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ACC commish weighs in on Playoff expansion timeline
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ACC commish weighs in on Playoff expansion timeline

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:42 AM
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ACC commissioner Jim Phillips is speaking to reporters this morning about the prospects for College Football Playoff expansion and he says the league's position is there are more important issues to address currently:

https://twitter.com/ADavidHaleJoint/status/1482028811894067202

The ACC's reported position is pushing for an 8-team Playoff instead of the originally proposed 12-team model.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:45 AM
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https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1482029280855011330

https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP/status/1482029207182098433

https://twitter.com/ADavidHaleJoint/status/1482029322265370625

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1482029925540503556

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:49 AM
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https://twitter.com/ADavidHaleJoint/status/1482030864934580225

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1482030890352054281

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:52 PM
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Replace the 5 Power 5 CCG's with 4 playoff games with 8 teams and we can do away with divisions and stay at a 15 game max season, as well as keeping the current bowl game structure in place.

Better regular season. Better post season. Everybody wins.

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:56 PM
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What if Clemson and a team from the Coastal both go 8-0 in conference play?

Then who wins?

It certainly can't be everybody as you suggest.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:09 PM
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TigersO said:

What if Clemson and a team from the Coastal both go 8-0 in conference play?

Then who wins?



Ummm....Clemson.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:23 PM
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For one thing, there would no longer be divisions as you wouldn't need them for the purposes of a CCG. However, if two teams were tied at 8-0 in league, the head-to-head and common opponent tie-breakers couldn't apply, so it would come down to CFP committee ranking as to which team would get that conference's automatic bid (5 to the Power 5 regular season champs). If both programs were undefeated elsewhere, then one is pretty much assured an at-large, perhaps even a top 4 seed still.

A great example would be Pitt and Wake this year. Both 7-1 in ACC play, no head to head, and a tie on common opponents record. Pitt, at 15 in the final CFP poll following Rivalry week's 12th game, would get the CFP nod over Wake, at 16 in that ranking. The Pac 12 regular season champ would have been Utah, ranked 17th.

The 8 team, 4 game seeding would have looked like this based on that pre-CCG poll...

8 Utah @ 1 UGA
7 Pitt @ 2 Michigan
6 Notre Dame @ 3 Alabama
5 Okie State @ 4 Cincinnati

In wildblutopia the top 4 seeds would host this round, it would take place the 2nd weekend in December (one week later than today's CCG timeframe), and the 4 losers would go on to play in NY6 bowls with the 'first four out' grouping, matchups and destinations determined the Sunday after this first round.

This would have replaced these CCG games...

UGA v Alabama
Wake v Pitt
Okie State v Baylor (rematch)
Utah v Oregon (rematch from a week prior)
Michigan v Iowa

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:36 PM
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The thing that breaks it apart for me is the idea that voters would decide a conference champion.

It seems like the idea of voters deciding a champion is what we are trying to get away from with expansion.

If you wish to cut some sort of title to get expansion with the same games:

Cut down to 6 conference games for every team plus 4 OOC games. Only play your own division each season in conference play.

Shuffle divisions per season based off of previous season's performance by separating 1 & 2, 3 & 4 and so on to the bottom. This allows for diversity in schedules within conference and probably more than we currently get.

All division winners make a 16 team playoff. 10 division winners and 6 at-large.

1st 2 rounds the higher seed gets the home game and then the semifinal and final are at neutral sites.

Teams that are left out are free to make deals to schedule an 11th game in their schedule and then those with the needed record will be awarded a bowl game to get to a 12 game season.

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Jan 14, 2022, 2:36 PM
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Voters wouldn't decide conference champions really, they would share that distinction for their league, but voters would determine which one gets the automatic entry into an 8-team CFP. It really only becomes an issue on the outer fringes or beyond, and that's going to be a thing no matter where the cut line is and however it's structured.

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Jan 14, 2022, 2:47 PM
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Actually Pitt would have made it in over Wake due to common opponent tie-breaker, against us. Pitt won and Wake lost, so it wouldn't make it to the committee ranking stage.

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Jan 14, 2022, 2:43 PM
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The SEC will never give up their championship game because it brings in too much money solely to their conference.

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The SEC is greedy as hail...they have no interest in what is


Jan 14, 2022, 8:45 PM
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best for college football as a whole...only in what will bring in the most money for their conference schools. They will eventually kill the goose that lays the golden eggs! They are only in favor of a 12 team playoff, because they figure most years, 5 or 6 of them will be from the SEC! And that is not good for the national interest in college football.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:51 AM
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https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1482031397212762118

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Agree with every bit of this posted so far

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:53 AM
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Imagine the rest of the alliance is probably also in agreement with most of this

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:58 AM
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But not for the same reasons.

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Jan 14, 2022, 11:58 AM
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https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1482032989462802436

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:03 PM
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He is spot on. Portal and NIL should be jobs 1 & 2. the student part of student athlete is going to be total farce soon. Colleges/conferences that believe in academics should not allow 'paid' athletes to participate. You get paid, go play for the NFL minor league schools... call it the CNFL (College NFL). The rest can play for the college national championship. YMMV

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Jan 14, 2022, 12:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1482034848936177665

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1482034350271172609

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1482034020569518086

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Being in the ACC


Jan 14, 2022, 12:24 PM
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Will eventually catch up to Clemson and we will suffer for it.

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Jan 14, 2022, 1:56 PM
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Good for him. He is using the only leverage that he has to try to reign in the craziness before dumping more $ in the system.

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Jim Phillips (not our beloved Announcer JP) is right & so smarter

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Jan 14, 2022, 8:28 PM
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than that UNC blue belly Swofford who didn’t do sheeet overall for the ACC since he seemed to be aligned to the Tobacco Basketball Teams even though he & brother were pretty good football jocks.

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Most important comment from Phillips in all these tweets:

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Jan 14, 2022, 8:52 PM
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Phillips says they support expansion but wants to address NCAA governance, federal oversight, NLRB, bowls, Alston — “desperate need for a 365-day review of all aspects” to create a “21st century governance structure” & “develop reasonable guardrails around NIL & transfer portal."


THIS!!! This is what the conference commissioners should be discussing/working on because if they don't get some kind of structure over college football it will end up eating itself...

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