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Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 1, 2020, 10:15 PM
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“I am outraged”
“I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop,”
“Everything he has said and done is to inflame violence,” Budde of the president. “We need moral leadership, and he’s done everything to divide us, and has just used one of the most sacred symbols of the Judeo-Christian tradition.”
"We so disassociate ourselves from the messages of this president. We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so so grounding to our lives and everything we do and it is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/bishop-budde-trump-church/2020/06/01/20ca70f8-a466-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html
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Christians are showing their true colors
Jun 1, 2020, 10:15 PM
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Some in good ways.
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Episcopagans.***
Jun 1, 2020, 10:24 PM
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Typical***
Jun 1, 2020, 10:50 PM
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Which denomination is your favorite?
Jun 1, 2020, 10:52 PM
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I don't know much about the differences between them all, except that Southern Baptists are the ones who made their own church so they could keep owning slaves without the guilt trips every Sunday.
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Ah, this is one of those moments...
Jun 2, 2020, 1:05 AM
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Where your version of Christianity is somehow the right version and the others aren't real.
Boy, it must be great to actually nail the precise perfect religion and have all those other millions be wrong.
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True Christians...
Jun 2, 2020, 1:04 AM
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Are showing their colors right now in superb ways. They're standing against this evil administration.
People who claim to be Christians but really aren't are predictably worshiping Dear Leader and cheering him on.
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So to be clear
Jun 2, 2020, 1:16 AM
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Would Jesus have ordered...
Jun 2, 2020, 2:43 AM
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Authorities to fire tear gas and rubber bullets on peaceful demonstrators so he could walk from his house to a church for a photo op?
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Re: Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 1, 2020, 10:21 PM
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Dang, Bishop to King 6. Check
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Rock Defender [53]
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Surprise..she's a libbie
Jun 1, 2020, 10:27 PM
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Re: Surprise..she's a libbie
Jun 1, 2020, 11:05 PM
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You keep avoiding commenting on the idiot standing in front of the church holding the bible. You brought up the rioters and now criticizing the bishop. WHAT ABOUT THE GREAT BIG ORANGE FATASS HOLDING A BIBLE. WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT????? 
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Rock Defender [53]
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I say
Jun 1, 2020, 11:07 PM
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Re: Surprise..she's a libbie
Jun 1, 2020, 11:08 PM
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And you say that like its a bad thing. See, the problem with you Trumpers is you really, really want to hate other Americans.
You don't really believe in freedom. She has as much gotdam right to be a liberals as you do a fringe right-winger. This is America jackleg. We enjoy freedoms that our forefathers died for. But you and your friends want to hate on other Americans for exercising the same exact freedoms.
So don't give me that fake outrage when somebody burns the flag in protest, you freaking don't understand what it actually stands for proud boy!
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Re: Surprise..she's a libbie
Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM
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Re: Surprise..she's a libbie
Jun 1, 2020, 11:37 PM
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I didn't say it wasn't her right. I was pointing out where her point of view was coming from. If you can't remain calm and discuss stuff instead of making feeble attempts to insult me, then kindly fck off....friend.
Lol. Sometimes in reading posts it's difficult to insert innuendo or nuance. I was actually smiling. I wasn't angry. But I am trying to pin you down a little. You're right about the riots, I don't disgree with you at all. But I cant do anything about them other than catching a flight, cab down to the protesters and fling myself in front of the ner'do wells who are causing the trouble and slash them with my sharpened ice cream spoon. Beyond that, not much I can do other than condemn them.
So, what do you think about Trump's 'photo op'....friend?
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Re: Surprise..she's a libbie
Jun 2, 2020, 12:40 AM
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What did you think of Biden’s photo op with the black church earlier in the day?
Powerful?
Moving?
Healing?
Staged?
Opportunistic?
Desperate?
It all depends on one’s point of view. But when your world view is being curated and spoon-fed to you it’s hard to realize there’s any other way to think.
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Legend [18026]
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How did Biden get there?
Jun 2, 2020, 1:02 AM
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Did he fire tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protestors in order to push them away from his photo op? Did he do this because he was upset at news coverage of him hiding away in his bunker?
I agree with your last sentence.
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Re: How did Biden get there?
Jun 2, 2020, 2:07 AM
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He was probably chauffeured there, if that makes one photo op better than another.
Speaking of spoon-feeding, what makes you think “he was upset at news coverage of him hiding away in his bunker?“ is this something he said, or you saw first hand, or was this something that was spoon-fed to you - literally word for word - and you just regurgitate it right back out?
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Yes, it clearly makes one better than the other.
Jun 2, 2020, 2:25 AM
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I'd love to hear your reasoning on why it doesn't.
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Nothing says good sources like
Jun 2, 2020, 2:43 AM
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Legend [18026]
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ok.***
Jun 2, 2020, 2:44 AM
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Is, “he was probably chauffeured there”
Jun 2, 2020, 9:17 AM
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Really your response to the President dispersing peaceful protestors with tear gas and rubber bullets? Have you no decency?
