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What is going on with the SEC?
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What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 7:26 AM
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They have been in steep decline for several years now, and even after bolstering their ranks with blue blood programs like Texas and Oklahoma, are still unable to even make the national championship game, much less win it. The only correlation I can find, and I’ve studied this carefully, is that the SEC’s drop from elite status coincides with the advent of the portal/NIL and the SEC’s overuse of them. In hindsight, I think we are lucky Dabo saw the potential ramifications of NIL/portal before many in the SEC did, and as a result, has Clemson trending up, while the entire SEC is trending down.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 7:32 AM
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I don't know what's going on, but at least we don't have to listen to another sideline interview with Kirby Smart. For that, I'm thankful. Go Tigers!!!!

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Not a bad bonus***

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Jan 11, 2025, 4:43 PM
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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 7:33 AM
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Team chemistry is what they lack.
All year the defenses in the conference looked good because their offenses aren’t any good

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 7:39 AM
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They apparrently didn’t learn anything from us. It took years for us to recover from inviting those outsiders Miami and VT.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 7:45 AM
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Maybe they haven’t spent enough. The team with the 20M payroll is probably going to come out on top…

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I've heard another explanation.

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Jan 11, 2025, 7:51 AM
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The decline of the SEC is the result of the change in rules so that every school can now pay their players as much money as the SEC has been paying them for years.

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Re: I've heard another explanation.

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:06 AM
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Bingo!!!

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Re: I've heard another explanation.

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:08 AM [ in reply to I've heard another explanation. ]
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They had a jump on everyone else, with the bagmen and Pontiac dealers already on board, but the B1G has caught up in a hurry. 🤓

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I'm coming around to

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:16 AM
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Francis Marion® being a voice of reason on the Boreds. It was unsettling initially, but given the preponderance of too-wat waffles that roam the Bored halls, it's actually welcoming. Not necessarily reassuring, but welcoming... ;)

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Re: I've heard another explanation.

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Jan 11, 2025, 1:21 PM [ in reply to I've heard another explanation. ]
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bretfsu® said:

The decline of the SEC is the result of the change in rules so that every school can now pay their players as much money as the SEC has been paying them for years.





This is actually true, i call it muddying the waters, or dirty deeds done dirt expensive, the good book calls it the "mystery of lawlessness"..........aka everyone is getting away with it, might as well.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:24 AM
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I'm stuck with the nagging feeling of "what value do we get out of the ACC?"

Let alone a conference?

Jeez Louise.

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Their best team lost their QB before the playoffs.***

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:25 AM
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Shocked that the CFP committee admitted UGA knowing their starting QB

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Jan 11, 2025, 10:32 AM
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was out, considering the forecasting precedent they set last year with FSU under a similar scenario.

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Re: Shocked that the CFP committee admitted UGA knowing their starting QB

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Jan 11, 2025, 10:38 AM
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Rather ironic, isn’t it?

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Committee had no choice, auto-qualifiers.

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Jan 11, 2025, 4:50 PM [ in reply to Shocked that the CFP committee admitted UGA knowing their starting QB ]
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But you knew that.

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Well, they did win their conf...never mind.

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Jan 12, 2025, 7:58 PM [ in reply to Their best team lost their QB before the playoffs.*** ]
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Saved by the automatic bid.

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SEC teams are losing depth due to the portal

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:38 AM
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In the past team like Alabama, Tennessee and others replaced one 5 star with another. Now those 5 and 4 stars realize they can make it to the NFL no matter where they play college ball. Also they are leaving for paydays. Every team some limit to funds available for nil payouts.

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Saban retired.***

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:53 AM
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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 8:55 AM
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Parity. Portal has evened the playing field. Bama, UGa can’t hoard players. SEC teams beat each other up during the regular season. Proud that Clemson offense showed some fight vs great Texas D. Klubnik improved dramatically over last season. Hope a change of leadership on D will restore the edge. Gotta stop the run first. Somehow Wes lost sight of that fundamental. Excited for next season.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 9:06 AM
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I believe the phrase is, "They are cycling out."

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SEC teams have been paying players for over half a century now.

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Jan 11, 2025, 9:36 AM
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The NIL made paying players an legal and the SEC just lost the advantage.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 10:10 AM
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That’s it FM. The deep pocket private money NIL does not exist in SEC country like it does at some of these other programs. If Cal and Stanford got serious about football, they have more billionaire alumni than all of the SEC combined.

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NIL is the SECs parity death knell!***

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Re: NIL is the SECs parity death knell!***

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Jan 11, 2025, 1:11 PM
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Transfer Portal has brought about equity in college sports.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 4:55 PM
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SEC is still good, but they are starting to get outbid for top tier talent. You'll start to see guys go elsewhere for a bigger bag.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 11, 2025, 4:57 PM
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I agree with you
But should it be called cycling out and we are cycling in ?
Just sayin
🚲🛴🦽🛵

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The Dallas Cowboys haven't won or even been near a Super Bowl in

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Jan 12, 2025, 3:04 PM
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about 30 years, despite having the most money, the undying support of a rabid fan base, cutting edge facilities, stable ownership, and world-class marketing and licensing.

