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The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:08 PM
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Not going into a lot of detail here but IMO this draft represents the final demise of recruiting under Covid rules and Dabo getting robbed of his secret sauce of knowing his recruits and their families better over several years there. We've had talent, yes, and we have our share of big moments, but overall leadership throughout the ranks, which has put our ROY Bus numbers and schedule on the mountaintop often enough, has been off.
With so few departures, and openings, creating some angst both in our '25 recruiting class and NFL offsprings, take solace in our program rounding back into form with what it's always done best under Dabo - attract the best kids willing and able to go the distance together through thick and thin.
Salud'!
Go Tigers!
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there once was a time when Clemson players looked like Alabama players
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:11 PM
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that has long passed ... and when SEC teams look at the Clemson teams warming up. they know they have our number
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You will eat those words when we take the field vs LSU come August.
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:13 PM
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If you have the stomach for it.
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I won't really care to be honest. It's been too long since theyve won a big game
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 PM
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in Death Valley.
Like I'll be there. it'll be a great time. but if they win. it's just the expectation.
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Re: I won't really care to be honest. It's been too long since theyve won a big game
Apr 29, 2025, 7:21 AM
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2023 Notre Dame. Had 0 faith in us winning that game
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Re: You will eat those words when we take the field vs LSU come August.
Apr 29, 2025, 7:28 AM
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I think you’re wasting your breath wildblulou®. The person who bemoans ‘the sacrilege of any sport other than football tarnishing the sacred grounds of Memorial Stadium’ is now bashing the team that coaches and players that call Death Valley home.
It is either a troll or a toxic Eeyore…..
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even our top players right now ... when stacked next to
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Brent Venables key players - look soft and small
the offensive players, even though they are electric on paper. standing next to DW4 and TLaws and WRU players look small and soft
EYE TEST matters
hopefully I'm wrong about this 2025 team. but idk. this offseason feels a lot like the media talk we heard before goose egging UGA and choking at Duke
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See above.***
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 PM
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we will see . BEST was THE STANDARD
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:15 PM
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hopefully things get turned around
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:25 PM
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And coaching changes at t cost us solid recruits.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:30 PM
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Tell that to the Dudes we have on D.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:31 PM
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Tell them what? We did lose some quality players due to coaching changes. What do you want told to the dudes on D?
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:39 PM
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Think of how good this class is looking to be in the next draft. We had Keon Sabb too who will go 1st round supposedly.
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before BV left it was about to be
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:57 PM
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Breese, XT, KJ Henry, Nate Wiggins, Andrew Makuba, Daylen Everette, Keon Sabb, Barret Carter, Trenton Simpson and many more
yeah . Coaching changes up ended it all (or did Venables create it all)
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 9:27 PM
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I'm saying look at the Dudes we have on D and try that 'we missed' talk with any one of them.
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show the the Citdel film, the Louisville film, the SCAr film, the Texas film
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:58 PM
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can not tackle U
can not be in the right place ever U
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:48 PM
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Here is the deal. All classes prior to Covid were committed due to coaches, school, education and potential future. Recruits during Covid came for the namesake and not because they could evolved with the Clemson Culture. After this, schools started buying players legally and college athletics changed forever. Now it's a "What can you pay me world" vs "What can you do for my future world"!
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 9:11 PM
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And we have stayed true to our word, have today THE most experienced roster (and talented to boot) returning ready to suit up, and stand out like a beacon to the big noise of 'get it now' over the days and years after.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
Apr 28, 2025, 10:21 PM
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Yes, we probably have one of the most laden upperclass team, at least top 25 probably. I guarantee we have the most yrs of experience at a single school vs any team in D1 except for Military schools. Unfortunately, after this class our our recruitment of top 5-10 HS classes will have graduated leaving us with major holes to fill. If we had maintained top 10 classes we would be fine but we will continue to lean on portal even more in upcoming seasons. I expect this to be one of my last favorite classes as the landscape of college sports erodes and $$ dominates.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
Apr 28, 2025, 10:42 PM
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I hear you guy and it's not a nutty thinking. Historically our monster years are around 12-ish on roundabout years. It's them Hills that make up the difference.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 29, 2025, 7:52 AM
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Dabo has been consistently around top 15. He has very RARELY been top 5. Development and reranked pushed those classes into top 5. The 2015 class comes to mind at 7 with Wilkins and company. Ended up being the winningest senior class in history and was reranked as number two class after four years playing. Dabo rarely has to replace very many transfers and his classes end up smaller than the top recruiting schools.
I’d rather lose every game a Tiger fan than win all as a Coot or SEC flag waver.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 8:56 PM
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I think even more than that college football shifted into a free for all on pay-for-play rentals.
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Re: The Covid Class: 2021 - 2025
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Apr 28, 2025, 9:22 PM
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That happened at the same time, sure, but that's been the low hanging fruit to pick on. There's more to the story.
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Apr 28, 2025, 9:28 PM
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Great post.
Nike - get back to your sweat shop and poems about Death Valley - you sound like a Yard bird.
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The final demise of recruiting was unabated tampering and pay-to-play NIL deals
Apr 29, 2025, 8:31 AM
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Recruiting has largely been replaced by bidding.
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