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So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 12:05 PM
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Whitehouse, should the entire team not go?
Being a professional player and not going is different than a college team IMO.
I say everyone goes or everyone does not go.
I can't imagine Clemson visiting without Deshaun Watson, Wayne Gallman, Christian Wilkins or anyone else.
What do you think Coach Dabo should do?
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Re: So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 12:06 PM
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A lot of those guys aren't technically on the team anymore so they aren't as obligated to attend
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Re: So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 12:57 PM
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Dabo should penalize them and make them play for one more season!
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Re: So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 12:07 PM
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Yes, they go. Those that don't want to go can set himself apart from THE team. Apparently ALL IN has its limitations on who you voted for.
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Re: So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 12:08 PM
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So they're not apart of the team if they choose not to make the trip?
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Re: So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 4:53 PM
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Team means everyone, right? I guess it would be ok for them to kneel at the national anthem too.
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Lol.. so if 5 guys on "the team" jump off the Ravenel bridge
Feb 10, 2017, 9:24 AM
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Then they all have to jump?
Yes, it would be ok for them to kneel during the anthem.
I dont like onions, I'm certainly not going to begrudge some1 who does.
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It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 12:50 PM
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Under normal circumstances, I would tend to agree, but Trump is completely different. He is the price we pay for not having Hillary as president. Both choices were bad, so now we have to live with the lesser of two evils.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 1:22 PM
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How is it different with Trump? He is our President. Like all Presidents before him.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 1:50 PM
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Have we ever had a sitting President tweet his frustrations at a national retail chain for dropping his daughter's jewelry line before? You can't be serious. And I voted for the guy! I feel like a bigger schmuck than he is.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 4:02 PM
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Not defending anyone but only two presidents have had the opportunity to tweet and the first didn't have a daughter with a jewelry line.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 4:31 PM
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LOL. Trump needs to drop Twitter.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 4:46 PM
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Well when it comes to social media, we've only had 2 presidents with the option to use it.
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True but was
Feb 9, 2017, 6:03 PM
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True, but was Margaret Truman's recital made in China? All Ivanka's products are, including her jewelry. Like her Dad she's "Making America Great Again" by shipping AMERICAN JOBS overseas.
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comparing that to Donald Trump is not even close
Feb 10, 2017, 12:51 AM
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Trump has the temperament of a 5th grader that woke on the wrong side of the bed. Every day he's lying about something, ranting like a child about something on twitter, or acting like a baby.
Dude really needs to grow up.
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Wow!! Good for you sir! Seriously...
Feb 10, 2017, 12:48 AM
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I wish more people would swallow their pride and admit things like you just did. This world would be a much better place.
I'm as about as positioned b/n two parties as one person can be, so I like to think I'm objective and try to find the good and bad in everything.
I've had a real hard time finding the good, as more than anything I wanted to see steps taken to get the money out of politics and see special interest groups and lobbyist magically disappear. Alas, I feel like we have a 5th grade brat.
With that said, I have no issue with any players not wanting to go to the white house.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 10, 2017, 7:58 AM
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Look up Harry Truman's letter to the reviewer who trashed his daughter Margaret.
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To be fair, Washington was too high to tweet half the time.
Feb 10, 2017, 9:27 AM
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Cause Martha would always have a big ole bowl waiting for him.
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Re: To be fair, Washington was too high to tweet half the time.
Feb 10, 2017, 4:47 PM
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Dazed and Confused reference? If so, nicely done.
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Has a chain ever been so political as they are now?
Feb 10, 2017, 10:18 AM
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Certainly not under Obama.
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It's the White House. Doesn't matter if it's Obama or Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 1:47 PM
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 9, 2017, 5:55 PM
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Some of us would suggest we are living with the far greater of two evils. Hillary at least paid her taxes, paid her bills, didn't ship American jobs to twelve countries overseas. didn't lie about releasing her taxes and didn't make fun of the disabled.
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I will grant you she hasn't publicly made fun of the
Feb 9, 2017, 6:39 PM
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Handicapped and didn't lie about releasing her taxes from this past year but:
She used tax credits which were obtained by donating money to her own non-profit, which she controls the funds of
Like most politicians, she pays most of her bills with public funds
She was the one who started shipping American jobs overseas, as she was the largest proponent of NAFTA, which has been the justification for shipping jobs out of the US for over 20 years
I'm not defending Trump, but people like you who defend a woman who has been a prototypical slimy, flipflopping, lying politician is beyond absurd.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 11, 2017, 2:37 AM
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Trump didn't make fun of the disabled! He made the same gestures to numerous people both before and after his run for president where he made the same gestures in maching people for gravleing and being lost for words. It's not heard to loom up the video proof.
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Snowflakes will never realize we didn't need 4 more
Feb 9, 2017, 6:15 PM
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years. Thankfully Trump IS different.
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 10, 2017, 1:42 PM
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I agree that Hillary was bad -- but she's NOT TRUMP!
When DJTerriblepresident drives the world into a depression within 2 years, you will understand why the majority of people are scared to death. (He's the anti-Christ: a narcissist, a lier, a scammer, a business cheater, a bragger-adulterer, a con man, a self-proclaimed statutory rapist, and a poor businessman that's gone bankrupt 4 times and he probably hasn't paid any taxes in 15 years. Need I say more?)
