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Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy
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Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:44 PM

of falling off the pedestal that it was on. This started before CBV and CTE left. It needs to be fixed.

Complacency is a natural thing, right? If it ain't broke don't fix it, right? It's broken. We lost a couple of high-quality recruits to UNC who have done nothing in 30 years. We get those guys two years ago.

Our offense falls to near the bottom out of nearly 130 teams in one year. The portal in is free for all with nearly a dozen scholarship players leaving in two years.

Lots of other programs lose OC and DCs without this kind of mass exodus that we see now with our recruits.

There are no smiles with a serious fan base who see the issues. To ignore it all is to be stupid. To trust a guy who has built this juggernaut is wise, but we are on a cliff. See it or not but it's there.

I will leave you guys with this...Dabo says that experience is the best teacher and success is the worst teacher. I agree with him on the second part.

Experience doesn't help the best poker players in the world. The best ones are always the young folk.

I am not a pumper and not a sky is falling type of guy but this football team is at a crossroads. I am excited to see what happens next. Good or bad, I cheer my Tigers as I have for 40+ years.

Go Tigers!!

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:50 PM

You said A LOT….yet, you said nothing.

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Johnstone...you're a Tiger like me

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:55 PM

and respect your opinion that I said nothing.

I will respectfully disagree and resay that our program is at a crossroads

If you need me to clarify anything else, just ask.

Go Tigers!

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Re: Johnstone...you're a Tiger like me

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Dec 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

Clarify why in the world anyone cares about your opinion. Pump that ego … lol …cause no one takes you seriously but you and somehow I get the feeling you know that

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Re: Johnstone...you're a Tiger like me

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:15 AM

Think you should pump your own ego! You been here for 2 seconds and are telling people what and who they should care about!!!
Slow your roll!

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Re: Johnstone...you're a Tiger like me


Dec 12, 2021, 11:24 AM

That’s right when stupid is said I will comment. Have you seen me offering advise or criticizing coaches decisions unlike certain wanna be but never will be. Lol say what you want but I will continue to defend them so whine sll you want.

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You like projecting much


Dec 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

because you are but I think you know that.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:53 PM

Actually, we will gain be the loses. Part of the problem has been the lack of full buy-in by some players - thought they were too good to get better. Dabo is right, in that, we will rebuild with new players that will be hungry and a staff that is hungry.

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Thanks man, great response

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:58 PM

And I really hope you're right.

I am just worried that the "success is the worst teacher" part is happening now.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:57 PM

#### off. HTH

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 11, 2021, 9:57 PM

#### off. HTH

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 11, 2021, 9:57 PM

#### off. HTH

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 12, 2021, 9:46 AM

You can say that again.

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You're overreacting

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Dec 11, 2021, 9:58 PM

Let's see how Dabo adjusts with the scholarship numbers. We're not losing any more transfers than anyone else. There are 2100 guys in the portal.

As for complacency, I didn't see it this year. I saw a staff and team fight the whole season. What I did see was a huge dropoff at QB. That gets fixed, everything is fine again

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alright, I will play

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:01 PM

so the QB play causes us to go from one of the top offenses in the nation to 110 in one season?

Really?

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O line has been a deficiency for years

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:13 PM

and we have done VERY little to change it. Now that it has become blatantly obvious to anyone, we decide to do something. The lack of OL development has lost 2 championship ops for Clemson.

The avg recruiting and lack of development lasted way too long. Dabo is responsible for that.

There is no way to justify the lack of OL development.

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Re: O line has been a deficiency for years

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Dec 12, 2021, 6:45 AM

Coaching, player development and recruiting. More of the same assistants = more of the same results. Our offense did not just take a step back, the passing game was non-existent and one of the worst in CFB.

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Re: O line has been a deficiency for years

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

Ugh… when you play in a National Championship you do realize that you were better than every team but 1?
Of you lose in the play off your better than every team but 2 or 3. Maybe even 1.
So you can’t say that anything was broken or not developed!
But last year it was the defense who could not stop OSU not the offensive line!
It was the defense he could not stop LSU not the offensive line…

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Re: O line has been a deficiency for years


Dec 12, 2021, 9:08 PM

Give us your solution Blue. Otherwise quit bitvhing

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Did you watch DJ this year?

