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Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 9:35 AM
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Watching the game last night, in the first half it appeared Bama's offensive line wasn't up to the task of moving the ball on Georgia. Georgia's defense looked dominant. Meanwhile, Georgia's offensive line looked superior after they came out throwing the ball all over the place in the first half.
Bama puts in a QB that can make every throw on the field and poof, their offensive line issues were gone. The Bama QB suddenly had all day to find open receivers and the running backs had room to run.
This year, we had basically the same line that beat Bama in the championship game last year. Like last year, they slowed our run game and dared us to throw it and unlike last year, we couldn't do it.
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Yes. We handcuffed ourselves with a 1 dimensional offense***
Jan 9, 2018, 9:42 AM
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 9:42 AM
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People need to understand that bama emptied the tank against us. They were running on fumes last night
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 9:45 AM
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I wouldn't say all the offensive line issues were gone. Tua made some great scramble plays when the pocket collapsed, something Hurts was good at but seemed hesitant as the game went on and tried to force throws instead of taking off. Plus the sack in OT.
But I do agree that adding in a QB that was effective throwing the ball forced UGA to not bring the house and stack the box on every play.
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 1:38 PM
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Agree with Tiggerz04. Bama’s offensive line issues were never gone. Tua just bought them more time and made them look not as horrible.
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You mean the qb that threw an int right off the bat?
Jan 9, 2018, 9:45 AM
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I'm sure at that point the hindsighters were calling saban an idiot.
20 mins later he is a genius. Again.
Sports.
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Reminds of what happened when we...
Jan 9, 2018, 9:47 AM
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wee ranked something like 5th in the nation with Woody Dantzelr and we went into FSU 3 point underdogs. They just loaded the line because Woody didn't throw the ball that well overall. I think we lost something like 48-10. We made it so easy on Bama. It was similar. They should bunched everyone in there. Ironically, Georgia decided to play into Bama's strengths midway through the 3rd quarter on. That type of offense doesn't work unless you're playing lesser talent imo.
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FSU was way more talented than us back in 2000...
Jan 9, 2018, 2:08 PM
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That’s why we lost that game, not because of Woody’s passing ability. In fact when teams stacked the box against Woody, he would make them pay facing man coverage
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They were more talented.
Jan 10, 2018, 1:52 AM
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That O only works vs less talented teams.
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I disagree with a lot of that
Jan 9, 2018, 10:03 AM
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1. Hurts was given plenty of time to throw and a decent pocket, but he got happy feet too much and would roll out. Tua played behind the same OL, remember the play immediately before the game winning TD pass?
2. Fromm made some good throws, but their run game was what separated them from Clemson's performance...and that came from the OL. How many 3rd and long conversions did UGA make by running the ball in the first half?
3. There was a considerable difference in effort and emotion from the Bama defense in our game to last night. They unleashed a whole year's worth of frustration on us.
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Georgia came out throwing it all over the place. They threw
Jan 9, 2018, 10:25 AM
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on first and second down often. They threw it when they were backed up to their on goal line and it was not expected. That opened up their running game, which obviously has difference makers. In the second half, they got a bit conservative, didn't throw as much on first down and struggled to run the ball and score. Their only score of the second half was an 80 TD pass.
Georgia threw the ball their first 7 plays of the game. They threw it 23 times in the first half and scored 13 points. They threw it only 9 times in the second half, one of which was the 80 yard TD.
It was definitely the throwing that loosened the Bama defense up in the first half. In the second half, they got away from it and weren't able to run the ball successfully and they lost.
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yeah...They were picking up 3 and 5s running it up the gut
Jan 9, 2018, 12:50 PM
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with Sony...we don't have a back that could do all the things he did
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Jan 9, 2018, 10:07 AM
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 10:08 AM
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I would not call it blame...I'd call it as being a team weakness all year though. Clemson had an elite defense, good running backs, but was not elite on the OL, which was not their fault. Clemson was lacking in experience and talent on the OL. Field goal kicker was also a weakness. When facing average defenses KB2 had the mobility to negate the fact that the OL could not protect the QB pocket. Facing an elite defense the pocket would collapse quickly, which proved too much to overcome when the receivers could not get open that quick. I do not know why anyone looks for someone to blame. If anything Clemson over-achieved this year. Considering how much talent was lost from the previous season, the fact that Clemson even made the playoffs was amazing. I would only seek blame if I thought the effort was lacking...I do not think that was the case here.
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The oline was loaded with experienced 4 and 5 star players...
Jan 9, 2018, 2:05 PM
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We have an oline coach that doesn’t teach fundamentals or physicality
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By what metric are you measuring the amount of blame?
Jan 9, 2018, 10:11 AM
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I think they got just the right amount, if it's equal to KB and coordinators. Tide played with a grudge and their best game of the season. Last night they looked normal.
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 10:11 AM
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Unless you want to shift a little blame to the play calling and the coaching staff, NO. I'm tired of hearing, "Hunter Johnson would have been our savior. Look what he did against Wake Forest." I saw what he did against a gassed Miami defense, and they are not Alabama. Georgia started the game with 7 straight, mostly quick pass plays, by a quarterback who was considered more of a game manager. Kelly Bryant had played his best games in the biggest games all year. It didn't happen in the Sugar Bowl, but he certainly didn't have a lot of help either.
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 12:48 PM
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I agree with you except Hunter Johnson’s play in those games. You have to remember that not only did they put the third string qb in they also put the third and fourth down ol and rest. Compare apples to apples. Hunter wasn’t playing with the starters like KB. Not saying he would be better, but not the same
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 12:41 PM
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Blame the running backs.
Look at last year's game and see how many times Gallman made a critical block to give Watson time to throw.
Watch this year's game and see the RBs were lost in pass protection and let defenders run past them untouched.
The RBs this year didn't do well in pass protection just like the WRs were weak on the blocking for screens.
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 12:49 PM
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Ask the Texans how a QB change can affect the OL.
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No, they played terrible the whole game...
Jan 9, 2018, 1:34 PM
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There have been play calling issues this year, but nothing in the play calling against Bama would have gave us more time to Pass.
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Big difference, last year the oline pass blocked good against Bama..
Jan 9, 2018, 2:02 PM
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Did a terrible job in pass blocking this year against them. Also we have a finesse oline, while UGA and Bama have physical olines.
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No....our OL had a really bad day.....
Jan 9, 2018, 2:09 PM
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Physically beat up. Bama played their best Defense of the season.
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Not NO,
Jan 9, 2018, 2:10 PM
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But HELL NO!
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Re: Did our offensive line get too much blame for the Bama loss?
Jan 9, 2018, 2:11 PM
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Imho YES
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