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Jack Leggett

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Jan 14, 2022, 10:52 AM
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Does anyone find it extremely odd that Jack Leggett still hangs around Doug Kingsmore? Like you were to narcissistic to resign or retire and so DRad had to fire you. Now years later you still come to all the games and hang around the program? Sitting near the dugout. Like what are you doing? Let it go and stay away. Theres a reason nobody jumped to hire you. Theres a reason Auburn took Butch Thompson over you when they were looking for a new coach back then. You were let go for a reason Leggett because you were washed up and didn't want to make changes. Now stay away. Quit walking in Monte Lee's shadows.

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Jan 14, 2022, 10:55 AM
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Now i get the 32...signed, Mr.( no longer) Curious.

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Jan 14, 2022, 10:58 AM
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Why would he not go if he retired in Clemson? Coaches all across the country that retire where they ended their careers, go to games.

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Jan 14, 2022, 10:59 AM
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He didn't retire. He was to stubborn and a narcist to give up his job. DRad fired him

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:23 PM
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Valley Boy said:

Why would he not go if he retired in Clemson? Coaches all across the country that retire where they ended their careers, go to games.




Because it is classless. If he had any class he would not hang around and be a distraction to Monte and the team.

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No, he lives here and has for many years. He lives and

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Jan 14, 2022, 10:59 AM
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breathes baseball and I think he just enjoys being around the program. I actually like that former coaches feel comfortable coming back.

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Exactly!***

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:23 AM
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Jan 14, 2022, 10:59 AM
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He's probably hanging around scouting since he coaches for team USA.

Are you auditioning to baseball's Judge Keller?

If so, you must be told that he spent some time contributing positively to the boreds prior to jumping off of a cliff with Brad.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:00 AM
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I am Monte Lee's biggest fan

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:14 PM
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Lol. Well no wonder you’re so irrational.

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Jan 15, 2022, 5:43 AM
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I’m a Monte fan too but Jack’s a Clemson legend and I think it shows a lot of class that he still comes and supports the team. Do you not want Danny Ford hanging around the football program either?

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:02 AM
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And by the way. He doesn't Coach Team USA anymore. You might want to dust your keyboard off and know what you're speaking of first! Thanks!

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:11 AM
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That is very funny! Like people on here think "Judge" is the all knowing!! He is just another person with an opinion, kinda like SEC Homer Paul Finedumb! We don't need a Base "Judge" or a football "Judge" for that matter. It amazes me to see people on TigerNet boards who put down others Posts and for some unknown reason believe that they know more than anyone else on TigerNet.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:13 AM
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He has earned the right to be there. How about you ?

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:48 PM
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I was referencing Judge Keller's efforts to blindly defend Brownell when asking if this poster intends to try to fill that place for Monte Lee.

I typically think Judge Keller has some pretty good posts when he is not posting directly or indirectly about Brownell and the basketball program, but I would never call him all-knowing.

Also there are people all over TNET who are either more or less informed on certain topics than the person they are having a discussion with.

That is the basis for sharing information is that everyone's knowledge is not equal.

In regards to Clemson's baseball program, I feel pretty confident that I know more about the game of baseball in general and also Clemson's program more specifically than the OP.

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I don’t feel that I blindly support Brownell.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:06 PM
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I think he is a good basketball coach, and I provide evidence for thinking that. I acknowledge areas that need improvement, and I have evidence for that. And I state program enhancements I feel that we need, and I provide evidence for that.

Others don’t care for him, but their reasons are typically based on “uhh he’s boring” or “he has been here 12 years,” with little to no evidence or context.

People are welcome to disagree with me, but at least I’m consistent in providing a basis for my opinions.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:21 PM
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I have always respected your efforts to discuss basketball from a different view than the masses on TNET.

I've mentioned before in threads that you soured with me to some extent when you drifted toward being snarky and sarcastic (common traits on TNET but not traditionally from you) in what seemed like an attempt to bring Dabo and football down in a way to prove some of your previous points and lift up basketball.