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

The drop off was catastrophic. We could hardly complete a pass half the sesson.

Now, I'm not one who has written DJ off completely. Some guys take longer to develop. Jones and Burrow were mediocre until their senior years. But I'm elated we have a 5 star QB coming in next semester for the spring for a real competition, something we didnt have this year.

Whoever it is, if QB steps up our offense hums again. QB is the key to our offense. If DJ had been just average this year we're likely in the playoffs in spite of all the injuries. Not winning them, but in them, like the KB year

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My response to that is, why was he so bad?

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:20 PM

And why didn’t we have a capable backup to relieve him?

Everyone seems to act like the coaches are victims here. Shouldn’t they be held responsible for these failures at QB this year? (And the OL, and the WR, etc.)

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Really a great point Judge.

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

Development, depth, recruitment.....all on the coaching staff.

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He was bad because right now he looks like

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:34 PM

a big miss in recruiting. Maybe he develops, but if he doesn't, he was a big miss.

Why was his back up not better? Who is coming in to sit behind a preseason Heisman favorite. Deshsun's back up for 2 years was Nick Schussler. TL's was Brice, who bombed at Duke and had to drop down to the Sunbelt to find success.

At the level we're looking to play at QB is basically everything. Your top guy flames out or gets hurt, not many are going to have close to that available on the bench. OU did this year. Who else?

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Alabama and Ohio State did. Also, not having a solid backup

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:44 PM

better than one of the worst QBs in CFB is a coaching issue.

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LSU's back up never played and just tranferred

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:02 PM

on paper he has DJ's resume. In reality we have no idea how good he is. Who is Bama's backup? Is he a highly rated recruit or has he proven anything?

Recruiting is part of coaching, so if we missed on DJ I'll give you that. But DJ not being good this year os because he wasn't good, not development or coaching.

Same QB coach had Kelly Bryant get us to the playoffs.

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OSU***

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:04 PM



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hey man, we are splitting hairs


Dec 11, 2021, 11:06 PM

but solid dialoge and thanks. Go Tigers!

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The current reality is very few highly recruited


Dec 11, 2021, 11:20 PM

players are going to come in and sit behind someone. This is especially true at QB. A team may sign a couple of guys, but they almost certainly only keep 1.

The exception would possibly be a guy like Klubnick for us now. He committed prior to the season. Prior to the season most thought DJ would be drafted after next season. Hey, maybe he transforms ?? but Klubnick was realistically looking at 1 year as the back up playing a lot. His timeline is obviously wide open to accelerating at this point.

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You are right.

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:50 PM

On the the QB back up. No body is going to sit behind him when he has a minimum of two maybe 3 years left. The only reason OU had their guy was because Rattler was supposed to have a big season and move on to the NFL. That’s why they recruit in cycles. 1 star, 1 guy the next year that they think will stay on the team on the bench. In theory if DJ lives up to his recruiting Klubnik comes in and sits a a year next season and starts the 2 after that and so on. So it was no lack of recruiting it’s the fact that like you said right now DJ seems to be one of the biggest recruiting flops we’ve seen and no one can predict that and no coaching can cause that.

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Re: Alabama and Ohio State did. Also, not having a solid backup


Dec 12, 2021, 9:12 PM

You are laughable. You make it sound like we need to reconsider Dabo. Which is a ridiculous thought

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I am still shocked that he looked so great in his two starts last year

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:46 AM

and so much worse in his 12 starts this year.

He was really good in high school against good competition. I have to believe his performance this year was less about a recruiting miss by virtually every coach and recruiting expert, and more about a young man who felt the pressure of being the starter at a big time program in a new era of NIL. If the rumors about his parents getting divorced are true, that surely played a role this year as well.

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Re: My response to that is, why was he so bad?


