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Top TigerNet [31597]
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After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 11, 2025, 9:19 PM
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There are levels of wealth out there in this world that none of us would even comprehend
Something you don’t really think about when you visit as a kid (the last time I went)
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Every time I go to a big town, I have the same thought..
Aug 11, 2025, 9:20 PM
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Go Tigers!
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Yes, there is a lot more to life than Clemson, SC.***
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Re: Yes, there is a lot more to life than Clemson, SC.***
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Aug 11, 2025, 10:04 PM
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I dont believe that was his point. Enjoy your situation if NYC is it do you but it isn't for me and I have been multiple places and upstate SC is pretty nice and laid back.
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Ive been to Dollywood twice.
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Aug 12, 2025, 8:01 PM
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What an exciting life I’ve lived.
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If you like the fragrance of weed, urine, break dust, body odor and that grime
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Aug 12, 2025, 8:18 AM
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that is everywhere.
Not to mention crime, high cost of everything, the current political climate and soon to be commie that is about to be elected. It's great.
I've been multiple times. I enjoy it for the time I spend there. But that time is enough to appreciate what you have back here.
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Wait... Are we still talking about NYC? or The SC State Fairgrounds...
Aug 13, 2025, 12:46 PM
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before a coot game?
Oh yeah, has to be NYC.
No mention of seeing make out sessions in porta-potties.
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Re: Yes, there is a lot more to life than Clemson, SC.***
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Aug 12, 2025, 12:36 PM
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More isn’t necessarily better. I have lived in 6 states and the Virgin Islands and have visited many more states and other countries. Coming back home to SC and particularly the Upstate was the best decision I ever made. Upstate SC has fantastic weather and a wide variety of things to do.
The big thing here is that we are all different and what appeals to one doesn’t appeal to all. For me, you can’t beat the upstate of SC.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 11, 2025, 9:24 PM
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There are also levels of poverty that I can’t comprehend.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 11, 2025, 9:30 PM
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Not in Manhattan, unless you are talking about the homeless. But compared to most major cities, NY is very safe and pretty clean. I don't know that there are many bad neighborhoods left there, the property values are insane. 40 years ago, it was a different story.
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Paw Master [16160]
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Aug 11, 2025, 9:59 PM
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Pretty sure that safety went down when they planted the immigrant gang members in hotels all around town. No one would ride the subways with all the issues and attacks just a couple yrs ago. Pretty sure it has got a little better with the change of Mayor Adams taking more control.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 11, 2025, 10:14 PM
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The stats show that New York is one of the Safest Metro areas in the US per capita. And the origin of that story is when Gregg Abbit, Governor of Texas, sent immigrants on a bus to New York under the pretense that jobs and housing were waiting for them there, which was all BS. The city had to rush to find them housing because it would have been a PR nightmare had they landed on the streets. Undersold hotels are not a rarity there.
Although interestingly, we treated the immigrants better than we treated our own homeless, many of whom are veterans. And these were refugees who were here legally, or Abbit would have had them shipped back across the border.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 11, 2025, 10:51 PM
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I typed "NYC Crime" in google search and this was one of the first articles that came up
"Woman set on fire on New York City subway identified by police"
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facts are a stubborn thing
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Aug 12, 2025, 1:14 AM
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NYC is 5.3
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Re: facts are a stubborn thing
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Aug 12, 2025, 5:33 AM
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Depends on where you are getting said facts. To each their own but I have seen enough and would rather stay away personally.
Abbott sent them up there because they claimed to be sanctuary cities. Sanctuary city when they were flooding the southern border. Basically called them out. We see how that worked out for NY and Chicago. Sanctuary in name only. Pretty #### smart if you ask me.
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Re: facts are a stubborn thing
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Aug 12, 2025, 5:49 AM
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You just posted homicide rate. Not overall crime rate.
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Re: facts are a stubborn thing
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Aug 12, 2025, 12:40 PM
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This is homicide rates. Not all violent crime results in death. Data is an interesting thing. Data can be found and manipulated to support almost any point. I’m not going to waste time doing it, but I’d be willing to bet that there are crime statistics that are also factual that could be used to support the point that NY is dangerous. I’m just too lazy and uninterested to spend any more time on this.
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Clemson Conqueror [11137]
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Re: facts are a stubborn thing
Aug 12, 2025, 1:13 PM
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I assume Trump will be moving troops to New Orleans, Detroit, St Louis, Baltimore etc any day.
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That is remarkable. I had no idea it had gotten that SAFE in NYC.
Aug 12, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Here is a link to some crime statistics in US cities. NYC does indeed rate very well in a number of categories. Good on them - it's THE major city of the USA and I like the idea that it has improved to that level (the 1990s...not good). I hope this trend continues. We took our young children there a couple years ago and really felt fine the whole time...aside from Time Square having a STRONG pot smell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
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Re: That is remarkable. I had no idea it had gotten that SAFE in NYC.
Aug 12, 2025, 2:54 PM
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We went to Cherokee NC this past summer and smelled pot everywhere. Granted they do sell Mary Jane at the dispensary in town so that really ramps up the usage of it.
