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Game Changer [1635]
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Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 10:34 AM
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Our best RB wasn’t even recruited by CJ Spiller (committed to Tony Eliot & Mickey Conn). Spillers back are Jarvis Green, Adams, Haynes, and EZ (all whom haven’t developed and can’t seem to earn playing time). Spiller is a legend at Clemson but our RB room has suffered under his responsibility of recruiting. I have hope in Gideon but he’s a true freshman. Should he get hurt we have zero depth and desperately need a portal RB. How can we (Clemson) not have a decent RB ?
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Campus Hero [13404]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 10, 2024, 10:35 AM
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Looks like that will be solved next season.
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Ring of Honor [23988]
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Green & Haynes were 3 stars,
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Dec 10, 2024, 10:40 AM
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conventional knowledge points to them being ready by 3rd year on campus as RS sophomores. Easy E ,well,even the great ETN wasn't ready as a freshman against the likes of Bama. That's why it was so important PM came back.
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Re: Green & Haynes were 3 stars,
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:23 AM
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ETN is a legend and none of these backs can compare
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Paw Warrior [4690]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 10:56 AM
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I have heard that elite RB's are getting upwards of 650k to 800k a year for their NIL! Could we pay that? Maybe. Would we pay that? No! I don't see how this is still considered an amateur sport. There used to be a rule that if you accepted money to play you were ineligible.
But times and rules change.
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Ring of Honor [21642]
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Mafah was always going to be the guy this year
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:01 AM
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and up until the injury, he delivered. Haynes the primary back up, now he's hurt as well.
We honestly have no idea what the other guys can do. They were all just deep, depth due to Mafah being the clear #1
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99964]
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Dabo's overuse of a hurt Mafah was to insure he got drafted.
Dec 10, 2024, 1:03 PM
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It's part of loving his players and allowing that to influence his decisions. Mafah deserves every time they called his number!
It all turned out well so no one should be whining about Phil playing.
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Paw Master [17333]
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Phil has played like crap the last month of the season, what are you talking
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Dec 10, 2024, 3:58 PM
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about? How has it worked out? Phil is hurt and we have no experienced back-ups ...some plan
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Game Day Hero [4344]
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Re: Mafah was always going to be the guy this year
Dec 12, 2024, 5:29 AM
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Yes this was Mafah's year and up untill he got hurt he delivered. I don't believe anyone will argue that. Also no one can argue his heart. You can see him hurting out there and still trying to give 1000%. That's where the coaches needed to get another back ready and help with the load. When in the box score there are only 2 names carrying the ball (Mafah and the QB) there's a problem and that's what this post is about. Did our coaches recruit bad? Are our coaches not developing talent? Are our coaches making bad decisions? What is it? Something is definitely not right.
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:02 AM
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That is on dabo for not using the portal to fill our gaps. He thinks he’s been so smart…but now he is just hurting program.
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Legend [7090]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 10, 2024, 11:05 AM
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What starter-level RB was going to come to Clemson to be a backup?
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Paw Warrior [4633]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 11, 2024, 9:01 PM
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Why did ETN go to GA to split carries? Same could have happened here if we landed a good RB. In college football these days everyone splits carries. Work horse backs are a thing of the past. Our staff chose not to go get one because they’re stubborn
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Valley Protector [1451]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 10, 2024, 12:34 PM
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In God we trust.
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Offensive Star [308]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 10, 2024, 4:10 PM
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We didn't need a RB. Mafah was #1. Had a quality back up in Haynes. Adams was coming ong. EZ was redshirting so he only played in 4 games. Any games now do not count so he can play as much as the coaches like.
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Orange Beast [6350]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 11, 2024, 9:31 PM
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Only a freshman. Did you see him fumble the kickoff? This is what freshman do. Of not for #19 covering up the fumble the game would have been lost. We need to bring in a graduate or senior RB out of the portal while these other guys are developing.
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Orange Elite [5380]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:08 AM
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I thought we "liked our guys.........."
Look, I actually like our RB room. Maybe give the backups more PT t/o year to gain more experience. Same situation when we didn't get Cade more experience when DJU was struggling. Labrums don't heal themselves. Just b/c a young kid makes a rookie mistake, is it really better to bench him and continue to play Phil who is at best @ 50%? Results say no.
Better get EZ some work in next 1.5 weeks....
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Game Changer [1635]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:10 AM
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I think EZ has the highest ceiling and could be our guy.
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Legend [6838]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 11, 2024, 9:51 PM
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I remember when he committed Spiller said we got our guy.
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:10 AM
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After the texas game all the fans are going to be wondering why we haven't played ez all yr with meaningful snaps
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We are running out of things to complain about
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:11 AM
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when we are to the point of breaking down 3rd string RB recruiting.
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I hear you FM
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:21 AM
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I like the potential of the RB room. But when Phil Mafah rushes 17 times for 17 yards against an average Pitt team that SMU RB ran for over 160 against with 2 TD's, its reasonable to have questions.
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:29 AM
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but there is going to be a drop off between RB1, RB2, and RB3. That’s not a coaching/development/roster management issue, it’s the nature of the beast. From a roster management perspective, 2025 is when we need an RB, and we have filled that need with the #3 and #12 RB prospects in the country. On top of that, our third string RB hasn’t even shown fans what he can/can’t do and some of us are already complaining. Its bizarre.
