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It is kindof odd isn't it? Why not just sit back and mock it
May 7, 2021, 11:06 AM
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if there's nothing to find?
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Orange Blooded [3520]
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Oh, you can be sure they will ‘find’ something
May 7, 2021, 11:15 AM
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The person paying for an audit always finds exactly what they intend to.
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lol, ya, sure***
May 7, 2021, 11:26 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Man, Dems are seriously trying everything they can to block
May 7, 2021, 11:19 AM
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Heisman Winner [137988]
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Or, alternatively,
May 7, 2021, 11:26 AM
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there's actually a security risk. I'm not clicking on a Washington Examiner link, but maybe there's some protocol that has to be resolved before this info is released to the audit team, instead of "THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A COVERUP, THEY'RE HIDING SOMETHING."
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Re: Or, alternatively,
May 7, 2021, 11:44 AM
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I'm glad this was brought up today,
May 7, 2021, 11:36 AM
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QAA podcast episode last night was about this very thing, and how it's re-energizing the QAnons, even Trump has weighed in on it.
Here are a few facts to understand before even talking about the current audit:
1. The county election board there does an initial, in house audit for accuracy on every election, and for elections that are close, there is a hand recount. Both of those were 100% accurate
2. Then, due to constant protests and action by state republican legislatures, the county hired two outside firms, both certified by US Election Assistance Commission, to do separate audits, each including searching for evidence of malicious software, hardware, source codes, internet connectivity, and accuracy. These two audits had observers from both parties, were live streamed, and found no issues with the election results
Not satisfied, a third audit is not being done at the behest of state Republican officials. The company doing this one is called CyberNinjas. It is owned by a man named Doug Logan, who before his twitter account was banned for promoting Q Anon material, posted and retweeted numerous false claims about election fraud, including all of the Sidney Powell and Lin Wood conspiracy stuff.
This man was in direct contact with Ron Watkins, the owner of 4-Chan turned 8-Kun, widely believed to be the person behind the actual Q posts. Watkins too seems to have become personally invested in this audit.
The audit techniques they are using include the use of a UV lamp to detect for folds on envelopes, a technology developed by a man named Jovan Pulitzer, famous for inventing a failed QR code scanner, who turned into a treasure hunter and has featured on multiple History Channel shows discussing the Arc of the Covenant being buried in a hole off Nova Scotia, brought over by submarining Romans circa 200AD. I swear to God this is a real story.
This third audit is more about show than any sort of meaningful audit. The official audit twitter account (what) is picking fights with and trolling Arizona election officials, and boasting about how many followers it has. The Q pilled people on Telegram etc are watching live streams of this and doing their Q thing, coming up with fun new conspiracies and all convinced this is the "first domino" that will see Trump rightfully reclaim his office.
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Re: I'm glad this was brought up today,
May 7, 2021, 11:39 AM
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Also, everyone's favorite Nazi Blog that I first saw on this very forum, the Gateway Pundit, is fully pilled on this, they're full-on Q Anon promoters now.
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Started that podcast this am, haven't gotten through it yet.
May 7, 2021, 11:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure xtiger and T3 don't quite understand how this Q stuff worms it's way into "mainstream" media (like the Washington Examiner, which, while far right, is a recognized name with some longevity and pre-quanon existence). CharlestonTom, on the other hand, is probably on 8kun posting and lapping up all kinds of batty shit straight from the source.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Started that podcast this am, haven't gotten through it yet.
May 7, 2021, 11:50 AM
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Re: Started that podcast this am, haven't gotten through it yet.
May 7, 2021, 11:56 AM
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There’s a great podcast that is a very entertaining listen. They shed light on a part of society that I find interesting. It’s also nice to be informed. I watch 0.0 Fox News or any other tv news BTW. I have a WSJ subscription, that’s where any news I read comes from.
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That's the point, numbnut.
May 7, 2021, 11:57 AM
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There is a metric ton of made-up garbage out there that you are unknowingly absorbing as truth. I'm trying to help you understand where it's coming from. If you don't care because it reinforces your narrative, then carry on.
