was good ...

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:01 PM
 

wit the ladies ...

amirite ?

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Willie Simmons saved our bacon against UNCheat one time


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:06 PM
 

that should be worth something.

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2000. Yep, pat on the back for a great game.***


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Re: Willie Simmons saved our bacon against UNCheat one time

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:25 PM
 

sure did. I was there. we were dead in the water till he came in.

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I would already put TL at #2

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:07 PM
 

15-0 season with a national championship....

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I got Homer at 7 for 12-0 1981.***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:08 PM
 



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KB won the aTm game and Chase Brice won the Syracuse game***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:11 PM
 



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In what way did KB win the A&M game?***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:25 PM
 




Put it this way, we don't win that game without KB


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:35 PM
 

or at least the coaches didn't think so

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Do we win that game without TL?***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:00 PM
 




Who knows? But if it's baseball, the win would go to KB


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:22 PM
 

I'd be willing to go 50/50

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If it was baseball, the Cuse W goes to TL***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:30 PM
 




You sure about that?

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:38 PM
 

I seem to remember Chase being the QB in the game when we took the lead the last time. The W would go to Chase.

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How so? We were losing 13-7 when he left the game.***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:38 PM
 



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Full disclosure...I don't watch baseball...never been that


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 5:37 PM
 

bored


So what you're saying is, you were wrong? Again***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 9:04 PM
 



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be sure to book mark it


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 9:25 PM
 

I'll be disappointed if I don't see it again and again


Re: If it was baseball, the Cuse W goes to TL***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 4:47 PM
 



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Re: If it was baseball, the Cuse W goes to TL***

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 5:07 PM
 

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Re: I would already put TL at #2

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:16 PM
 

Yeah, Chase Brice could be included just for a single game performance/impact. It is tougher to tease out TL's overall 'woulda' performance if he started from day one without the KB impact. Would he have beaten A&M without sharing practice reps? Likely... but we won't know. Brice definitely earned his ring with the 4th&6 and could be consider a great just for that.


interesting note, the coot play in a stadium named after Clemson great Mike Williams and Chase Brice... what can I say, we own every football field in the state.


I didn't mean for him to include Brice in the Top 10 list...

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:22 PM
 

only that you can't give TL credits for all 15 wins.

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Re: I didn't mean for him to include Brice in the Top 10 list...


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 3:30 PM
 

I gotcha. Top 10 of a different list (QB's single game impact on the season or off-the-bench performance) and I agree on TL too.


Homer Jordan


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 5:43 PM
 

I take it he's in your list because he was the QB for the 81 NC team.
Otherwise....why!!!?
#21


Because he was a very good QB. He could roll out and run,


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 7:25 PM
 

and he threw a great out pattern on the run to Tuttle before Tuttle would cut, over and over. Plus, he ran the option to perfection.

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Billy Luckie has to be on the list.***


Posted: Feb 20, 2019 7:15 PM
 



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And Michael Carr.***


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TL 1. DW 2. Then Others

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 7:43 PM
 

TL number one. DW number two and then the others.


Re: Top 10 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (updated):

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Posted: Feb 20, 2019 9:38 PM
 

I think Streeter could have been on the list if he had an Offensive line to protect him.


Re: Top 10 QBs at Clemson since 1970 (updated):

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 12:03 AM
 

Our Coach Streeter is not too far off that list during his short stint.


If you made a list of toughest, Streeter and Whitehurst


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 8:25 AM
 

would have to be at the top of that list. They both had games where they physically got abused, and kept going.

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Tajh at 3 is LOL funny

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 9:31 AM
 

you've really got a 0-4 vs SCar QB ahead of 2 National Champions?

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Yea, winning played a part in it as did performance

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 9:52 AM
 

on the field. Boyd still holds these Clemson records:

Passing Yards - 11,904
TDs -107

Plus, he led us to our first ACC Title in 20 years. He had the misfortune of going against the coots when they were better.

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Knew that coming.

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 11:39 AM
 

Amazing how much ignorant hate TB receives from the coot losses.


eh I think it has more to do with folding in big situations,


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 3:41 PM
 

constantly spending time at 356 during the season, alleged gambling issues, and an interception every time he stepped out

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how about a QB with


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 9:36 AM
 

32 TDs, an ACC Championship, 16-2 overall, 5-1 vs ranked opponents?

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KB? He could arguably be 9 or 10.***


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Kyle Parker is the most underrated QB

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Posted: Feb 21, 2019 9:40 AM
 

in best hair category.

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Re: Kyle Parker is the most underrated QB


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 11:41 AM
 

I think Parker would have had a better shot to be on the list if he had quit football to focus on baseball after his freshman year.

His freshmen year was very impressive before we knew who Watson or Lawrence were.

2010 ruined his chances of even being considered a good player.


Boyd was 0-4 vs the gamecocks


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 12:12 PM
 

That easily drops him to 5th or 6th on this list

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Does it also drop Sammy and Nuk who I consider our


Posted: Feb 21, 2019 2:17 PM
 

two best WRs ever. They were both 0-3.

Boyd had the misfortune of playing when the coots were simply better.

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Sammy and Nuk had the misfortune of playing with Boyd***


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Who will win a Super Bowl first? DW or TL?

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Posted: Feb 22, 2019 5:24 AM
 

And will they face off in a Super Bowl if Bellichick doesn’t figure out a way to get TL in the AFC?

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Re: Who will win a Super Bowl first? DW or TL?


Posted: Feb 22, 2019 6:58 AM
 

Might want to consider Parker, considering he played most of the season, including the second half of the Auburn game with a busted rib or two. Greene could not run the option worth a durn. Tried to get West and his crew to recruit a little QB from the low country, but they only wanted him as a dback. He finished second in the Heisman. I give you Joe Hamilton. He could have also been our point guard.


No love for Ken Pengitore?

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Posted: Feb 22, 2019 8:00 AM
 

Running Red Parker's "Tiger Triple" to perfection. (at least once against UVA)


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