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Orange Blooded [2453]
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Earlier comment what RB transfers to be backup?
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:35 AM
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That’s not how it works…you transfer to compete and possibly start and in some cases you play due to injuries ahead of you.
You are right, no one transfers to ride the pine.
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Game Changer [1635]
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Re: Earlier comment what RB transfers to be backup?
Dec 10, 2024, 11:42 AM
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This is Mafah’s last year (possibly last game should we lose to Texas). I think a transfer (a good one not just a depth provider) could have the potential to start next year. This would give time to bring Gideon along and also protects against injuries next season. It takes more than just one good back to have a great running game (rest through rotation). A elite back could easily come win the job for the coming season.
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Legend [6853]
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it would have been nice to start seeing the third string RB 5 weeks ago
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:45 AM
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when it was obvious to everyone but the coaches that Mafah was struggling
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Re: it would have been nice to start seeing the third string RB 5 weeks ago
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Dec 10, 2024, 12:58 PM
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our coaching especially on offense is very suspect!
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So you're parsing now?***
Dec 10, 2024, 4:03 PM
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Paw Master [17333]
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Were you OK with the way we have handled the RB position? Particularly once it
Dec 10, 2024, 4:02 PM
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was obvious to everybody(but you) that an injured Phil wasn't going to be an effective Phil
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Re: Right
Dec 12, 2024, 9:29 AM
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But, but, the magical Portal
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Paw Master [17333]
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No...everything is fine...Francis just told us so***
Dec 10, 2024, 4:00 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99964]
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Mafahs playing hurt, and Haynes was looking good until he got hurt.
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:47 AM
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I think you’re completely wrong about this.
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Game Changer [1635]
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Re: Mafahs playing hurt, and Haynes was looking good until he got hurt.
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:52 AM
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I would be so happy to be wrong. I want those guys to run wild on Texas more than anything.. but if they’re that good you would think we would have seen it come to light while Mafah was hurt. The reality is we need talent at RB and I hope CJ can get us some before next season. I absolutely love Gideon ceiling but I’m putting a lot of hope in a true freshman.
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Re: Mafahs playing hurt, and Haynes was looking good until he got hurt.
Dec 11, 2024, 8:59 PM
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Haynes looked good. Ez is an unknown cause coaches have ran Mafah like a pack mule.
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Dec 10, 2024, 11:55 AM
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The biggest concern is player development…Mafah has had to play hurt for so long now because the coaches can’t even trust another running back to do all of the other things… that is mind-boggling and warrants his firing after the season as much as his recruiting failures
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 12:25 PM
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CJ got to do better
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Hammerhead Adams
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Dec 10, 2024, 12:35 PM
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I think Hayes got the nod over Keith Adams Jr. due to being a change of pace RB from Mafah. Adams would be another slightly slower version of Mafah.
But, to me Adams was our best back coming out of Spring from the little I read/saw. I think Adams comes out and plays well next game. And folks will be on here surprised: except me.
Dude runs hard and angry! I don't care he maybe won't take it to the house on any given down(I think he can in the right circumstance). Just get 6.5 yards a carry and the rest will take care of itself.
People forget, this kid played at the highest level in the State of Georgia(who in my opinion has surpassed California in terms of producing CFB talent). Not as many, duh, but per capita Georgia puts out some outstanding football players.
Then he transferred with parents I assume out to Utah for his Senior year at least. Maybe Junior and Senior year! But, he and Mafah were 1/2 in 7A Georgia for RB before that transfer.
I think, if he's healthy and is capable in pass pro; he will help us tremendously.
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Re: Hammerhead Adams
Dec 10, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Haynes more explosive than Adam's no doubt
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Re: Hammerhead Adams
Dec 10, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Eze also played at highest level in game and dominated.i like adams for short yardage but man we need speed..Eze only one that has it now that Haynes is hurt,and ez dominated for a couple yrs,he is official
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Re: Hammerhead Adams
Dec 10, 2024, 1:09 PM
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Georgia i meant
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
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Dec 10, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Easy E is a freshman bro he still has plenty of time to develop. Hold your horses on that one. Just saying Go Tigers!!
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Dec 10, 2024, 1:11 PM
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Thank you
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Dec 10, 2024, 4:06 PM
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I think EZE can be that dude once he's given the chance. Him and Davidson will be a solid 1-2 punch and however they decide to use Henderson
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Dec 11, 2024, 8:28 PM
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The runnning back room is not disappointing, its the coaching. Clemson did a poor job with load management with Mafah. We have used him up and makes it almost impossible for him to be productive in the playoffs. If we would have used the other guys in the earlier games, Mafah would be healthy now. Also, yall trying to judge the other running backs and they have not gotten a chance to prove themselves in at game with meaningful reps. Jarvis Green for example was the Gatorade player of the year, MaxPrep 2nd team All American, Mr Football runner up and rushed for 2200 yards his senior year. He has only had 15 offensive snaps in 2 years. I will be supprised if any of the backs stay.
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Paw Warrior [4633]
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Re: Hard to believe how disappointing our RB room has become..
Dec 11, 2024, 8:56 PM
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Our entire team has suffered in recruiting. Since NIL/Transfer portal we haven’t been able to continue our dominance in recruiting. Don't just single out CJ.
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Whats worse is coaches dont have
Dec 11, 2024, 9:36 PM
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The intelligence to change out backs to throw off defense.
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