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Re: That's the point, numbnut.
May 7, 2021, 12:11 PM
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"your side".
May 7, 2021, 12:12 PM
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There, in a nutshell, is your problem.
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Re: "your side".
May 7, 2021, 12:16 PM
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I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 1:18 PM
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Trump and his little Trumpkins tried really hard for unity over the past four years.
You know, with sentiments like this: " I want nothing to do with those politics or the people who support them. Your ideas are bad for the country and its future period."
Very cosmopolitan.
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Re: I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 1:19 PM
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All the political opponent as enemy or destroying the country whatever just seems like such an exhausting and anxiety provoking way to go through life
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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You'd think, but Dems just seem to beat the 'conservatives
May 7, 2021, 1:26 PM
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are domestic terrorists' drums even louder as time goes, by while simultaneously destroying their own communities. I wonder if they have shifts of armed protestors to man checkpoints and beat innocent people to avoid exhaustion? You'd think you'd be totally spent after pulling someone out of their car and almost kicking them to death.
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Re: You'd think, but Dems just seem to beat the 'conservatives
May 7, 2021, 1:29 PM
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I have literally no idea what you're talking about. Did something happen at a protest or something?
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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It happens almost weekly. We're also purging conservatives
May 7, 2021, 1:42 PM
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from law enforcement and military under the guise of "getting rid of white supremacy". Being paranoid about white supremacists hiding behind every rock would get tiring, no? Maybe tearing down a few more monuments will do the trick. Or form some more autonomous zones.
Point being, it's pretty silly to mock conservatives/republicans about any sort of paranoid rhetoric in light of the fact that the other side of the political aisle is physically acting on their paranoia through property destruction and violence...and have been for well over a year now.
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Is there an example...
May 7, 2021, 1:46 PM
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Of an officer or military member who is a conservative who has been booted under a false claim of white supremacy?
Any articles or names?
Seems if we're booting people from the military just because they are conservative, we won't have much of a military left.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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The efforts have just begun! But it's clear from the
May 7, 2021, 1:51 PM
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rhetoric coming out of the Pentagon and elsewhere that's the end game. We may have to wait for the lawsuits to start rolling out to get names, kind of like with the farmers who didn't get covid relief because they were white.
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But you said they're already purging them.
May 7, 2021, 1:58 PM
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Surely if someone were falsely labeled a white supremacist and booted from his job, we would hear about it and he would sue for defamation, no?
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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There's been a slew of people fired, kicked out of colleges,
May 7, 2021, 2:11 PM
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and otherwise publicly trashed for supposed racist behavior that was nothing of the sort. Denying the idea of systematic racism now makes one a white supremacist. I suspect we will see some lawsuits come out of this little witch-hunt, but I doubt we'll hear much about them in the media. It'll be buried like everything else that doesn't fit the woke narrative.
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But let's go back to military and law enforcement
May 7, 2021, 2:17 PM
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I know there has been talk of rooting out white supremacists, but who is getting booted simply for being conservative under the false claim of white supremacy?
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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We don't know yet, but based on past instances in other
May 7, 2021, 2:21 PM
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industries, the current social/political atmosphere, and the Pentagons very own rhetoric, I would say that's the logical outcome. And I suspect we will see lawsuits over it eventually.
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Re: It happens almost weekly. We're also purging conservatives
May 7, 2021, 1:47 PM
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I think they're both full of idiots. The scum that are tearing down statues and looting stores, doing property damage aren't making any political point, they're just being criminals and shi>theads. I saw it happen in Charleston last summer, the people breaking stuff were same people committing every other crime and violent act in that city.
I don't know anyone who thinks any of that is cool. None of this makes Q people any less crazy, which is what I thought we were talking about.
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From my perspective, what seems to be happening is that
May 7, 2021, 2:00 PM
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any and all concerns 'right wingers'(for lack of a better term) have, are being attributed to the q-anon conspiracies...and to do that, you'd have to completely ignore all of the other things that have happened over the past year, year and a half. These people tearing down statues and looting stores are absolutely making a political point, not all of them necessarily know it, but these are organized events aimed at causing social disruption and political instability.
