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I guess if we're getting off the Friends and Family Plan, that means
Oct 23, 2023, 7:50 AM
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we can't bring back Jeff Scott, right?
Just want to make sure I got all this right.
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Nothing wrong with the Friends and Family plan if the move is justifiable
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Oct 23, 2023, 7:52 AM
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i.e. Scott, Elliot, Eason, etc.
The issue is hiring coaches with little to no experience simply because of connection. Or handing out scholarships or preferred walkons to players that have no business being on the roster simply because of a connection.
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You only consider those names justifiable because they worked. Elliot nor
Oct 23, 2023, 7:55 AM
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Scott had any great creds to justify their hires at the time. What they had was a prior connection to the program, just as our current coaches do. Some worked, some, regrettably, have appeared not to. But, the criteria was no different in the beginning.
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Re: You only consider those names justifiable because they worked. Elliot nor
Oct 23, 2023, 8:08 AM
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I don't disagree with you but when they aren't "working" we need to do something. That said, Streeter wasn't working and we made a change that hasn't seemed to help much at this point and it was supposed to be a "homerun" hire
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You are wrong
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Oct 23, 2023, 8:12 AM
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Jeff Scott was a HS head coach and a WR coach at the college level before becoming WR coach at Clemson. He then had 8 years of experience as a position coach prior to becoming OC.
Tony Elliott had 4 years experience as a WR coach at the college level prior to becoming RB coach at Clemson. He had 9 years experience as a position coach prior to becoming OC.
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Re: I guess if we're getting off the Friends and Family Plan, that means
Oct 23, 2023, 8:15 AM
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Has Jeff ever coached anywhere else besides Clemson? Just want to make sure I get this right.
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Re: I guess if we're getting off the Friends and Family Plan, that means
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Yes. Presbyterian one or two years after HS state champion in his first and only year - at a new school.
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Jeff Scott has already proven himself at Clemson.
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Oct 23, 2023, 8:16 AM
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Kyle Richardson, for example, was just some yokel high school coach who was granted the opportunity of his career based on…what? And how is that working out?
Diminishing the accomplishments and success of Jeff Scott is a pretty lame way to make a point.
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Not diminishing Jeff's accomplishments at all. Just pointing out that he
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Oct 23, 2023, 8:36 AM
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WAS a former player at Clemson, and that his family had prior connections with the program through Tommy Bowden. If that is not Friends and Family, then what is?
The point is, having a prior connection to the program shouldn't be a detriment to hiring. But, it shouldn't get you preferential treatment when you have no experience, either. You could almost make the argument that the success Dabo had with Scott and Elliot is what led him to further hire former players back into the program. He just went a bridge too far with it, it seems.
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