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Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:44 PM
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College football coaches are meeting in Charlotte this week, and one item to emerge out of the annual convention is a change to the transfer portal window:
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- In a unanimous show of support, Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) coaches voted Tuesday in favor of a proposal that would reduce college football's transfer windows down to a single 10-day period in January in an effort to preserve the integrity of bowl season and put guardrails on a system many coaches lament as entirely broken.
During their meeting at the 2025 American Football Coaches Association convention, coaches supported the move to a single portal window from Jan. 2 through Jan. 12, starting for the 2025-26 academic year. Such a move would eliminate the current portal windows in both December and April with the single, shorter window. The recommendation now moves to the NCAA oversight committee and ultimately the NCAA Division I council for final approval, which is far from guaranteed...
The January window would, in theory, allow players to conclude their season with their existing teams while still finding a new home early enough to enroll for a spring semester and go through spring football with their new program.
How effective the proposal would be in curbing December opt-outs and what the lack of a spring transfer window would mean for players remains up for debate, and will likely be a significant sticking point as the proposal moves its way through the NCAA approval process.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43413122/fbs-coaches-support-single-shorter-transfer-portal-window
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Varsity [103]
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Anyone that doesn't want to play a bowl game is going to opt out
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:10 PM
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...regardless.
Eliminating the December portal window is going to create tons of lawsuits. It will deny the athletes the ability to attend classes that start before the bowl season ends. That discriminates against athletes in contrast to other students.
Anything that discriminates against athletes compared to the rules for non athlete student transfers has already been shot down by a federal court in the Ohio vs NCAA case.
Any smart athlete that wants to avoid risk if injury in a meaningless bowl will simply opt out and wait until the proposed single portal window opens to change schools.
This entire idea is stupid. It won't accomplish what the coaches think it will.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101030]
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I agree.
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:49 PM
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It won't stop tampering so it won't protect the integrity of the bowl games. Suckit, network!
However, there may be rules adopted later which make this work. I'm thinking perhaps some type of tampering prevention. At that point the Jan window might provide for better bowl games. Maybe these coaches know more than us. Reckon?
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Ultimate Tiger [33069]
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:50 PM
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Anyone that doesn't want to play a bowl game is going to opt out regardless.
dat's true.
Eliminating the December portal window is going to create tons of lawsuits.
for certain. I personally wouldn't throw a brick in the ocean for fear of being sued. Every grease ball attorney in the US is just eager to launch a civil suit at colleges now adays because they keep wining them.
It will deny the athletes the ability to attend classes that start before the bowl season ends. That discriminates against athletes in contrast to other students.
why? when you jump in the portal you are off the team, You are not kicked out of school. You can go to classes all the way up until you have to start going to classes at the new school.
I don't think normal students can go all the way till Jan 10th before even enrolling in to a new school. You have to enroll by Jan 7th at Clemson. I guess The normal students could sue for being taken advantage of.
Any smart athlete that wants to avoid risk if injury in a meaningless bowl will simply opt out and wait until the proposed single portal window opens to change schools.
i think this is right along the line of the 1st point and the coaches are probably ok with this
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Re: Anyone that doesn't want to play a bowl game is going to opt out
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:24 PM
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I also agree. It doesn’t matter whether or not CFB fans would like for this to happen.
The FBS schools’ proposal interferes with the ability of a scholarship student to transfer when and where he wants to go as far as a different school is concerned. Notice that I didn’t limit the entity ‘scholarship student’ to represent just ‘scholarship student athlete.’ Both are in the same category as far as their ability to enroll at a new school in accordance to the schedule in which any individual school may accept transfer students.
My guess is that the FBS schools are engaging in some theatrical exercise to placate their collective supporters of FBS football. Kind of like Otter’s (he of Animal House) musings along the lines of ‘making some futile gesture’ to express Delta House’s expulsion from Faber College’s fraternity organizations, followed by Bluto’s ‘and were just the guys to do it’ call to action.
It’s all entertaining, even though it is a waste of time and resources from the FBS colleges to go down this path.
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Re: Anyone that doesn't want to play a bowl game is going to opt out
Jan 15, 2025, 12:28 PM
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Well at least it will be annoying. Considering the players could care less about blowing up rosters. All they have to do is put themselves in the coaches shoes…..I’m not saying they shouldn’t be allowed, but they have to cap that off with contracts or something.
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Varsity [103]
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The lack of an April portal window
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:16 PM
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Might actually accomplish the opposite of what the coaches think it will.
It might drive more undecided athletes that are undecided into the portal in January. That could potentially take some elite guys into opt out status prior to the playoffs, then jump into the portal on Day 1.
The coaches and the NCAA would be better off keeping the two portal windows we have now.
Even better, start the football season a week earlier, eliminate the conference championship games, and conclude the FB playoffs in early January.
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Let's get ESPN on the phone line here
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:33 PM
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They have the power to correct the overreach.
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Re: The lack of an April portal window
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:47 PM
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If an elite player, who would presumably be playing in playoff games, being elite and all, opts out of the playoffs, good riddance.
Hard to see why they’d pass on an opportunity to showcase/showboat in playoff games.
I know you said prior to the playoffs, but they’d have a pretty solid idea whether they’re making the playoffs or not.
I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m betting the coaches have given this some thought.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101030]
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Changing windows does nothing.