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Well you're a lefty atheist
Jun 2, 2020, 12:27 AM
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I'm a libertarian agnostic
Jun 2, 2020, 1:02 AM
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I tend to #### people off on the left and the right. Atheism believes in no religion or spirituality; an agnostic isn't sure and recognizes that something might be out there.
But a conservative doesn't support a heavy-handed federal government, statism, or a strong executive figure circumventing checks and balances to exert his authority. A conservative supports limited government and local control. A conservative believes in fiscal responsibility in our government. A Trumpist isn't a conservative because his actions fly against the traditional conservative ideology.
And a Christian would never attack people the way you do for their differences in political affiliation or their opposing beliefs. A Christian would respect those people, even if he disagreed with them, and accept them as fellow brothers. A Christian wouldn't cheer their demise or misfortune or punishment at the hands of an overbearing government. A Christian wouldn't threaten them and challenge them to fights. A Christian would follow Christ's example in loving thy neighbor and making peace rather than demonizing them for being different.
So, therefore, sir, you are no Christian and no conservative. I know you think you are, but your actions speak quite a different tune.
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Re: I'm a libertarian agnostic
Jun 2, 2020, 1:29 AM
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Re: I'm a libertarian agnostic
Jun 2, 2020, 2:48 AM
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I don't really label myself. I've said a million times I could do without some of Trump's rhetoric, but I mostly agree with his policies.
Do you claim to be a conservative Christian? Don't do it any more if you do.
This isn't any statism or heavy-handed federal government.
Yes, it is. When the president orders tear gas and rubber bullets on peaceful protesters so he can have a photo op, that's exactly what that is. When he threatens to turn the military on our citizens, that's statism and a heavy-handed federal government.
You saw yourself what happened in Charleston. That isn't protesting. There's no Constitutional right to do any of that.
I never claimed it was. What Trump did today to peaceful protesters was a violation of their rights and inexcusable.
You're right. I'm not great at being a Christian. My wife is much better than me. I do try to live by a lot of principles though. It's funny when you see me as attacking others, when you literally came on tonight and attacked me...out of the blue. That happens on a P&R board. People disagree. The country is split about 50/50. Nothing new. I'm not cheering anyone's demise or destruction because of their beliefs, lifestyle or anything like that. I couldn't care less though what happens to these people who are hurting others and destroying property. IMO they forfeit their rights when they infringe on the rights of others like that. I've seen this get worse and worse over the years...all from the left. You can talk all you want about white supremacists or Charlottesville or gun-wielding people at the Michigan statehouse, but we both know which side throws a tantrum and causes destruction when they don't get their way at the ballot box. So yes, I'm done turning the other cheek. Sorry if that offends.
That doesn't offend me. Just don't call yourself a Christian because you're not. A Christian doesn't attack people the way you do and vent such hatred because of a disagreement of political ideology. If you're that insecure that you can't turn the other cheek because someone disagrees with you, okay. But don't dare think you're a Christian. Or, rather, if you do claim to be one, it's time you really revisit the Gospels and reevaluate life.
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Re: Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 1, 2020, 10:30 PM
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WHAT on God's Green Earth - literally! - is the man trying to do?
Everything in this whack job's mind is about the photo op, and it's like the actual reality doesn't even matter..you know, like the fact that he rolled in and rolled out on a military cordon that tear-gassed protestors along the way, never actually went into the church or told them he was coming - or, you know, asked permission.
He lives in this very weird bubble. He really does. And it's always been weird in there but man does it look like it's getting weirder by the day.
God help him when Fox News cuts its losses and turns on him. Between that and his breakup with Twitter, who's left to repeat his BS to the base that he keeps doubling and now apparently tripling down on?
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Bro when y'all start caring more about these riots
Jun 1, 2020, 10:32 PM
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Re: Bro when y'all start caring more about these riots
Jun 1, 2020, 10:44 PM
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than a President taking a risk and making a photo op (your words), then I'll listen.
CIVIL UNREST IS A SYMPTOM OF UNREDRESSED ISSUES.
Those with an authoritarian bent think machine-gunning protestors is the answer...I'll just say: good luck with that.
The cops killed one guy in George Floyd. You wanna see what happens if some National Guardsmen come off the handle and kill a hundred?
Civil unrest will grow into full-on insurgency, what's happened so far will look like a square dance...and the only ones left standing by Trump will be the psychopaths. Most governors - and not just the so-called "liberal" ones - are not going to follow him down that rabbit hole, and neither, I suspect, will the military.
He needs to cool this off, not pour more gasoline on the fire. Or he won't even make it to November to get clobbered in the election.
America isn't a military dictatorship. Not yet, anyhow.