The shock troops don't have to be in on the game, they just have to play their part. That's my personal opinion that is in no way derived from any part of q-anon, that's what I see from watching the riots and subsequent political actions taken by mostly Democrats over the past few dozen months. To be fair, there are Republicans playing the game too.
I've met a few q-anoners, I'm still speechless at some of the lizard people stuff, etc. But there's some nefarious nonsense going on in this country, and q-anon seems to be acting as a nice scapegoat to dismiss legitimate concerns.
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Re: I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 1:44 PM
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I'm in my mid 30's, not that it really matters. Seems to me time marches on and things stay relatively on the same track no matter who is in charge. A small cyclical sine wave on the linear trend forward. Maybe I just don't care enough about politics, maybe I should vote more, but honestly I don't care. I don't care who's mean to who in politics. I don't think the country is going to be doomed or whatever, from either direction. Seems a little dramatic.
I just want to live my life, do my job that I love, provide for my family, and be left alone. I'd love to keep more of the money I make, and I'm selfishly very adamantly against single payer healthcare, so my two biggest issues probably align me more with conservative people. I just wish they'd be the adults in the room and stop pandering to the lowest common denominator like the dems do. I've also watched people who I loved and respected have their brains turned to mashed potatoes by watching nothing but political cable news all day every day. It's all just a little exhausting.
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Re: I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 1:53 PM
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Re: I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 2:02 PM
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Other than some tax increases, that I don’t really like, I guess I just don’t see anyone threatening any other part of my life. Nothing that makes me want to go hold a sign outside anywhere, and definitely nothing that would make me want to back a retarded candidate. They’d make it a lot easier for people like me if they’d drop the Trump stuff, just being honest.
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Re: I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 2:08 PM
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Re: I forgot how much...
May 7, 2021, 3:07 PM
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Which Trump policies would you like to keep?
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Re: Started that podcast this am, haven't gotten through it yet.
May 7, 2021, 1:12 PM
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The problem is, the guys doing the audit sure as @#%^ can't.
The former president can't.
Half the audience on Fox can't, and basically NONE of the OAN/NewsMax audience.
For you to say: "it's no biggie" is just...off. None of us are intellectual islands, somehow firewalled and compartmentalized away from the world. It bleeds over. In this case, incessantly, the point that it's hard to tell where this QAnon stuff ends and "conservative media" even begins anymore.
This disinformation is an absolute digital plague, and it's killing us.
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Ya I am all for an independent audit, but this is being done
May 7, 2021, 11:58 AM
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by an audit company with an agenda. I wouldn’t trust this audit no matter what comes out of it. I wish they would have hired an actual independent auditor to this, that way both side would accept the results whatever ends up coming out.
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Re: Ya I am all for an independent audit, but this is being done
May 7, 2021, 12:12 PM
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Well yes but if they’re still upset and want a third,
May 7, 2021, 3:48 PM
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I could care less. Just get someone independent to do it.
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Re: Didn't they also have...
May 7, 2021, 1:40 PM
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They did indeed.
The dude was also barred from law enforcement work. Fraud, I think.
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As we watch the GOP's descension into madness, you can't
May 7, 2021, 11:49 AM
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help but think, they brought this #### on themselves.
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Sweet, Washington Examiner!
May 7, 2021, 1:04 PM
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The guys who fabricated the "Coke is making employees be less white" story.
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Gotsta protect the Po Po, right Dems?
May 7, 2021, 1:22 PM
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Who am I kidding?
The irony will be lost on the bored leftys
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why is election info and police info on the same servers?
May 7, 2021, 1:24 PM
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Would be a reasonable question to ask
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2 fails in a row. You wanna try for a 3rd?***
May 7, 2021, 2:23 PM
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Sore losers are still at it?
May 7, 2021, 3:27 PM
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Does anyone else recall all the complaints that Hillary was a sore loser? (Never mind that she, unlike Trump, congratulated the winner--Trump--once the result was clear.) Yet now it's okay to go on about it for months?
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