A question for the older and wiser lungers: what was the biggest misconception
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A question for the older and wiser lungers: what was the biggest misconception
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Dec 19, 2023, 9:39 AM
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you had about life when you were younger (say, in college or 20-25)?
I was discussing this with some friends and the answers were interesting and, frankly, depressing.
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I really think one that is certainly not prevalent today
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Dec 19, 2023, 9:46 AM
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For me, it was To get ahead and make a great living which continues to grow you needed to work for a big company and climb the ladder. Today, I think it’s the opposite.
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So... work for a small company and
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Dec 19, 2023, 9:48 AM
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descend the ladder?
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No, create a small company, grow it, and BE the ladder***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:04 AM
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Re: No, create a small company, grow it, and BE the ladder***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:14 AM
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What my sons have done!
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Oculus Spirit [98271]
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That's what my dad's son did too.
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:15 AM
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bingo
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:56 AM
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modern corporate america, and long-term corporate america are just farms of corporate chodes.
merit is not rewarded. fluency in corporatespeak coupled with solid ball gargling and a nice shiny MBA degree gets you up "the ladder"
"the ladder" is also a complete fabrication to hyper inflate value of individuals while using it as a carrot.
corporate structures nowadays have sr. managers doing #### analysts should be doing. all these firms are way too top heavy with way too many intricacies wrt titles and pay bands that don't reflect actual capabilities of workers. it's a #### show.
IMO there needs to be a massive correction. but as I've said before, the "solution" coming out of chaos is always worse.
we need to get smaller. smaller communities, smaller companies, smaller breadth of scale wrt to commodity distribution needed to facilitate day to day life (groceries, food, energy, etc.)
instead it's gone the opposite way, completely flipped the paradigm of having a motivated workforce, and stripped any leverage from the consumer in the process.
i fuggging hate it.
oh. and some chode from IT will lock you out of your phone b/c "iT's ThE pRoCeSs"
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Re: bingo
Dec 19, 2023, 11:20 AM
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Just from my experience with multiple corporations, about 20 percent of the people are really running the company. When I say running, I mean making it operate. The titling of these folks varies from very senior titles to not so senior titles.
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20% of the people doing 80% of the work
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Dec 19, 2023, 11:50 AM
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80% of the people doing almost nothing
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But we LOOK busy, and that is key***
Dec 19, 2023, 11:51 AM
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Wasn't directed at you
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Dec 19, 2023, 11:59 AM
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(as far as you know), it DEFINITELY holds true where I work. We say that all the time
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We got 67,000 employees, IIRC
Dec 19, 2023, 11:50 AM
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When I saw that number, it blew me away. But I work in a relatively small team in the Carolinas with less than 40 people so it doesn't FEEL like 67,000 people. Plus, I am all by myself with WFH so that helps. If I move jobs, I might have to go back to an office.
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67,000 worldwide, not sure in the US though***
Dec 19, 2023, 11:51 AM
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We have about 477,000 employees.
Dec 19, 2023, 1:21 PM
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Even though last year was one of our biggest and most profitable years ever, we'll slough off a few thousand employees every month just based on...well, I have no idea what its based on. How old you are, how much money you make, or who you ticked off on a teams call. No really idea how it's decided.
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For context, how many large companies have you worked for...
Dec 19, 2023, 11:54 AM
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and how big were they?
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varies in role
Dec 19, 2023, 3:11 PM
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as a consultant, I had over a dozen clients. Ranging from Fortune 100 to smaller shops
went into industry in a Fortune 100
my wife works for a Fortune 100
I work for a large company, but am in sales so the role is much different.
I've worked for enough to never go on the other side of the table. And to realize that I can do what I do now on my own or for a smaller firm and make more money while having more fun doing it.
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I thought I'd know how to do a lot more stuff by now.***
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Yes. This is very, very true for me.***
Dec 19, 2023, 12:12 PM
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For me it always come back to the broken promise of flying cars.***
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Picture it, Sirrine Hall, Clemson, early 2000s
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:29 AM
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Dr. Carlson's marking class. We have to come up with a print add on the spot. My groups was the 2003 Chevy Bel-Air flying car. Tag line "It's about #### time." We won that day.
I feel your pain on the flying car, but the Jetson's still had traffic jams.
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Re: A question for the older and wiser lungers: what was the biggest misconception
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:11 AM
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I dunno
I'd guess in some things maybe shoulda gone bigger, realized that someone has to be that guy, might as well be me
but things worked out pretty good
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That people in their 40s are old.***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:12 AM
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Aren't you in your 40's?***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:17 AM
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You misunderheard her. She said she isn't old.***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:19 AM
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Somewhere I missed that***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:27 AM
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Re: Somewhere I missed that***
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:37 AM
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It was her misconception
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Great pick. 40 seems younger every day.
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Dec 19, 2023, 12:17 PM
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This is the first time that many my friends are looking middle aged in Christmas cards.
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That I was right about public policy because I thought everything could be
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:14 AM
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neatly wrapped and organized based on economic/social principle, and moreover, having a stoic, unempathetic approach was superior because "tough love" was what was needed and detachment from the human condition improved one's ability to be objective.
Turns out, you need to live in the world to know better how it works, and also how to lead it.
My other advice would be always make the lady come first because then it doesn't matter how terrible or quick you are at the rest of the show, she'll always remember she got her rocks off with you and that's always gonna happen any time she wants to come back for more.
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So I'm guessing you had some Ron Paul bumper stickers at one point?
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Dec 19, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Were you a standard sophomore-year libertarian or did you go full Ayn Rand?
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Many such cases...***
Dec 19, 2023, 1:27 PM
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It's funny how much of my life has been dictated by my tape deck going
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Dec 19, 2023, 1:29 PM
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bad in my truck, and flipping past the Michael Savage show on the radio and how hard "red diaper doper babies" hits a high schooler's political angst.
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That I would never see the Tigers win a National Championship in my lifetime***
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Funny enough, I was always convinced we would win one in my lifetime.
Dec 19, 2023, 12:13 PM
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I just assumed I'd be in my 60s or something. We've won two, so the rest is gravy to me.
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Oculus Spirit [81868]
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Hit the lottery early***
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That there is pot of gold at the end of whatever rainbow
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I thought I was looking at.
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I felt safe knowing the adults were in charge.
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There was a very specific moment when I realized I was now an adult and all the people I'd relied on for guidance and to make important decisions weren't any better at it than me. It made me feel like civilization is just a house of cards and our faith in all these systems is the only thing keeping it from collapsing.
So yeah, bleak. It's given me more faith in myself, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
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The police are there to serve and protect
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and that those are the people you can ALWAYS trust
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Done commenting. I'll give my answer in one simple word.
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Dec 19, 2023, 10:37 AM
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women
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Yeah***
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That Miller, Bud, etc. make good beer.***
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The biggest one I had when I was younger that took a long time to learn
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was the fact that I should not be passing the Dutchie from the righthand side.
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That I could pick football games against the line
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