Dec 11, 2021, 10:56 PM

Held responsible? How precisely should our 2-time national champion visionary head coach be held responsible?

If you simply mean he can help responsible by allowing message board folks to post know-it-all, snarky and outrageous overreactions, then ok sure. Have at it.

But if it means anything else, that would be absurd.

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You're exactly right...

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:12 PM

snarky off-the-cuff responses are not cool at all. Hey man, we all love Dabo and the Tigers. All I am saying is that you can love the program and love Dabo and still be worried about what's going on.

Agree?

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Re: You're exactly right...


Dec 12, 2021, 9:10 PM

Sure. Crossroads? Falling off? You knee-jerk way too hard

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How is it snarky or outrageous to ask why we either didn’t recruit well enough

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:41 AM

or develop talent well enough?

That is a logical question.

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Either coaches missed wildly on their evaluation of DJ,

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:29 PM

even right up to the start of the season, because I think they clearly weren't expecting him to be among the worst in the country, OR something else that we don't know about has been going on with DJ all year. It's obvious to me that DJ himself, independent of WRs and the OL, was significantly worse this year than last year.

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I think they knew in fall camp

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Dec 12, 2021, 7:28 AM

just to late to do anything about it. I remember all through camp coaches never talked of DJ's excelling. Heard a lot about Taylor, but not DJ. Most of us likely chalked it up to him going against our defense, then the reality became visible.

They maybe even knew after the spring. But to my previous point, who is coming in to play behind a top 5 Heisman candidate according to all the media? Are you believing a coach that tells you don't believe what ESPN says, he's really not that good

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Re: I think they knew in fall camp

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:45 AM

Oh, they knew in the Spring all right. Did you see the Spring Game?? It was an exact copy of what we saw all year.

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Exactly the issue…

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:52 AM

“Why was he so bad?” We don’t know, but some sure have answers. And that’s the problem here, people are confident they have answers without having all the information.


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Re: Did you watch DJ this year?


Dec 13, 2021, 2:28 PM

The drop of was catastrophic but there were MANY other factors, other than DJ, that caused our offense to look as bad as it did for most of the season - we did well the last two games. Here are some of the reasons:

1. A number of injuries in the offensive line forced us to play players who were not ready
2. The replacements on the offensive line are talented, and it showed towards the end of the season, but it took them a while to gel
3. There were just too many injuries to key wide receivers and there was no continuity there either
4. The best running backs are freshmen and sophomores and it took them a while to gel

DJ needs to improve - no doubt - but it was not all on him. The bottom line is that we had an uncommonly large number of injuries to the few key experienced people we had on offense. Let's see how we do in the bowl game.

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Re: alright, I will play


Dec 12, 2021, 8:57 AM

YES YES That is true

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Re: alright, I will play


Dec 13, 2021, 2:48 PM

Yes, it hurts a lot. DJ had a bad year, the line had a bad year but showed some improvement at the end. DJ had to hit the open receiver. Just my opinion. What do I know thought, I don't make millions of dollars a year.

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Re: You're overreacting


Dec 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

That summed it up well. We would have been great this year if the QB situation would have been what we expected.

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Re: You're overreacting


Dec 12, 2021, 10:47 PM

Dabo isn’t a rookie, he also isn’t complacent or lazy. I believe Dabo likes being at Clemson. I believe Dabo will get the job done.

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Worry about what you control, all else is a waste of time.***

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Dec 12, 2021, 11:46 AM

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the two

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:06 PM

It's no where near as bad people say it is. Defense is still loaded with talent to be a top 5 defense next year. Offense is filled with freshman and sophomores. Our issue is QB and WR. Cade is coming and we have 2 of the best WR in the nation coming in. We are hitting on all our immediate needs.

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:11 PM

Every good business or enterprise has to reinvent itself. That is just part of life. If we lost the head coach then the rebuilding hurdles would be large. But in this case, these are just opportunities for younger hungrier coaches to join the Dabo family. It was a matter of time before Coach Elliott and Coach Venables moved on -- ironically it might be a blessing in disguise that this happened in a year where we missed the ACC championship game and the CFP. We should be thankful that those two coaches and the AD invested over 3 decades combined of their lives at Clemson -- not many schools can boast that.