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So...that's 15-year-old data.
Aug 12, 2025, 3:12 PM
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Not saying it's wrong. Just saying I wouldn't quote it in a news report about America's deadliest cities.
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Hmm. And in other google searches...
Aug 12, 2025, 2:24 PM
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I typed "Gaffney SC crime" -
One of the first articles: "Gaffney man sentenced to life in prison for sexually abusing child"
I typed "Chester SC crime" -
One of the first articles: "Son of ex-Chester sheriff sentenced to 10 years for SC prison drug deals"
I typed "Seneca SC crime" -
One of the first articles: "Deputies: Man charged with attempted murder after victim shot in Seneca"
I typed "Moms for Liberty SC crime" -
One of the first articles: "Moms for Liberty Legislator of the Year Arrested for Massive Child Pornography Charges"
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Re: Hmm. And in other google searches...
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Aug 12, 2025, 8:19 PM
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Well what did you expect to find when you type
(Any city) crime!? I’ll take my chances in gaffney, Chester, S.C. over N Y.
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People have to realize that there are 8 million people in NYC, with 3 million more in the surrounding boroughs. We have around 4 million in the whole state of SC? I bet we have more gun deaths in a year by far than they do. When I went to NY, it was a safe place, and there were way more cops around the areas than you see in any city in SC. Politicians use big cities and immigrants for political fodder to scare people to get votes. When the towers went down on 9/11, Bin Laden thought it would destroy the financial system. It just made Americans stronger, and we bounced back like the winners we are. I from NC and a Clemson Tiger forever. I live in the Greenvoille area and love it. Everyone has a place in this world, and money doesn't always mean happiness.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 12, 2025, 12:32 AM
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You have been watching too much CNN. NYC was all for illegal immigration until they started getting them sent there.
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Aug 12, 2025, 7:34 AM
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Sure it's Texas fault. Typical liberal who never sees the cause of the problem. Who let all of them into the country? JOE BIDEN.
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I worked in NYC from 2013 to 2022 , rode the subway to and from JFK 2x a month. Never had an issue . Never saw anything more than the occasional mentally unstable person with their underwear on the outside of their pants.
This idea that big cities are embroiled in some kind of extremism at the detriment of their residents is laughable. The news media has really done a number on the psyche of a huge swath of Americans.
Go to NYC . Ride the subways. See for yourself.
Not a liberal , just a person who that understands not all that we see and read nowadays is based in the scope of reality.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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I was born in Hartsville, went to high school in Charleston and my working life was centered in Charlotte. But my father was a career army guy and I was lucky enough to have lived in many different places, including Europe, Turkey and briefly in NYC. I spent the summer I was 13 in Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn. I also traveled a lot for work.
It never ceases to amaze me when Clemson/South Carolina people talk about how awful New York or Chicago or California is and how they hate those places. To each his own. But such talk and such views always strike me as profoundly odd.
Those opinions seem similar to people who attended and graduated from Clemson and yet do not like Clemson football. I simply cannot fathom such mindsets.
Go Tigers, all of you.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
Aug 12, 2025, 1:15 PM
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There are some areas of Six Mile I would avoid after dark.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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I truly feel that the media is just poison for our brains now. One side is telling us how these cities are dangerous hellholes and then the other side of the media paints the entire south like it's nothing but racist, uneducated, trailer trash. If we all turned off Fox and CNN and got outside and saw these places we'd realize they're not that bad and nothing is as extreme as the media wants us to think.
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Yep. Ive really enjoyed my week here
Aug 12, 2025, 7:16 PM
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Yeah there is the occasional unstable person on the street but you just walk by them because everyone is just going about their lives.
And I mentioned the extreme health but there’s plenty of ordinary folks doing their thing too.
And at least the area I’m in, very high amount of young people (like teens to 30s) out and about socializing. Which is quite frankly nice to see and somethign you don’t see as much in the rest of country anymore outside of college campuses.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
Aug 11, 2025, 9:25 PM
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I have seen it and its crazy. I used to work in the Hamptons at a place where the poorest person was worth in the low 100's of millions. The wealth gap is growing more and more too. Must be nice.
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I personally know a guy that owns 4 compounds in the Hamptons and is building another 20,000sf house in the Hamptons just because. He boight a mansion and tore it down to build his 20000sf mansion. He lives in Manhattan 5days a wk unless traveling to one of his other properties out of state. He has ungodly money, its ridiculous. Worth way more than Clemson's Endowment Fund.
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Yeah its wild. Its insane. I was out with a buddy in Montauk maybe 25 years ago. We got to the outside bar around 4pm and got these great seats around a firepit looking over the harbor. We racked up maybe a 200 dollar tab with tip. Nothing major for there. Anyway, around 6pm these two rich couples showed up they wanted the seats we were sitting in. They could tell we were justbyoung.regular dudes I assume. The guy offered us 1k for our seats and to pay our tab. We said okay and went somewhere else. They dont care. 5k evenings are the norm for them. Its common.
