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New University of Tennessee admission policy.....
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In the great southward migration of college students over the past few Covid years, Tennessee, just like Clemson, Auburn, UGA, and just about every other southern school started getting a deluge of applicants....I've posted the articles before, how Muffy from New York who normally would have gone to Colgate now saw a Southern Honors College as an attractive proposition.....anyways, just like it's done at Clemson, this led to a lot of top students in Tennessee not getting admitted when it would have normally been a shoo-in.
So, the state enacted a new guaranteed admission policy here for in-state students if you apply for early decision and meet one of the following two criteria:
-Be among the Top 10% of their high school class
-Have a calculated UT Core GPA of 4.0 or higher
Given that it's our tax dollars going to support the state schools, and it's presumably the school's duty first and foremost to educate the students of their given state, this seems really reasonable, if not obvious to me.
Any chance of good old Clemson doing something like this?
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Scars doing it
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Saw an interesting stat the other day.
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In 1997, only 13 percent of USC students were out of state. Clemson was 32%
For 2022, that number was upper 30's for USC and 48% for Clemson. That's insane to me, that at CU, 1 out of every 2 people you pass on campus isn't from South Carolina.
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seems like a land grant school like Clemson has a mission to
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Sep 27, 2023, 8:46 AM
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benefit South Carolina. Sorta like how SC lottery money doesn't benefit out of state students.
Clemson makes a lot more money on the out-of-staters.
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That's my thought too as I posted this.
Sep 27, 2023, 8:48 AM
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I'm not saying it needs to be as extreme as UNC's "only 10% of students can be out of state" legislative requirement (although they seem to be doing just fine with that in place), but some sort of happy medium so that a top SC student isn't getting a bridge program acceptance letter.
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Looks like Greenr's kids are going to end up being
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Sep 27, 2023, 8:53 AM
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Tarheels which I can 100% accept over Wolfpack.
Hopefully I get a Mountaineer just for a reason to visit Boone.
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TigerNet Immortal [176611]
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IMHO, two of the biggest bargains in the country
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Sep 27, 2023, 9:09 AM
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When it comes to high quality academics are being an in-state student at UNC or UF. You could do a lot worse.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52837]
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worked out great for UNC athletes.
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got a high quality academic education without even going to class.
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Perhaps
Sep 27, 2023, 9:17 AM
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And it’s fun joke fodder, but it’s not the norm for a typical student experience there.
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Ever talk to a UNC fan?
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Sep 27, 2023, 9:22 AM
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They swear that never happened, and pretend to not know anything about it.
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Sending out the holelight to the
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biggest apologist of them all
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Tiger Spirit [9149]
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still rent free?
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living in your head. that is
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That's the absolute dumbest, sophomoric response in all
Sep 27, 2023, 4:36 PM
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of message boards.
But nice try, narcissist.
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LOL must have struck a nerve
Sep 27, 2023, 7:48 PM
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truth hurts?
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UF in state acceptance rate is lower than the out of state
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acceptance.
That said, KMS is praying that daughter of wants to go there and not Clemson. Free vs 50k/yr, no brainer. It'll probably be 60k by them time she's in college.
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TigerNet Immortal [176611]
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I was just talking about the cost of attendance.
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In-state Florida tuition for good students is crazy good.
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Yeah, basically if you are smart enough to get in you
Sep 27, 2023, 9:40 AM
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probably earned a Bright Futures scholarship (100 percent tuition paid).
That said, I hate UF but that vs. 200-300k for a bachelor's at Clemson.... GO GATOR!!!!
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I went to UNC for undergrad.
Sep 27, 2023, 9:53 AM
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Great school and the classes were really tough. I never once went to a football game though and the basketball games were basically a lottery to even get tickets.
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Re: Saw an interesting stat the other day.
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Loved my time at Clemson and the friendships I made there, but probably wouldn't be my school of choice at this point.
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It's gotten to the point where you have to ask if
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it's worth it.
If you have gobs of cash and want the prince/princess to really have that experience, go ahead.
If you look at it from a more pragmatic approach, juice ain't worth the squeeze. CU is TIGHT with handing out schollies. Far more schools with similarish edumacations can be had at a fraction of the CU price point.
