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Legend [6660]
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Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:30 PM
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Serious question...
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Hate to admit it
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:30 PM
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But yes
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Orange Phenom [15028]
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Re: Hate to admit it
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Oct 1, 2023, 8:10 AM
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the idiots on this site know no bounds
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Standout [226]
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When a bunch of 3 stars beats a bunch of 4 & 5 stars....Yes***
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Oct 1, 2023, 8:43 AM
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Pump your brakes, scooter
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:31 PM
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It's a long season.
However, very impressive turnaround so far under Elko.
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Orange Immortal [66993]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:33 PM
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Elko is already being considered for other coaching jobs, like Michigan State. So, yes, he is good.
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Rival Killer [2850]
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Wouldnt go that far
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:33 PM
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But they have a talented team this season. Nobody would beat them turning it over like we did.
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CU Medallion [20890]
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That's the thing
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:39 PM
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But they have a talented team this season. Nobody would beat them turning it over like we did.
... On paper, Duke is not talented. Two 4 stars compared to 56 Clemson 4 & 5 stars, and Notre Dame with fifty to sixty 4 & 5 stars (recruited 2020-23). So again, it's coaching. Not player talent.
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110%er [4043]
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Re: That's the thing
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:59 PM
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But they have a talented team this season. Nobody would beat them turning it over like we did. ... On paper, Duke is not talented. Two 4 stars compared to 56 Clemson 4 & 5 stars, and Notre Dame with fifty to sixty 4 & 5 stars (recruited 2020-23). So again, it's coaching. Not player talent.
Personally, I think it's a combination of the two. They've hit on some players in recruiting, utilized portal, and have a TON of upperclassmen starting.
https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/duke/90406![]() The most respected source for NFL Draft info among NFL Fans, Media, and Scouts, plus accurate, up to date NFL Depth Charts, Practice Squads and Rosters.
Having an older team is definitely an underrated thing and when you mix it with good coaching you can pull upsets and beat teams that technically pull in better recruits on paper. Of course, it's not the end all be all but it certainly helps when facing talented but young teams.
Honestly, if we consider the teams Clemson has lost or had problems with in the past years...even in the DW and TL times...they've typically been teams heavy with upperclassmen.
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Re: That's the thing
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Oct 1, 2023, 1:22 AM
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glennjamin182® ... No argument. Older teams can be hard to beat. True with Power Rangers and old Mormons on BYU and Utah. Duke is improved with handful of Portal transfers, and Elko has outcoached Dabo over 4 games. But macro picture, Dabo is miles ahead.
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Paw Warrior [4605]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:33 PM
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In basketball? Yes
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Clemson Sports Icon [56033]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
Sep 30, 2023, 10:34 PM
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Without a doubt!
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Considering their raw talent
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:34 PM
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Yes they do
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Orange Elite [5570]
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Absolutely***
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:37 PM
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CU Guru [1573]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
Sep 30, 2023, 10:38 PM
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Head coach? No. Offensively? Again, I’d say no. Defensively? No. Special teams? Yes.
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
Oct 1, 2023, 8:27 AM
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Defense no? Give me Elko over Wes all day every day
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Campus Hero [13128]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:42 PM
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Ok, name me everyone on staff that would be chased by D1 programs besides Elko. Maybe their DC but he is an Elko disciple and this is Elko defense.
Duke has a QB that will be top 10 recruit. Their players believe and are well coached. That said, Cutcliffe was a good coach and always found diamonds in the rough, not sure why he slipped so bad last couple years.
But a better staff, I doubt it highly. Is our staff full of D1 coaches, No! But we have 3-4 that would get hired by D1 schools but we definitely could upgrade a few spots too.
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Legend [6660]
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Now do our staff....***
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:46 PM
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Campus Hero [13128]
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Re: Now do our staff....***
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Sep 30, 2023, 11:10 PM
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GR, Eason, Reed, and Morris all would easily be hired by a D1 school. Wes was on NFL staff as analyst for Andy Reed and BV wanted him so hecwould be hired but not as DC likely yet.
There are a couple I would replace but not naming names. Duke staff better, not!
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Re: Now do our staff....***
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Oct 1, 2023, 8:49 AM
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If Morris had any decent D1 offers the last few years, he would have taken them instead of coaching high school ball and working as an analyst at USF and Clemson.
Wes worked for Bruce Arians, not Andy Reid.
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Starter [282]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Sep 30, 2023, 10:49 PM
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No. More experienced team. Especially offensively.
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Commissioner [1207]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Sep 30, 2023, 11:06 PM
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I’d say no based on the prevent to win defense. You can’t just rush 3 and give the QB all day to throw or run for a long 1st down.
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
Oct 1, 2023, 1:30 AM
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Ummm no...but they have a more disciplined team...who is playing at their highest level possible...see TCU last year!!!
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Letterman [179]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
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Oct 1, 2023, 1:58 AM
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18 returning starters and a possible 1st round qb from a 9-4 team makes you a good team. We are young at key positions. We will be just fine. Duke will drop off.
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Orange Blooded [2468]
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Re: Does Duke have a better coaching staff than us?
Oct 1, 2023, 8:11 AM
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No
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