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Aug 11, 2025, 11:08 PM
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My last Old Fashioned I bought in NYC a few yrs ago was $25, I had two and my buddy had a couple mid-level bourbons and coke, my tab was like $116 plus $25 tip, so $141 for 4 drinks. They have their taxes, service fees, credit card fee and it adds like 20% before tip. They can have that place!
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Yep. I went on a rooftop bar tour
Aug 12, 2025, 7:19 PM
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And our tour guide pointed out the top penthouse in the tall luxury Central Park building, which is available for purchase. For $90 million
He said if all of us on the tour (about 15 of us) pooled all of out net worths together, we might be able to rent it for a day.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Aug 11, 2025, 9:28 PM
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It is an international Hub for trade. The top wealth from all over the world has property there.
Walking down 5th avenue in Lower Manhattan and looking at the scale of the early 20th-century architecture is a trip, there's nothing else like it in the US.
When I was in my early 20's I went up there with a buddy and we ran into a couple of chicks at an outdoor bar and they took us home with them. It turned out they were French caretakers who barely spoke a word of English. They got to live rent-free in a 2nd floor walkup near Greenwich Village. The owners barely lived there most of the year. The place was utterly insane; it felt more like a museum than a person's house.
And yes, we got lucky with the French chix.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
Aug 11, 2025, 11:14 PM
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Hedge Funds and Equity Firms is where a lot wealth comes from as well. I know 2 Billionaires, worked for both in the last 8yrs. Both guys own Equity Firms, both graduated from Columbia Univ, NY and they graduated 1yr apart and didn't know each other in college. They run in same circles nowadays with their philanthropy stuff.
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They run around in circles?***
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I work in the city and work for an architect firm that does some of the most impressive homes/apartment in and around the area. The wealth is ridiculous.
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What blows my mind is the wealth on the coasts. From Maine to Key West,
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Aug 11, 2025, 10:17 PM
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what's that, a couple thousand miles? Same for the west coast, like from southern CA to WA? Then wrap around Fla to the gulf coast and AL, MS, LA, TX. Think about how many multi-million dollar homes there are on the coasts of the lower 48. It's mind boggling.
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You can have NYC....it's a dump
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
Aug 11, 2025, 10:45 PM
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For context, about 20% of the migrants settled in NYC during the Biden administration were facilitated by the state of Texas (~ 45k of 250K). The Federal government moved millions themselves including NYC.
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You don't need to travel 1k miles to come to that conclusion.***
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Re: You don't need to travel 1k miles to come to that conclusion.***
Aug 12, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Wow, thanks Captain Obvious
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I realize how thankful I am that I dont live there!***
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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Economic question?
Could this massive wealth at the top be from the country turning more socialist?
10% have most of the wealth and the other 90% are financially about the same. Very little middle class. Just asking.
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Re: After a week in New York City my take away is
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I have been to every major city in America during my life. I will take Clemson-Pendleton-Wild Hog-Clayton over any big city any day. They can have it.
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I traveled all over the US for business, for 40 years. From NY to CA and
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everywhere in between. I was never afraid to go out and explore the local areas. I wasn't gonna sit in my hotel room and watch TV, I can do that at home. Hell, I rode the NYC subways in the 80's, just to experience it, when NYC was still gritty and not gentrified. I loved all the different cultures, foods, etc. I walked the streets of every major city and was never afraid.
Yeah, it makes headlines when somebody is shoved onto the subway tracks or shot during a mugging. But 5 million people ride the NYC subways every single day. That's about the population of the whole state of SC. Every single day. How many people are murdered every day in SC? Just do the math. Similar to sitting next to someone on a plane who's scared to death. Dude, if you made it safely down I-85 to GSP, you can relax now, the dangerous part of your trip is over. LOL
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i am still here in ny , 30 minutes outside nyc , worked for the NYPD for 21 years and now a public safety officer at teachers college in nyc , can't wait till the children finish high school { 4 years } so we all can get the hell out of here , NYC is Truly A DUMP ! Dirty , traffic , stinks like pot , Can't wait to leave . Go Tigers !!!!!
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Holy crap! Hang in there and take care, one day at a time and keep reading TNET for your sanity's sake.
I was reading this comment bc one of my 3 high schools was on Long Island and we (friends) would take the train into the city. Of course that was a long time ago and I know things have gotten worse but hang in there until y'all can leave in a sigh of relief.
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My dad lived in Brooklyn the first 13 years of his life. He said he's glad he escaped alive.
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I hear ya TIP. I've seen it in various cities I've worked in. I see a little of it here every day. Went shopping with my daughter in Charlotte. When she asked if I was gonna buy anything, I said, "No. I'm just looking at some of the stores I would go in if I won the Powerball". Maybe I'm just an old boomer, but there seems to be a sense of normalcy with some people that I just can't get my head around. Or my wallet.
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National Champion [7260]
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After a week in New York City my take away is always
Aug 12, 2025, 3:16 PM
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how grateful I am to live in South Carolina!
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Game Changer [1624]
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