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Yep, and thats the other thing
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I’m sure it’s a nice place to spend some time and a good education, so no offense whatsoever to fellow lungers with kids there, but with all the changes in a short time, I’m not even sure what “that experience” is.
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And we've I think texted about this before, but it's
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Sep 27, 2023, 10:20 AM
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unfugging believable what good students can get for they pesos at other Unis.
Take a kid with very good grades and test scores. Full admittance to CU, and full price less whatever lotto money or palmetto scholar or outside schoolies they can get.
Same kid goes to a private liberal arts school with a $70k/yr price tag darn near for free. Or goes out of state to an Alabama or something and pays half or less than at CU.
The thing is, this ain't gonna change until the market changes it. Demand has to slow, and it's actually trending in the opposite direction.
I SMH and ask how some of these peeps do it. They have decent jobs and all that but driving a $100k pickup and sending Johnny to CU at full price driving a Range Rover doesn't make sense to me. I'm convinced a lot of these folks are getting generational help aka grandma/grandpa are subsidizing them.
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Re: And we've I think texted about this before, but it's
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Compound interest/earnings on a generational level is hard to beat.
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I'm guessing it's not a school-level decision,
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i.e., not the BOT making that call, but rather state legislators.
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Oh for sure, but here in TN it's seriously interwoven
Sep 27, 2023, 8:45 AM
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with the Haslams being at the center of both.
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One of my husband's cousins married his granddaughter
Sep 27, 2023, 9:18 AM
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and one of the granddaughters went to Clemson soooo
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Of course they did.
Sep 27, 2023, 9:20 AM
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They could afford it.
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If they do it
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Sep 27, 2023, 8:47 AM
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funding better be there. Schools making a lot off of the out of state students and the funding for in state is very low these days.
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Or, Clemson could hit the pause button
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on the hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent in a decades-long building campaign and actually work to a real budget.
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Gotta stay current.
Sep 27, 2023, 8:55 AM
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And believe me, they have a real budget.
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When you are rejecting a ton of very qualified students, you
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can probably cut back on the luxury dorms without much material impact.
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Man, I have strong opinions on this
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especially knowing Clemson is a land grant university. I was appalled when they literally bragged about how high their rejection rate was, even including the fact that the out of state student population has increased.
Personally I lay the blame squarely at the feet of Tom Winkopp
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I love the selective application of free-market principles
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...in red states.
To answer your question, no, that likely won't happen at Clemson because Clemson only receives 12% of its revenue from the state, and that's been declining for decades, because of the free market driving up costs, and changing student demographics. It's high time republicans here in SC step in and throw a wrench in the free markets regarding colleges. Wait, they don't have the leverage (money) to do that anymore because of the free market.
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But does UT get that much more from their state than
Sep 27, 2023, 8:56 AM
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Clemson does from the State of South Carolina?
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State of Tenn. provides 38% of revenue at UT. See how that
Sep 27, 2023, 9:02 AM
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works. In SC the state legislature would have to raise taxes, to spend more on Clemson to offset the loss of revenue by allowing in more students from SC, over northern students with more money.
It would not be a huge step for Clemson to just go private. And I would suspect that if the state tried to force or leverage their 12% with this type of rule, Clemson would be better off going private, and likely would.
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If you read my post thoroughly you would
Sep 27, 2023, 9:06 AM
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Understand that your free market jab is moot. A significant portion of funding is coming from state residents and most of these schools, particularly land grant ones, were founded with the mission of educating that state’s students first and foremost.
State taxpayers funding a relative bargain-priced education for Northern students has nothing to do with the free market.
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Those universities were once beholden to the state also
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As UT currently is. Clemson is not in that position anymore. If the state of SC wants to keep that original mission, they should have kept up funding, but that requires raising taxes, which loses elections, which is why it is what it is.
I'm sure you may have noticed just a few changes on campus in the past 2 decades. As state funding (and influence) dwindled during that very period, what happened? Just stroll around campus at the next football game. All that "stuff" that's new and shiny, that's not from the state of SC funding, I promise.
The State of Tennessee still has leverage at UT. A couple of good investments, in just a year, and Clemson can completely offset all state revenue.
