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Re: And just like that market goes up 600 points.
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Apr 23, 2025, 6:43 AM
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Basically Trump is backing down on some of his nonsense and the market is reflecting that. That's great.
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Its good to stop p!$$!ng down your own leg. #winning***
Apr 23, 2025, 6:48 AM
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No market manipulation here***
Apr 23, 2025, 6:56 AM
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Re: No market manipulation here***
Apr 23, 2025, 7:03 AM
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It doesn't mean it is nefarious. It just means he is softening his stances due to the cluster F he was creating.
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Its Trump, always bet on the nefarious angle.***
Apr 23, 2025, 8:15 AM
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Re: Its Trump, always bet on the nefarious angle.***
Apr 23, 2025, 10:05 AM
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I don't think he is always that calculating. I think he just often wings it and doesn't know what he is doing at times.
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So the market is just based on words and no facts or math.***
Apr 23, 2025, 9:04 AM
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Re: So the market is just based on words and no facts or math.***
Apr 23, 2025, 9:08 AM
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I think you might be starting to get it. People who pay attention to markets call it “vibes.”
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it's all facts and math...Trump started a global trade war...
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Apr 23, 2025, 9:23 AM
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and put tariffs on just about all imports with little-to-no time between the announcement and when they took effect...then paused it to a lower level (that is still high) on everyone but China (and USMCA goods)...and oh, get this...China is now at 145%. One hundred and forty-freeking-five percent!
At the same time, he's trying to position to blame the Federal Reserve for whatever problems will come as the result and also threatening to politicize US monetary policy.
Those are facts AND math.
That's why when there's even a hint that he's going to walk back some of his asinine actions, the markets jump up.
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OK but you just explained it with words so boom you lose. You're welcome Keowee***
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Apr 23, 2025, 9:29 AM
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All the people I know that are in sales
Apr 23, 2025, 9:49 AM
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their sales are great. POS is up for them and shipments are moving. Consumer demand has not decreased. This is from soft goods to grocery. My bud who owns a couple of restaurants says sales are amazing.
I am down about 2.5% for the year. Heck, I have 17-19 more years to work. I am not worried one bit.
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um...ok...not sure exactly how that applies to the discussion here, but...
Apr 23, 2025, 10:18 AM
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we haven't seen the impact on consumer prices yet. I hope like heck it doesn't happen, but if the current situation holds for much longer, there will be significant price hikes across the board and it will for sure impact consumer confidence and it's already been in pretty sharp decline.
https://www.conference-board.org/topics/consumer-confidence
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as of March 25th, consumer confidence is gaining again
Apr 23, 2025, 11:18 AM
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which shows that your worry, due to your bad investments and gambling addiction, isn't driving negative sentiment in the consumer market....which is a good thing. I know its hard to say that something is good for you, but its good. Stop crying.
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Ultimate Tiger [34890]
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Well, no...the last index was what I linked from March 25...
Apr 23, 2025, 11:34 AM
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and it was down...not up. That's the Conference Board Index - Did you read it? That's the one most people refer to. This is the latest one and it's down for the 4th month in a row.
Univ of Mich is another one often cited. It dropped sharply this month:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/11/economy/us-consumer-sentiment-april/index.html
So can you link the index you said has gone up??
And what the heck does this mean? "due to your bad investments and gambling addiction"
And when have I ever had trouble saying something's good for me?
In other words...what the he1l are you talking about?
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The markets are speculative based on future expectations.
Apr 23, 2025, 9:24 AM
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Future expectations are influenced by geopolitical events, economic metrics, business results, sector trends, historical data, current government actions / policies and news of future policies.
Markets are attempting to predict the future with all current information. Erratic government policies inevitably result in erratic market conditions.
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Re: And just like that market goes up 600 points.
Apr 23, 2025, 10:21 AM
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His inner circle is about to double their net worth inside of a month.
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His inner circle are peons compared to Blackrocks, State Streets, and Vanguards.
Apr 23, 2025, 10:37 AM
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THEY move markets.
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Re: His inner circle are peons compared to Blackrocks, State Streets, and Vanguards.
Apr 23, 2025, 10:49 AM
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Foreign investment is pulling out of private equity, they are taking it in the bum, including BlackRock.
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Merely a momentary move... They aren't walking away from the coming ride.***
Apr 23, 2025, 10:56 AM
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Re: Merely a momentary move... They aren't walking away from the coming ride.***
Apr 23, 2025, 11:14 AM
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OK, you aren't listening, maybe I should clarify, foreign investment is moving out of the US. Until we change administrations and foreign policy. Whoever is unlucky enough to take Donald's place when he is shot, impeached, or chokes on a big mac, has some explaining and some serious arrse kissing to do. We know Trump is incapable of this. The entire idea from the international stage is to cripple America financially without taking themselves down. Have you seen the ten-year treasury yields? Everyone is pulling out of us securities, treasuries, and yes, private equity?
We are losing Bigly.
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