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Orange Blooded [2224]
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Who becomes the #1 back?
Jun 25, 2013, 11:31 PM
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Is it Hot Rod? He has some limitations Could it be Howard or Brooks? Which freshman?
This may be the key to the season is the run game. If we can not find an effect solution then teams can key in on the pass. Luckily only USC,UGA and FSU can do that and stand a chance.
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Clemson Icon [27814]
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McDowell will do just fine. You'll see.***
Jun 25, 2013, 11:50 PM
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Orange Blooded [2224]
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Re: McDowell will do just fine. You'll see.***
Jun 25, 2013, 11:53 PM
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Could he be the every down back? That is key to morris offense as is TE which I am super worried about.
Hot Rod looked good against USC but that is just one game..... heck that is the game that matters. LEts give Spurrier a heavy dose of hot rob in cola.
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Clemson Icon [27814]
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He's going to have plenty of help.***
Jun 25, 2013, 11:54 PM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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check out hotrods ypc for the year.
Jun 26, 2013, 3:23 AM
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we'll be just fine. i,too, am worried about the te position. although leggett looked real good in the spring game, i am not sure how he will do when the lights are on, he seems to have real good hands and decent speed, what i am most concerned about is the blocking aspect of his position.
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Varsity [213]
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Steckinger will start. hes smaller but our TEs are meant to
Jun 26, 2013, 9:18 AM
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catch not block.
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CU Medallion [18213]
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Do you really think our TEs are not required to block????
Jun 26, 2013, 9:29 AM
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Really?
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Varsity [213]
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Let me clarify
Jun 26, 2013, 9:45 AM
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I didnt mean they NEVER would block but Would you rather have a Receiving TE or a blocking TE in our system. a Receiving threat for sure. I was trying to say to the guy who commented above me about Leggett not showing up when the lights go on, thats possible bc he is a freshman and come week one against GA i think we should go with the safer option.
IMO Steckinger will start day one bc of his reliability in the passing game and is the better receiver, heck he use to be a receiver. Leggett will no doubt contribute as well but later in the season its possible Leggett will become the #1 TE i think the ceiling is higher with him and his size is good.
None of our TEs are big enough to block at this time, last i saw Legget was 230-235? and he is our biggest TE on the roster but a true freshman who isnt known for his blocking skills by any means. I have a feeling they will use the FB or Eric Maclain as an extra TE/lineman on more on running plays and put our TEs who are meant to catch in on passing downs.
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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Leggett is also a converted WR...
Jun 26, 2013, 9:47 AM
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He was recruited by Morris as a TE but in HS he played WR. He has done a tremendous job of putting on weight in the short time he has been here.
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Please figure out
Jun 26, 2013, 9:57 AM
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how to spell a player's name correctly before you anoint him as a starter.
You'll show much more knowledge of the subject.
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Asst Coach [824]
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That would give the other teams a key on run vs pass
Jun 26, 2013, 12:13 PM
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no? I hope our coaches are working on blocking technique with ALL of the TEs. Because if they go with this, then Defenses are going to read that every time based on the personnel.
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110%er [5249]
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What limitations?
Jun 25, 2013, 11:51 PM
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Just curious
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Orange Blooded [2224]
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 25, 2013, 11:54 PM
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He is not an every down back. Not big enough or durable enough. He is too small. Situation back at best. We need the Davis or Spiller type for every down back.
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110%er [8681]
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 25, 2013, 11:59 PM
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He's 5'9" 195 that's about the same size that Ellington is CJ is 5'11" 200
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Orange Blooded [2224]
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 26, 2013, 12:03 AM
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Ellington wasn't durable. 5'11 is a lot different than 5'9. Lets be honest. Hot Rod is no Ellington
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Solid Orange [1370]
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 26, 2013, 12:18 AM
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Ellington was measured at 5' 9" tall and 199 pounds at the combine. Hot Rod is listed at 5' 9" tall and 195 lbs.
Hot Rod will be solid this year but TD will make an impact.
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Orange Blooded [2224]
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 26, 2013, 12:20 AM
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I hope so. I mean with our stable of backs the last 5-6 years just an ok back is not good enough we need that difference maker. We need that James davis, Spiller or heck Gurley or marshall. Without that it may bite us one day.
Hope not because Cali in january is very nice
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Orange Blooded [2253]
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 26, 2013, 12:34 AM
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And what do you suggest between now and 9/31/13 ??
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Re: What limitations?
Jun 26, 2013, 1:26 AM
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I'd be more concerned with 8/31/13
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Hot Rod is very similar to James Davis IMO
Jun 26, 2013, 9:23 AM
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He just hasnt had the opp to prove himself. he is very fast but a power guy with a freakish cut and juke.