I know if the state of SC tried to leverage their 12% funding to force a quota on SC students, they know Clemson is better off going private. Now if the state steps up, and increases funding to say 30% (again) or more (again), they can buy more leverage, but that would cost the taxpayers in SC a LOT of money.
Let the free market run, or pay more taxes, that's the choice.
Which is why this is an interesting conundrum for conservative states to be in. They're not used to it.
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You're cherry-picking your free market principles.
Sep 27, 2023, 9:29 AM
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Once govt has subsidized something, a thumb has been put on the scale, and the free market is out the window, as an expectation is there in return for that funding. Clemson wants to go private? Ok, let’s have a free market debate then, but until then, this ain’t that.
As for the insanely unnecessary and extravagant building kick we have been on? That’s been financed by both traditional debt AND state issued bonds. I don’t understand, particularly from you, treating our massive outlays as a school (for both construction and admin salaries) as something that is a fixed component of the budget that cannot be changed, with the only real variable being tuition and state intakes.
We could absolutely chill the F out on construction, cut the massive fat from our personnel costs, and do very nicely financially while serving more in-state students with zero change in state funding. If anything, that’s the free market at work here.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108439]
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Show me the college that opted to cut expenses?
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Or the politician for that matter. Businesses, like universities always chase revenue. And they're very good at it. Why would Clemson opt to lose 20% of revenue passing a policy to appease a dwindling source of only 12% of their funding?
I argue the building spree, and increased salaries are NOT a result of the state of SC spending more, but less on colleges. Clemson was long ago forced to take care of itself, as funding from the state has dwindled for decades now. The state can surely step up, but don't expect Clemson to step down.
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Well no, theyre actually horrible at it.
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Most of them have spent at levels that have outpaced revenues, which is why we have a massive cost of education reckoning that is coming sooner than later. I’d love for Clemson to get ahead of the problem, but it seems that they subscribe to the same ideal you’re espousing, that everyone else is, so we have to as well.
Once again, in this very thread, you act like tuition revenue and state funding are the only ways to balance the budget. It’s asinine. Expenditures can absolutely positively be cut at CU with little to zero impact on tuition, revenues, or quality of education. Everyone wants to pretend the luxury college arms race is a mandatory given though.
https://www.jamesgmartin.center/2023/09/how-much-do-north-carolinas-universities-spend/
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They nearly are right now as it is.
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And a push like this in the SC legislature, to change student demographics, would entail a loss of greater than the 12% the state chips in. I would expect Clemson would need to recieve north of 25-30% of current revenue, from the state, to opt for accepting this type of edict from the state. 12% ain't going to buy a level of control to make what happened at UT possible at Clemson.
The bigger question is this, are SC voters on board with a tax increase to keep Clemson on its original mission? We have a balanced budget amendment in our state constitution, unlike in Washington. We already raised gas taxes, grudgingly, to equal NC and GA, after decades of crumbling roads. We have now spent almost all of our covid money to supplement improving our crumbling infrastructure to catch back up to neighboring states as our gas taxes matching theirs does not erase 20+ years of lower road funding.
So what does that leave for the "state" universities? 12% funding is hardly a "state" university anymore. Now you can increase funding but at what expense? Can the road projects and divert covid money to Clemson and USC? Or increase taxes? Aside from canning road projects, I can see no other way to fund a level of control to allow a regulation like this, without either raising taxes, or shifting funding from other things that are just as important.
SC is popular, no doubt. Clemson is popular. No doubt. And generally it's a losing cause trying to compete with the free market with tax dollars, especially in a state with a balanced budget amendment.
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Again, I ask..
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Why do you and others treat the expense side of our balance sheet as something that is set in stone?
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The only numbers I gave were Clemson's revenue.
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Specifically the percentage of REVENUE Clemson receives from the state of SC. Are you talking about the expense side of the state of SC's balance sheet?
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You said the free markets have driven up Clemson's costs
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I’m saying the free market had zero to do with us building luxury dorms with swimming pools, random buildings with LED displays on the side, and almost diabolically expanding the administrative personnel headcount at the school while giving everyone ridiculous raises that far exceeded the cost of living over the same time.
CU has become a pot of gold for many who are enriching themselves off it, and it has zero to do with the free market. You rein that in, your need to pimp yourself out for as many jacked-up out of state tuitions as you can get goes away.