The one thing they don't have?

Dabo Swinney.

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Re: The Dallas Cowboys haven't won or even been near a Super Bowl in

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Jan 12, 2025, 3:29 PM
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Harbaugh they should’ve got him.

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Re: The Dallas Cowboys haven't won or even been near a Super Bowl in

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Jan 12, 2025, 6:24 PM
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Definitely. Maybe he wouldn't have like Jerry Jones influencing things so much though.

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They could resurrect Vince Lombardi

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Jan 14, 2025, 10:32 AM [ in reply to Re: The Dallas Cowboys haven't won or even been near a Super Bowl in ]
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and it wouldn't matter as long as Jerruh's calling all the shots.

Jimmy Johnson built the teams that won Jerruh's rings for him, but Jerruh decided he knew more about football than Jimmy and everyone else for that matter.

And it's been that way ever since.

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SEC decline?

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Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 AM
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They got 3 teams in the playoffs. That's more than any other conference except the BIG.

If that's a decline, pretty much any conference except the BIG would take it.

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Sorry to be that guy but youre wrong

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Jan 14, 2025, 10:57 AM
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The ACC had Clemson, SMU and Noter Dame. That’s 3 teams as well.

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Why can't you get this through your thick skull

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:07 AM
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https://theacc.comIstandings.aspx?path=football

Notre Dame is not in the ACC in football.

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Yes they are

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:18 AM
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Hth

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Re: Yes they are


Jan 14, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Open the link A** jat

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You seem overly emotional


Jan 14, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Did Aunt Flow just come for a visit?

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Re: You seem overly emotional


Jan 14, 2025, 11:48 AM
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Just hate idiots. You have been provided sufficient proof that shows you are wrong yet you continue to spout nonsense

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2020 wasnt that long ago

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:52 AM
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you should go back and look at who played in the ACCCG that year. I was there and saw it with my own eyes.

What’s next…you going to tell me that Beaux Collins and Riley Leonard aren’t ACC football players? Want to know what team they play for?

As Dabo says when playing checkers, check mate.

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:54 AM
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You are an idiot. End of story.

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We can all agree with you on that.***

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Jan 14, 2025, 1:00 PM
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Jan 14, 2025, 11:54 AM [ in reply to 2020 wasnt that long ago ]
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You are an idiot. End of story.

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We can all agree with you on that.***

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Re: Yes they are


Jan 14, 2025, 11:26 AM [ in reply to Yes they are ]
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So from 25% of the CFP field in round 1

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:11 AM [ in reply to SEC decline? ]
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to 0% in round 4.

If that's not a decline, I don't know what is.

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"Portal overuse"???

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Jan 14, 2025, 10:54 AM
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Like Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, Notre Dame, Arizona State, SMU, etc did?

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Lol

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:22 AM
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Ohio State: Was making the playoffs prior to this season.
Oregon: Blown out.
Penn State: Lost to ACC Conference member Notre Dame. Coaching staff fleeing for ACC.
Notre Dame: Made playoffs prior to this season.
Arizona State: Lost their first playoff game.
SMU: Blown out

I’m not sure your examples are helping your case.




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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:07 AM
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hope you are right and we will find out because LSU is looming and signed a great class and the number 1 portal class. they will come to Clemson with a loaded roster this year! I think we had more needs than just 3 portal signees but time will tell.

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Trending up?

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:10 AM
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Help me understand this Clemson trend you talk about? If you lost every game to a conference that is trending down....

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^ SEC bot account

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:14 AM
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Don’t be fooled tiger fans.

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Agree. It is NotaFan***

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:25 AM
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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:12 AM
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Another message board geniuses post?

I understand your humor and respect it

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:12 AM
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Another message board geniuses post?

I understand your humor and respect it

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Was thinking the same thing.

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:23 AM
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I am sure cutigerbob® will keep us informed of the situation on the X and MBG.

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?

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Jan 14, 2025, 11:12 AM
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Another message board geniuses post?

I understand your humor and respect it

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Re: What is going on with the SEC?


Jan 14, 2025, 11:16 AM
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You do have to wonder about the future of the SEC. All good things come to an end. Today is my birthday so I will use this analogy. They kind of reminds me Chuck E. Cheese pizza. That place was so great when I was a kid, but now it's just a shell of it's former self. The stuffed robots barely work, the video games aren't modern enough, and nobody is there. Now everyone goes to Dave and Buster's. The SEC needs to get with the times or I just don't see how it will work for them in the long haul. I am not saying it is too late by any means, but it is obvious that the SEC is at a crossroads.

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