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Re: Bro when y'all start caring more about these riots
Jun 1, 2020, 10:50 PM
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Re: Bro when y'all start caring more about these riots
Jun 1, 2020, 10:55 PM
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Wait. What the hale does that have to do with very disturbed man walking to St. John's church. Everyone condemns the looters and rioters.
There were peaceful protesters in front of St. Johns and they opened up on them with flash-bangs and rubber bullets to clear them out so this idiot could stand there with the Bible.
https://youtu.be/zQCHvK_pB7U
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Yeah 60 Secret Service agents were injured over the
Jun 1, 2020, 11:00 PM
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I don't think those were the same people***
Jun 1, 2020, 11:11 PM
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idk if they were or not
Jun 1, 2020, 11:13 PM
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Unredressed?
Jun 1, 2020, 11:01 PM
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Weird because Obama was President for eight years and Dems had control of the House and the Senate for the first two years. All the power. And what was the focus? Amnesty for Dreamers and any other illegal immigrants? No. Reparations for slavery over and above any other government hand outs over the past decades? Nope.
Obamacare.
And that’s how they lost Congress.
If you think there is a way to redress these issues that wouldn’t just lead to more and more demands, why didn’t Obama and Pelosi and Reid do it?
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Re: Unredressed?
Jun 1, 2020, 11:31 PM
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Because they were incompetent in that they were swayed by special interests. Obama himself said that after he left office that he 'spoke differently" when the wealthy donors were around. Obamacare was good, but he could have done more. It is my belief that he missed a historic opportunity. And reparations for slavery will never, ever happen.
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They barely got obamacare through after Kennedy died
Jun 2, 2020, 12:03 AM
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That's why some of it is messy, by the time Obama signed, it couldn't be revised anymore because that clown won Kennedy's seat for a few years before he moved to another state. Most right-wing idiots enjoy the protections and benefits of the law while constantly whining about it. Stupid is stupid, so I says.
After February 2010, there was no way to pass anything substantial because McConnell filibustered everything. So, to correct some feeble minds, he really only had a little over a year (Jan 20, 2009-Feb 4, 2010) to get anything substantial enacted.
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Re: Unredressed?
Jun 2, 2020, 12:51 AM
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Ok. So if a genius light-bringer like Obama wasn’t competent enough to do it, it’s not like anyone thinks a paste-eater like Joe Biden is going to fix it.
The “unredressed issues” will stay unredressed. I assume things would just be covered differently by the press.
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But then there's the CIA... and others. Right, Jack(ie)?***
Jun 1, 2020, 10:52 PM
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Re: Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 1, 2020, 10:48 PM
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Yeah, he had them shoot rubber bullets and tear gas to clear out the protesters so this POS could stand in front of St. Johns and hold up a bible. Then they walked back to the White House. I found it notable that as he was walking toward the church with Bill Barr, the looks on their faces....they looked like condemned men.
This man is a nut:
This guy is really unhinged. There is something deeply wrong with this man.
https://youtu.be/ea7XeWQ_Ybo
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Like Caesar reviewing his troops... Narcissist-in-Chief.
Jun 1, 2020, 10:59 PM
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It's not long...Eh, Brutus...?
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Re: Like Caesar reviewing his troops... Narcissist-in-Chief.
Jun 1, 2020, 11:04 PM
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You’re hoping someone assassinates the President and soon?
Wow.
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That's at least the 2nd threat he's made on POTUS
Jun 1, 2020, 11:16 PM
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You're a F-ing LIAR. I haven't threatened anyone, but if I
Jun 1, 2020, 11:43 PM
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did, it would be your sorry axx...
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So is that another threat to me now too?
Jun 1, 2020, 11:48 PM
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Ultimate Trump Derangement Syndrome
Jun 1, 2020, 11:21 PM
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Rioters-set historic church on fire
Trump-sends military to protect church
Church-fire was Trump’s fault
living in some kind of bizarro world now
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Re: Ultimate Trump Derangement Syndrome
Jun 1, 2020, 11:23 PM
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He took a Bible to an Episcopal church for Pete’s sake.
A Bible is the last thing they want even near their church.
He needs to show more understanding.
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Re: Ultimate Trump Derangement Syndrome
Jun 1, 2020, 11:26 PM
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I’d think they’d prefer a bible to a Molotov cocktail...but maybe you’re right.
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I'm not outraged, but it's gross.
Jun 2, 2020, 6:05 AM
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He's posing with a Bible he doesn't believe in like it's the Queen of England before a state dinner.
This is a weird flex from the President.
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Re: Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 2, 2020, 8:52 AM
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First Timothy 3
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Titus 1
6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;.."
When we see atheist start to side with church leaders we know good and well the churches suffer this problem.
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Re: Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 2, 2020, 9:12 AM
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"She" replies....funny how one single pronoun tells you all you need to know..
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Re: Episcopal bishop of Washington (oversees St. John's) says...
Jun 2, 2020, 9:24 AM
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Thank you, there wasn't nearly enough misogyny around here before you showed up.
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