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Re: It's different with Trump
Feb 11, 2017, 1:20 AM
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In all fairness and accuracy to your arguement - the Anti-Christ is supposed to unite people - albeit in a deceiving way, not divide them. Obama and Trump both are dividers, not uniters.
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This is my thinking also. It was a team win
Feb 9, 2017, 4:34 PM
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The team will make a decision together.
It will be like "Remember the Titans" where the team stays together although society tells them they should be separated.
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Re: So if one player from Clemson decides not to go to the
Feb 9, 2017, 12:07 PM
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I know Dabo shouldn't force anything on anybody. If he does, that's wrong on his part. So with that being said, if a kid chooses not to go to the WH, that's his decision and everyone should respect it... But you know the old farts and rednecks will have a problem with it.
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What if a white player refused to go because of Obama?
Feb 9, 2017, 12:09 PM
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That would be scandal and the player WOULD be excoriated!!
The hypocritical double standard is what bothers me. I could care less if a player goes or stays, though I think it is extremely short sighted.
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Re: What if a white player refused to go because of Obama?
Feb 9, 2017, 12:12 PM
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Tom Brady didn't attend 2 years ago.......
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And he WAS raked over the coals over it.
Feb 9, 2017, 12:17 PM
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There is a reason you see so many players in commercials(QB's especially) yet Brady has very few comparative ads. Expressing a conservative opinion or being a republican is vilified.
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Re: And he WAS raked over the coals over it.
Feb 9, 2017, 12:25 PM
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Honestly I don't remember seeing anything about it. Maybe a few articles, but I never seen people upset or up in arms about him not going.
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Brady probably doesn't do commercials because his wife
Feb 9, 2017, 12:59 PM
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makes more money than he does and he has no need for extra income. And i honestly don't remember Brady getting raked over the coals for that at all.
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Re: What if a white player refused to go because of Obama?
Feb 9, 2017, 2:22 PM
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I disagree with his decision not to attend. He has an enormous platform to express his first amendment rights, out of uniform.
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Re: that happened and the guy got very little criticism....
Feb 9, 2017, 12:42 PM
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Yea it's only a big deal when a black guy skips... Then he's racsit and disrespectful to this "great" country
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Didn't you know...
Feb 9, 2017, 3:17 PM
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Only white people can be racist.
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Re: that happened and the guy got very little criticism....
Feb 11, 2017, 12:51 AM
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Sup Alum, haven't heard from you in awhile . All is love brother! Hope everything is well!
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Yeah right..
Feb 9, 2017, 6:13 PM
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of course you remember when:
"resident Obama honored the 1972 Miami Dolphins this week, the only NFL team to complete an undefeated season (sorry, Patriots fans). However, three members of that team — Hall of Fame center Jim Langer, guard Bob Kuechenberg, and defensive tackle Manny Fernandez — declined the invite, citing political differences."
"Matt Birk
The former Baltimore Ravens center won the Super Bowl earlier this year, but refused to meet President Obama because of the president's support for Planned Parenthood."
"Albert Pujols, Tony LaRussa
Pujols and LaRussa, who both took part in Glenn Beck's big Tea Party rally back in 2010, did not travel with the rest of the Cardinals to be congratulated by Obama in 2012."
"Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards, Kevin Harvick, and Tony Stewart
The handful of NASCAR standouts all turned down an invite from President Obama, citing "scheduling conflicts."
I really don't remember any of these being big news and being excoriated over it!
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You're stupid to think that there wouldn't be a big
Feb 9, 2017, 6:27 PM
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deal of it made by the liberal press because it would be Trump. No way that Clemson should dishonor the tradition by not going.
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Re: You're stupid to think that there wouldn't be a big
Feb 10, 2017, 8:38 AM
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Why would it be treated any different? If the press was so freaking LIBERAL, why didn't they make a big deal out of these guys not going to see Obama and claim it was because he was black? You guys see only what you want to see and that is a bias that only exists when it cuts you.
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He will go with the players who want to attend***
Feb 9, 2017, 12:09 PM
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GO TIGERS!!
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If it were me, I wouldn't want to go...***
Feb 9, 2017, 12:09 PM
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I'd take the ones that wanted to go...
Feb 9, 2017, 12:09 PM
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no need to punish the rest of the team if someone chooses not to go.
They would be giving up an incredible experience, no matter if they agree with the current President's agenda or not.
These days everything has become about politics, which is sad.
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Just the climate we live in I guess.***
Feb 9, 2017, 12:45 PM
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No, I'm thinking that if a few don't want to go, fine, but
Feb 9, 2017, 12:10 PM
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the rest should go for sure.
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It should be something that is based on the individual
Feb 9, 2017, 12:18 PM
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I definitely do NOT think one player should ever necessarily dictate the actions of an entire group.
Those who don't want to go should stay home, while the others go to Washington.
Some Clemson players and fans would be embarrassed if the team did NOT accept the invitation ... and some Clemson players fans would be embarrassed if the team DID accept the invitation.
There is no pleasing everyone. Trying to is fruitless waste of time.
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Fair***
Feb 9, 2017, 12:45 PM
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Re:No big deal. Do what you want. Politics change over
Feb 9, 2017, 12:18 PM
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time. Most get more conservative as they get older.
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Should be voluntary for all involved. Serve Dipping Dots _
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