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:51 PM
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Tampering is the issue for both players and universities violate the tampering rules.
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Ultimate Tiger [33069]
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how can u enforce it when every 1 has an agent now a days?
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:53 PM
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you have 7 degrees of kevin bacon between the player and the money.
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Re: The lack of an April portal window
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:38 PM
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I agree with you again.
The current system of more than one (I.e., two as of this time for the Dec / Jan window) strictly defined portal window constrains a college scholarship student athlete from transferring to another school in ways that the non-athlete college student athlete is not constrained.
The rules of the college are the limiting factor as far as who is eligible to transfer, and when. Each school’s athletic department may have additional constraints, which implies their ‘rights’ to have specific portal windows.
HOWEVER, coordination among different schools (which in this case are semi-employers) as far as creating a ‘universally agreed upon’ portal window sounds a lot like collusion. Employers (athletic department administrators) are not legally allowed to collude against workers (student athletes) to create artificial restraints about how and when the worker (the student athletes) can go to his new place of employment (school).
Again, I don’t have to like this. My preferences in this matter are irrelevant.
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Re: The lack of an April portal window
Jan 15, 2025, 10:53 AM
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We don’t need to eliminate conference championships. They need to be part of the play off. 4 conferences. 16 team playoffs. Top 4 in each conference. More of an NFL style. Top 4 in each conference play each other according to seed. Then have a semifinal with the champion of each conference. Boom
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The G5 schools say that your maths are off******
Jan 15, 2025, 11:07 AM
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:32 PM
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Obviously, something needs to be done as it's had a very detrimental impact on the sport.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:38 PM
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This is a bit of a problem for schools in the south who typically start back in the spring around January 6-10th... schools up north or on the west coast sometimes don't go back until like the end of January, but man that is a tight window for these guys to get a commitment, get transcripts and housing, etc. all squared away.
One of the announcers said during the Ole Miss vs. Duke game that they should move the portal to one time only--sometime in April/May and then you have an abbreviated spring practice in March(ish) and then a second "spring" practice in like June almost like an NFL OTA. That gives guys the chance to see where they stand and if they don't like where they are on the depth chart they can leave and still get some practice time in before fall camp. Unfortunately there's no easy solution since they still have to work around the academic calendar.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:50 PM
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I’m thinking the academic calendar isn’t going to be uppermost in anyone’s mind, unless you mean administratively preventing the transfer, and I have an idea they’d find a way to make an exception.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 3:57 PM
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This is very true as the academic calendar was what was ultimately driving the current portal windows - crank it up at the beginning of winter break for most. This new approach largely ignores that - the timing is such to keep players with teams during bowls while allowing just enough time to join for spring practice.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 5:50 PM
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Which would be prejudicial against scholarship athlete students vis a vis scholarship non-athlete students.
Scholarship non-athlete students can transfer to a new school at any time within the new school’s administrative admission’s calendar. Those same scholarship non-athlete students can obtain outside employment (a job that doesn’t cause the non-athlete student to miss class and therefore forfeit his academic scholarship) whenever he wants. I don’t see how constraining the scholarship athlete student as far as his ability to obtain outside employment (NIL earnings) whenever he wants is not discriminatory.
Not that I like what’s happening to CFB from my selfish perspective as a fan. It doesn’t matter whether I like this or not. I’m also not apologizing for having selfish sentiments. My sentiments one way or the other do not matter. The laws are what matter.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
Jan 15, 2025, 10:31 AM
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Oh for sure, it isn't like some other kid who decided to transfer in right before the semester. They will figure it out for these football players. If they really want to fudge it to allow a player in they will. You think Miami would be like "nope, sorry $8 million QB that we just bought off another team's roster, you won't be eligible because you didn't transfer in time to enroll in class... so sad." Heck no, they're going to make it work.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
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Jan 14, 2025, 2:55 PM
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There are a lot of Holiday Inn Express customers in here!
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
Jan 14, 2025, 3:21 PM
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If I was commissioner College Football, I would implement one portal window, after spring practice ie towards the end of the spring semester.
That’s right, either stay for spring practice and the spring semester or drop out of school.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
Jan 14, 2025, 4:27 PM
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As others have mentioned it probably wont stop tampering and also quitters will quit regardless. Others have mentioned various school have different dates when semester starts etc.
so in other words its imperfect, but at least there trying to shorten it to a small 10 day window which i agree with. one small change i would do is make it january 21-31 as the 10 day period, just feels cleaner.....end of season , end of month.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
Jan 14, 2025, 4:40 PM
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The portal should be in MAY. And ONLY in May after the school year is finished.
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they need to vote on how frequently they can transfer
Jan 15, 2025, 11:10 AM
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and making them set a year after their second transfer
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Like Dabo say, add on the backend.
Jan 15, 2025, 11:16 AM
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Coaches pay buyouts when they leave, Universities pay buyouts when the fire coaches.
Now,I do think, the HC fired/quits portal should remain, if for nothing else, to take away the ammo for those "coach can quit " anytime the want to people.
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Why is it not in May, after the spring semester is over.
Jan 15, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Would seem to make more sense.
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Re: Coaches vote on transfer portal window change
Jan 15, 2025, 12:40 PM
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Great… that is exactly what I wanted to happen. That will help control the portal, now they need to control NIL and paying players.
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