Yet your argument has those expenditures and their rate of increase being fixed, with the only variables being state funding levels and number of out of state students.
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In all fairness, there are only a small number of
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administrators making above average pay there. The rank and file folks are paid embarrassingly low wages. And when I saw rank and file..I mean up to the Director level of mgt. Like I said..I took a pretty hefty pay cut for the privilege of working there.
And believe it or not--it's not that cheap to live in Clemson. The property taxes on my house in Clemson were more expensive than they were for a comparably priced house in Mt Pleasant.
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I know what you mean
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but expenses are not on the balance sheet.
HTH.
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Son offa..
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Income statement.
Thanks for keeping me straight.
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Why would Clemson bother doing that now?
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Probably over half of South Carolina isn't from South Carolina anymore.
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Re: New University of Tennessee admission policy.....
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slippery slope.
One only has to look into the state of Maryland. Baltimore had 13 high schools where zero students were proficient in math. Somewhere within those zero students...there was a top 10% in the class.
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I don't THINK we would...
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I think we enjoy keeping the numbers tight and driving up the demand/cost. After all, gotta get that assistant to the assistant of the assistant dean of Student Welfare and Wifi Services that second vacation home.
Is this a time to hijack your thread and posit when the scam of college will wear off? Will people finally stop falling for the inflated demand just to drive up admin salaries? Are we finally going to hit a point where it's completely unaffordable?
I had a very odd dream last night where I was a high school graduate who was going to PC on a full ride but said #### it, I'm going to Clemson #### the exuberant costs and my father in law (somehow I was also married to my wife) had several flashy sports cars that he promised me one day but wouldn't let me drive one now and I was pissed.
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I wish DCIT was that well funded.
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I would have never left. Only reason I only took a 20% hit in my (at the time) current pay to go there was because they brought in this dude who was trying to revamp the dept and got salaries up for folks who started when I did.
Of course he went and stole a bunch of money from the university and got canned, but that's a whole 'nother story.
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Every organization should be rebooted periodically.
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Whether it's a college, a charity, or a labor union, they all cross a threshold in which the relationship between the organization and its administration becomes inverted. It begins with the administration existing to facilitate the organization until gradually the organization exists to facilitate the administration. At that point, it's a corrupt body and can't serve the purpose for which it was created.
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There were these two fellers standing on a bridge
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using the bathroom. One feller said the water was cold, the other feller said that is deep yo.
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Maybe this is the kinda gig you are talking about....
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The Chief Well-Being Officer (CWO) is a newly created, senior leadership position that will provide institutional expertise and vision to the development and implementation of a comprehensive and holistic enterprise-wide well-being strategy to support the development of knowledge, skills, and confidence of students and employees to invest in lifelong health. In partnership with on- and off-campus stakeholders, the CWO will be responsible for aligning, promoting, and expanding well-being initiatives, building stronger coalitions, and enhancing impact and service to all Clemson students, faculty, and staff online and at the main and innovation campuses and differing communities across the state. Performs other duties as assigned.
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JFC.***
Sep 27, 2023, 10:03 AM
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Holy ####, I was joking in my post
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Sep 27, 2023, 10:19 AM
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But it's actually a thing. How much does that pay? Six figures?
Shout out to Pres. Barker for the time he invented an $80k job for his new daughter in law.
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It's legit. I C/P it from Clemson's career page right before
Sep 27, 2023, 10:32 AM
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I posted it.
If it's a Sr Leadership position (Chief something) and located in Sikes (that's where the Presidents direct reports and some L3's have offices), It has to $150K plus range.
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Its amazing if you look down the list of cush jobs
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At CU, just how many of those people share names with BoT members.
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Re: Its amazing if you look down the list of cush jobs
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SHOCKING
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And I can't imagine...
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This isn't happening at other schools, but ###### if Clemson doesn't seem like a bigger offender.
How this can happen at state-funded schools AND they continue to raise their own salaries at the expense of students and their parents without some kind of criminal charges in it all is beyond me.
Really, this should be illegal. Let private schools run like this.
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I'm not defending the job, but that is kinda what the
Sep 27, 2023, 10:44 AM
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university is selling, right?
