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Athletic Dir [876]
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Was it targeting?
Apr 21, 2017, 11:27 PM
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Watson's throw to Renfrow in the National Championship game--was there targeting on the tackle by the Alabama cornerback? One could argue he launched his helmet into Renfrow. I'm posting this because I noticed it just now watching a replay of the game. Thoughts?
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All-In [27366]
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There was targeting all night, but never called.
Apr 21, 2017, 11:30 PM
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'Cause it was called all season on Bama.
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Bama's D admitted their plan was to "rattle" DW4 early. So they were
Apr 21, 2017, 11:34 PM
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told to go for his head.
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 12:38 AM
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I read where Saban is a stand up/class act guy. I need more proof.
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Orange Blooded [4142]
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 1:55 AM
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I heard one of their players say that they planned to play DW 4 tough and take him out . This was in a post game interview.
But DW4 was " too tough ". I'm too lazy to look for look for once
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 1:29 AM
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That dude knew he was about to let his entire team and fan base down by letting him catch the ball. He took aim at Renfrow and unloaded on him in a desperate attempt to make him lose the ball. He probably threw caution to the wind at that point...flag or no flag he didn't want to lose the NC.
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Orange Blooded [2775]
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 4:55 AM
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At the very least it was a late hit when you watch it. The ref was standiing there looking at it the whole time. The guy launched himself--what else do you have to do to satisfy the rules?
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 7:51 AM
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exactly. late hit that was unecessary as the td had been scored. should have been called for it
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Good question. Refs dont like to throw flags on final plays
Apr 22, 2017, 5:46 AM
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for good reason, but on the other hand a game cant end on a def penalty. Only if he had dropped it, and if time had also run out, would it have mattered, as i suspect we kick the field goal anyway. But sure, if those two ifs happen, we wish we had the flag.
But i looked at a bunch of videos (hard to find more than the broadcast angle), and it looked too close to call to me. The hit was on the upper arm portion of the shoulder pad. At full speed it looks like his facemask was up, but at slower speed the helmet was down some, but not the 'spearing' look you see sometimes. To me, if I'm the ref I dont throw the flag.
Maybe a tad late, but again, too close. And in that case, by the time the hit occurs the TD is good anyway, so maybe a good decision to let it go. (In this case I'm assuming the ref just decided to not throw the flag).
A weird thought just occurred to me: lets say Renfrow drops the ball on the hit, and the ref calls late hit. Obviously the ref calls it a TD, which is necessary for the hit to be late. But of course the td would be reviewed. Lets say they overturn it. A review cannot overturn a judgement flag (except targeting). So do we have a case where a conflict of fact stands? No td, but a late hit flag that cant be unless there is a td?
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Re: Good question. Refs dont like to throw flags on final plays
Apr 22, 2017, 5:58 AM
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You just blew my mind, but it's early.
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When I first saw it on television, I actually thought the
Apr 22, 2017, 9:47 AM
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ref "WAITED" to see if Renfrow held on to the ball after contact. He should have signaled TD as soon as Renfrow's feet hit the ground. I mean, he took a step or two before contact. If Renfrow fumbled the ball, was he going to rule incomplete?
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Don't know. Good question. Of course, the whole thing took
Apr 23, 2017, 10:06 PM
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half a second, so hard to know what the ref was thinking.
A snail is mugged by a turtle. The cops show up. "What can you tell us, sir?" "I don't know. It all happened so fast."
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My answer is no!..
Apr 22, 2017, 8:31 AM
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The hit was an attempt to dislodge the ball and refs tend to allow those, but due to the timing, I assume that Clemson would have been awarded the TD anyway. A better question is, "would the refs have called the inside corner for defensive holding or pass interference for tackling Scott (Alabama fans' supposed pick which wasn't) on the play if incomplete?
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Re: My answer is no!..
Apr 22, 2017, 9:18 AM
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Watson threw it
Renfro caught it
Tigers win
I'm a happy fan
GO TIGERS
See you next year in Atlanta
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 9:30 AM
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I don't know about that, but I can tell you that any other game Reuben Foster would've been ejected for literally trying to clothesline DW. Mike Williams was also targeted early in the game
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Re: Was it targeting?
Apr 22, 2017, 9:44 AM
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There were a few times Foster should have been ejected
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Better question is where was the pass interference flag
Apr 22, 2017, 9:43 AM
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Since Bama was tackling the other receivers as they came off the line?
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