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Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:04 PM
 

unsuccessful, stretch the D horizontally, , make the WRs blocking easier because it pulls the DBs in, and are just smart safe calls.

How many DBs did you see in the picture on all the long TD runs? Zero. It was like Wake was playing with 7 men.

So, shut the F up with the criticism. You don't know shlt.

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:07 PM
 

Go back and watch the A&M game, then imagine it’s Alabama and get back to us on that

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:12 PM
 

When we played A&M? That was the 2nd game of the year after playing Furman with a freshman QB playing in front of 100k hostile fans. With TL’s arm it’s basically a 20 yd handoff. Yes better teams will defend it better and occasionally blow it up but we’ve had far more success than failure with it over the years. OP is right it makes the DBs play tighter and opens up the field for other stuff


Re: Do you not think we’re a better team now than

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 3:39 PM
 

Successful running pulls the whole D up. Then the Offense won't have to gain 3 or 4 yards on a bubble/tunnel screen. They go for it all with Higgins and Ross. CU has thrown that bubble creep so often the past 4 years, the DBs are already up. Just run the #### ball and play action the pass.

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 3:44 PM
 

But why are people bashing getting 3 or 4 yards on a play? Last time I checked that’s a good thing. They can’t all be 60 yd runs or 50 yd completions. As long as we aren’t blowing ourselves up with dropped laterals or pick 6’s, I have no problem.


Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:13 PM
 

Bubble screens are a waste of a down. Seldom do they go for more than 2,3, or 4 yards and sometimes for 0 yards. A run would be just as productive if not better.

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:16 PM
 

I think we have proven the run this year, we used to not have any explosiveness on the run and had to use the bubble, now we have not 1, not 2 but 3 explosive running backs that can do this job effectively.

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3 explosive running backs?


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:27 PM
 

Mr Choice begs to differ

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Posted: Oct 8, 2018 11:58 AM
 

LMAOOOO hey he did have a nice long run against wake


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If the CB's are playing 5 to 7 yards off

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:15 PM
 

Then you'll want to have run the screens beforehand so as to give the receiver and other WR's the experience to block and run the play. If they are playing that far off then a well executedscreen is 3 to 5 yards against a good D.

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:15 PM
 

We'll run 20 WR screens and that will loosen them right up. Then BAM it's ETN up the middle baby!

Can't go wrong.

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 5:14 PM
 


Go back and watch the A&M game, then imagine it’s Alabama and get back to us on that


Let's see if we can clear this up for Mr. Bubble/Tunnel screen through the first 3 games 2018:

Furman Game: ETN already has 14 yards rushing and Higgins has a first down reception and Play # 9 the old bubble/tunnel screen results in 0 yards eventually the drive dies.

TA&M Game - first play of game a low throw on the old bubble/tunnel screen for -1 yard

GA Southern - Run and pass mix with ETN, Higgins, Renfrow, and Galloway then on the 8th play the old bubble/tunnel screen is intercepted.

Please don't ask me to go any further. The bubble/tunnel screens have been over used over the past 3 or 4 years and its predictable. One week it's about the 8th play and the next week, it's the first play. There are many other ways to spread a defense. Although, I will admit that the passes are now getting to the receivers faster than they were.

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 5:18 PM
 

Let's see if we can clear this up for Mr. Bubble/Tunnel screen through the first 3 games 2018:

Furman Game: ETN already has 14 yards rushing and Higgins has a first down reception and Play # 9 the old bubble/tunnel screen results in 0 yards eventually the drive stalls.

TA&M Game - first play of game a low throw on the old bubble/tunnel screen for -1 yard

GA Southern - Run and pass mix with ETN, Higgins, Renfrow, and Galloway driving down the field then on the 8th play the old bubble/tunnel screen is intercepted.

Please don't ask me to go any further. The bubble/tunnel screens have been over used the past 3 or 4 years and it has become predictable. One week it's about the 8th play and the next week, it's the first play. There are many other ways to spread a defense. Although, I will admit that the passes are now getting to the receivers faster than they were.

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when


Posted: Oct 8, 2018 9:23 AM
 

Kelly Bryant can’t throw screens so stop with the A&M talk. TL screens work perfectly


Indeed, and additional to that

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:10 PM
 

Most, certainly not all, of them were called/run (as RPO) in situations where they should've gotten 5 to 8 yards if executed successfully. WR blocking was lacking, and a few of the passes weren't placed well, and the receiver sometimes hesitated too much before the first move, but the calls themselves weren't bad. It honestly began to look like we were running it to get it right.

It can be frustrating to watch, I know, but I can't find too much to get upset about, and certainly don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth on the board yesterday,=.