I have no idea what that job actually does, but I do know from experience that it's almost impossible to get a job created at Clemson that didn't exist before.
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Re: I'm not defending the job, but that is kinda what the
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No wonder I have to beat the fluff out of these people when they enter the workforce.
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Weird, when I read that description it TOTALLY has
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"middle-aged white male" written all over it.
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I already know
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that Clemson doesn't hire old peoples but that is not stopping me for applying for everything
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My MIL got a job there in 2010?
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She was 51 then I think.
She retires TODAY.
But kind of to go along with what y'all was saying. They are hiring 2 people in her place.
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They do...sometimes.
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When I started they also hired a 54 year old white woman.
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100% on board with this.
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We're a state school. Not "some other state's" school.
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Thinking back to my time at Clemson from 2001-2007
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Roommates: 1/4 from SC (25%)
Girlfriends: 7/7 from SC (100%)
HOLEE CRAP!!! DON'T YOU GUYS SEE WHAT"S HAPPENING HEAR? THEY ARE TRYING TO BREAD OUR WOMEN WITH YANKEES!!!!.
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Re: Thinking back to my time at Clemson from 2001-2007
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No, no no, that's inbread
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Sep 27, 2023, 9:23 AM
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What I'm talking about is "multi-rational".
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Well, done.
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Well done.
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WATN?
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Mo - SC
Ka - NV
La - NC
Sh - NY
Kr - RIP
Ka - SC
Li - FL
So 4 of them took their Clemson education and moved out of state, 1 died, and 2 remained in SC.
Terrible.
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Sorry to hear about Krystal.***
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Eating Disorder
Sep 27, 2023, 10:11 AM
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I didn't even know she had one. It was a few years after we dated.
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I was an out of state student and I would support it.
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If nothing else it might limit the University's blind pursuit of growth and profit.
I had no ties to South Carolina but I love the Upstate and the entire state. Some of that culture and experience is lost when you have a majority OOS students (and 90% chain restaurants, but that's a different story). The school was founded to educate SC students. That should be its primary goal, even if folks like me can't get in.
I wouldn't favor a strict limit on the percentage of in state students purely because of geography. Clemson always has and always will pull a lot from Georgia and NC based on its location.
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Here's some anecdotal evidence from Clemson's Family
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Weekend...
My nephew is an OOS freshman (NC resident) at Clemson. For the recent Family Weekend (FAU game) we held a huge tailgate where we invited all the kids on his hall and their parents to drop by. Between the parents and kids we must have had well over 35 folks stroll through the tailgate at some point during the day.
I made a point to greet everybody that came through the tailgate and ask them where they were from. Not a single person was a resident of South Carolina. We had folks from California, Texas, North Carolina, Rhode Island, New Jersey etc... but not a single South Carolinian. It makes me wonder if even 50% of the Clemson student body is from South Carolina...
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I wonder how/if this impacts networking?
Sep 27, 2023, 1:19 PM
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I mean back in the day, a Clemson degree carried weight in SC with other Clemson grads. But now with Clemson grads spread far and wide, I wonder if this diminishes the connections (assuming you plan to live in SC). Doesn't seem to bother the Ivy League schools, so anyway, just an interesting aspect.
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I'd think it would help
Sep 27, 2023, 3:22 PM
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I mean if that kind thing even matters any more.
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My niece is a Sophomore and of she is the only SC resident
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in her close group of 5 friends.
One is from Georgia and the other three are from NY/NJ/PA or other shidd like that, I think.
Small sample size, but what you are saying checks out for me.
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It's not just the student body, it's the entire population
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of Clemson now. There's a cult-like group of out of staters who seem to be taking over. They're infecting Pendleton too. I unabashedly hate Easley, but we had a T-ball game there last night and I gotta say it was refreshing to hear the Southern accents, even if half of them did have flame tattoos on their forearms.
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There were over 600 kids from New Jersey way back in the
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90's. I think the home states of the student population were SC, GA, then NJ, in that order. NJ may have been fourth behind NC, not sure. My neighbor in Johnstone was called home to NJ for daddy-duty though, first semester 1994 year. So there is some attrition.
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I believe Clemson has always given special consideration...
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to instate and in county students. I think that's how I got in back in the 1980s.
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