I respected this tactic much less than your valiant defense of Clemson basketball, which as you said is typically supported with a good deal of knowledge and information about the program.

It seems that with basketball season arriving you have trended back toward your previous posting style which I feel is a good thing. Hopefully this is something you will stick with and not give the impression in the future that you are being opportunistic about kicking other sports when they are down.

I am not invested in Clemson basketball enough to get overly upset or excited at the job Brownell is doing, and I do appreciate what you bring to the table since I don't pay as much attention to the program as I do with football or baseball and I occasionally learn something from your posts.

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JK has never been more than a BB fanboy***


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Jan 14, 2022, 11:14 AM
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It's a free country, I'm sure if wants to watch Monte Lee doesn't care, he might even ask questions. How do you know he's not welcome? If I coached the Football team, I would ask Danny Ford many questions about Special Teams, his style my be outdated but special teams responsibilities are the same as they were 40 years ago. However, I"m not an expert, someone should ask "Judge"....

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Tell 'em u7c coot. No one knows losing better than you.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:18 AM
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Jan 14, 2022, 11:18 AM
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It's truly amazing the trivialities that can push some people off the ledge. Jump! Jump!

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:21 AM
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No reason an old baseball coach can’t come to watch the sport he loves at the place coached. What your problem with this. Nothing else to moan about.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:47 AM
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Who cares? Jack is a good guy. He lives in Clemson and I feel great that he feels welcomed to come back and enjoy the games. That was his life, hard to just walk away like it never mattered.

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Jack Loves Baseball. Jack Loves Clemson

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:54 AM
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It makes sense that he would show up at Clemson Baseball games.

I'm hoping Monte works out better, but the last few years of Leggett (his worst) were no worse than the first few years of Monte. It is by no means clear that the move that DRad made (especially how he did it) was the correct move. No matter how many keyboard warriors wanted it at the time.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:58 AM
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Yes I have liked Monte but did expect better. Not sure how this deal will pan out but it is definitely no better imo.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:20 PM
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Great post.

Monte is very much on the hot seat as he should be. He was not hired to just make regionals as Jack was already doing that. He hasn’t advanced this program in any way whatsoever, and this season could be another long season. Hopefully some of these freshman can make an impact and turn the program around.

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Looks like there’s also a reason you’re at 30%

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:19 PM
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Leggett is there because he loves Clemson and did good things while he was coach. I think that shows just what a special place Clemson is. He’s welcome any time he wants to be there.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:32 PM
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There's a lot of things that should make us upset but I don't think this is one of them. Leggett is a great person that spent quite some time talking to me and my son at an impromptu meeting. He's one of us and should be treated that way, regardless of what happened when he left.

That being said, Leggett actually has a better post season winning % in regional, super regional and CWS than Monte. We now win the vast majority of our midweek games but that is the only positive of Monte Lee that I have seen so far.

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Jan 14, 2022, 8:26 PM
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“ That being said, Leggett actually has a better post season winning % in regional, super regional and CWS than Monte.”

Given that Monte has never advanced out of a regional at Clemson and Jack made several CWS, I think everyone intuitively knows this fact already.

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I think Coach Leggett sees himself as Coach Frank Howard

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Jan 14, 2022, 6:02 PM
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2.0. He forgets that Coach Howard did in fact retire instead of having to be fired and nearly physically dragged out of the office, as it seemed Leggett was.

Coach Howard used to joke that he retired "for Health Reasons. The Alumni had gotten SICK of me."

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he was a great recruiter, he could help with that***

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Jan 14, 2022, 7:43 PM
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Jan 14, 2022, 8:33 PM
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I find it more odd that he fundraised an entire building, but was never given the chance to use it.

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Jan 14, 2022, 10:03 PM
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NOTHING odd about that. He obviously still loves Clemson baseball. PLEASE stop trying stir up a story. This is a non-event.

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Jan 15, 2022, 2:35 AM
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So, are you saying that Danny Ford shouldn't attend football games? Leggett is no longer the coach, but he gave us a lot of good years and teams. Respect him.

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