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Re: Indeed, and additional to that


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:37 PM
 

I wait for a DC to put a "spy" defensive back on the screen formation and just run to the line of scrimmage with the goal of a pick 6...

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:12 PM
 



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Re: ^^^really doesn't know shlt.^^^***

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:34 PM
 

Yeah, 3rd down and 4, throw a 2 yard pass. That really works !!

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 1:36 PM
 

And that’s the other thing, it’s not so much that we run them that’s so stupid, it’s when we run them.


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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 2:55 PM
 

Nobody is saying the slip screen is not a viable play. It is one of many that helps set the table for other plays in the play book. Calling plays is a chess game, and the screens do help manipulate the defense into a position that makes other plays suceed. However, we ran like 9 of them in first three series. That situation means you pull the defensive backs up in the box and then keep calling plays into the space where that play will now be the least successful. There was a time when we didn’t run the ball well enough that the short passing game was the substitute for the run game. We now have an actual run game so the dependence on the slips screens is gone. I think the OCs have gotten used to calling plays for K.B. and they are still figuring out the bed t way to utilize TL’s superior arm talent. They will eventually find the right mix and the slip screen will still be needed, but nearly as much.


Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 3:25 PM
 

When you are playing chess instead of checkers, some of the plays you run are to set up something else later. If in the meantime, if you are getting decent yards off it, all the better. Although I forget myself and think I know something about it, I recognize I'm not even up to checkers, I'm still playing chutes and ladders.


It seemed clear to me that when we ran up the middle for

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 3:47 PM
 

the first time in the game and it went for a TD that Clemson was setting up Wake. TL read the defense and they gave him the screens over and over so that was the play he took. We then finally brought up one of safeties down to help with the screen, bam, up the middle for a TD.

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 5:24 PM
 

I've been waiting for the bubble/screen pump and go. I think that one has been set up for about 3 years now.

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 3:40 PM
 



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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 3:51 PM
 

I recall in '15 watching Deon Cain take one to to the house off of a Bubble Screen. Also against the ##### later on if not mistaken. Bubble Screens work great if the throw is well placed and quick, WR block, and the WR makes the first guy miss. Frankly one of the reasons they were so bad last year is a fact I have kinda harped on for the last year. KB threw a very slow, poorly placed ball. When its late getting there, and behind the WR, he has NO CHANCE. Thats why no success imo. Someone else already hit the nail on the head. The Spread Offense has to do just that, SPREAD a team out, stressing the defense on all levels of the field. Now that we have someone who can utilize all parts of the field, the running game is starting to eat. Coincidence? I think not.

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You are 100% correct

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 4:04 PM
 

They make the defense cover sideline to sideline. Make them run. You play fast off of them you're playing against a possible winded player. It's part of our gameplan to wear down defenses. You're not going to have 6, 50+ yards touchdowns regularly. Never have understood the constant whining about them, other than a complete lack of understanding of our offensive philosophy.

And then every once in a while you have a Deon Cain moment like in the 2016 Championship Game. That play put us back in the game


Re: You are 100% correct


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 4:41 PM
 

I want to see us run it a couple of times and then set one up and have the lead blocking receiver release and go long!


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Posted: Oct 8, 2018 11:49 AM
 

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 5:17 PM
 

We have the number one sniper in America, screw bubble gum screens.

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 5:45 PM
 

There you go. Is that helpful?
Btw. I have a question.
Did you also enjoy seeing or big threat WR Higgins laying on the ground after little to ZERO gain on this oh so awesome play you are so hard for?
That is just one tiny example of the wasteful nature of this less than productive play.

p.s.

I know I don't know shite. There I put it in for you.

Tah tah Joey.


Re: You're upset. You should stop reading TNET.


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 6:06 PM
 

Players get tackled on all sorts of plays. Higgins was hit going out of bounds after running a few yards. He literally could’ve been hit the same way on a catch 20 yards down the field.


Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when


Posted: Oct 7, 2018 8:16 PM
 

WF played C2 defense. Anyone with any football knowledge knows you attack the MOF on an opposing defense in C2.

When we did, we scored pretty much at will.

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Nice language coot

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Posted: Oct 7, 2018 8:18 PM
 

And you have not one clue what youre talking about. Not one.


Y'all n-words posting in the troll thread***

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Re: Bubble/Tunnel screens even when

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Posted: Oct 8, 2018 9:23 AM
 

You’re the man


What's a bubble screen

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Posted: Oct 8, 2018 11:53 AM
 

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Seeing is believing...


Posted: Oct 8, 2018 12:08 PM
 

it's just difficult to see if one's head is up his butt. +1

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