However, hes still not a game changer like JD was. JD has that it factor Hot Rod does not.
I think Brooks or Dye will be the guy for us. Brooks is a bigger, faster back but has trouble holding on to the ball. Dye is very similar.
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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Don't see the comparison at all
Jun 26, 2013, 9:27 AM
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JD was a bruiser. If anything, you could compare him to CJ early in his career. Hot Rod isn't a power back, he is shifty.
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Ring of Honor [23072]
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Re: A RBs Height Means Nothing - - 5'8''--11'' is Normal.***
Jun 26, 2013, 3:22 AM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102349]
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HotRod will produce better numbers than AE ...
Jun 26, 2013, 4:26 AM
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due to being behind a deeper and more experienced offensive line.
The receiving corp will be better rounded and I'd expect Tajh to be more decisive and much quicker of the mind and feet.
These factors will make HotRod much more productive than Ellington.
The younger players will get their shots too.
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Rival Killer [2776]
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What boggles my mind...
Jun 26, 2013, 5:11 AM
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Is how you made it to "expert" on this board!!
Hot Rod CAN and WILL be an everyday back. He ran RIGHT AT Clownboy and ate him alive. Had we kept running Hot Rod we could have altered that score.
Is he Spiller, Davis, or Ellington??
Well duh....No! But is is plenty talented to take Ellington's place.
NOTHING about Hot Rod is going to "bite us". Either get on board with our new feature back, or stay away please!
Go Tigers!!!
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Clemson Icon [24719]
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Tyshon Dye. I can see him and Hot Rod having roughly equal
Jun 26, 2013, 8:52 AM
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numbers of carries by the end of the season.
One concern about Hot Rod is holding onto the football as his number of carries goes up from what he has gotten so far in his career. Another is, he's only caught 5 passes in his career. Ellington caught 59 passes during his career.
Ultimately, it's just a guess as to how he will perform because he has yet to prove he can be the guy.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102349]
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AE didn't work on his catching game till his Jr year.
Jun 26, 2013, 10:23 AM
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You know HotRod will grow some good hands this summer.
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Clemson Icon [24719]
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Actually, AE caught 11, 12, 22, and 14 catches in his
Jun 26, 2013, 12:45 PM
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four years for a total of 505 yards. Hot Rod has 1, 1, and 3 in his first 3 years for a total of 32 yards.
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Re: Wayne Gallman says hello. I wouldn't over look this kid
Jun 26, 2013, 8:53 AM
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he's going to surprise some people with his toughness and ability to pick up the playbook.
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I'm pretty excited about these freshmen
Jun 26, 2013, 9:08 AM
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For two reasons:
1) Obviously more quality talent and depth breeds more competition at each respective position, and adds to who we can give the ball to.
2) Tailback is one of the few positions in this game where a freshman can come in and have immediate impact. (James Davis, CJ Spiller's freshmen campaigns quickly come to mind) I'm not saying they will be outright starters, but let's face it, we don't run a single back offense system anyway so we need a quality stable.
You have to love the "style" of talent that we have on this team. We have flat burners at every position. Speed Kills.
Go Tigers
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Varsity [213]
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IMO I dont think we will have a true #1...
Jun 26, 2013, 9:16 AM
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between McDowell, Brooks, i think they will be our 1-2 punch. and Dye could factor in too depending on a number of things.
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the TWO BEST guys that can HOLD on to the football
Jun 26, 2013, 9:25 AM
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That is what separates Brooks and Mcdowell and when Dye gets in he will need to prove he can hold on at this level too.
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Game Changer [1680]
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Re: the TWO BEST guys that can HOLD on to the football
Jun 26, 2013, 12:09 PM
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I think it will boil down to which back does the best job of picking up blocks in the backfield and catching passes out of the backfield. IF the new guys can pick up the playbook, that would be plenty of talent for CM to use.
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Asst Coach [824]
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I think you are correct about the blocking in the backfield.
Jun 26, 2013, 12:18 PM
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Probably one of THE most important parts of the RB skill set and the one most likely to give Tajh time to make critical decisions.
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The #1 Back is the Back who can
Jun 26, 2013, 12:40 PM
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PROTECT TAJH BOYD!
If you can't pass block you're not seeing the field!
Also, the back who can hold onto the ball.
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We don't have nor need a #1 back. Hot Rod will get the most
Jun 26, 2013, 1:43 PM
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PT but Howard and Brooks and Dye and Gallman will all play and play well.
Leggett will likely win the starting job at TE and at 6'6" and now up to 250lbs he's a beast with WR skills. Personel is not an issue on offense.
I'm more concerned at DE and DB then anything on offense.
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