As far as recruits moving on -- well I wish them luck. I think they are always reminded -- you pick the school and not the coach you play for: the coaches will come and ago. With the transfer portal in place, it might be wiser for incoming players to take a wait-and-see approach -- but these are 17 and 18-year olds and at that age sometimes prone to irrational decision making.

I kind of look forward to see what the new regime looks like. We wanted a different offense. Now we'll get one. We'll probably even get a better defensive coach. We'll get new pipelines to recruit and we'll get new blood in our athletic department.

Because that is the way you get better. IMHO.

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:16 PM

dscer, thanks for the response. I hope you're right and sometimes the phoenix does rise from the ashes but all I see are ashes right now. Maybe I am pessimistic but you're talking about a fan that started with Danny.

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:30 PM

I was there during Danny and the reason the program died then was the school administration. They essentially killed Clemson athletics. We have a different board and President now and the economic universe has archanged .

The thing I do see coming out of this winter of discontent is we are going to have to shell out 5-10 million more per year to stay in this arms race.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

Oh man!! You are so right about the Clemson folks killing their own during the Ford fiasco! Spot on!!

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 12, 2021, 9:19 PM

Then you remember the ashes of the Duke game in 89. Or the 30-0 score against Ga Tech at halftime. I love Cosch Ford but it wasn't always roses back then either. Ask the trash can that was in my dorm in Clemson House that year

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

Curious -- what mass exodus do you see? I see 3 players de-committing. Just means we'll get 3 players who just want to go to Clemson a lot more.

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Reread the post

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:22 PM

Portal has had a dozen in the past two years.

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Over 2 years, that's well below the average


Dec 11, 2021, 10:38 PM

there are 2100 players currently in the portal

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Clemson football and average


Dec 11, 2021, 10:48 PM

Do you like those words together? I don't.

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For players transferring out?

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:06 PM

yes, I'll take average

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Re: Over 2 years, that's well below the average


Dec 12, 2021, 11:06 AM

Its strange that these portal jumpers and decommittments say nothing about education and the
school. Its like a love sick younster following his girlfriend off the college. All of them
twit "after a long confervation with family" , I decided to transer or decommitt. Any coach can
be replaced, remember Ohio State crushed Coach V. defence with that hurry up offence. I hope the
transfers are not given any breaks when it comes to grades. Reminds me of a church member putting
the pastor up on a pedestal and missing the point.

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Re: Reread the post


Dec 11, 2021, 11:23 PM

I think that's just part of college sports nowadays. Everybody wants to play. Everybody can't start. Just basic math. We should get used to it. That's why I don't mind see 3-star and 2-star players being recruited. We want every kid to to start. But we also want every kid to accept their role. As long as the coaches are fair and honest with all.

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:25 PM

The whole getting players that want to be here thing sounds good at press conferences.....

But 5 star talent is 5 star talent for a reason...

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I have always thought that to be a tad disingenuous

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:34 PM

talking too much about it. I will leave this here though.

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

The de-commits are due to shenanigans at IMG. the transfers were all players who were not going to play anyway. To use terms like "Mass Exodus" is totally over-reaction.

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Dude we just lost our top 3 defensive recruits


Dec 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

from a small class.

I don't think I am over-reacting at all.

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Thank you for having the courage to post this.

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

People who want to cite success in previous seasons and deny these issues are living in denial.

I wonder what they will say this time next year when we have likely missed the playoffs again?

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:15 PM

I see you offer no solution that we fans can make work. Ours is to either loyally stand behind the powers that be, or become critical, miserable complainers, powerless to reroute the train. I’m just along for the ride - up the mountain, down the cliffs. Just a passenger who has to trust the engineer. Enjoy the ride.

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Dude, we aren't the problem solvers here

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:24 PM

just the observers.

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send this to Dabo, sure he could learn from you


Dec 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

with all your experience as a championship football coach

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"The internet gave the world a voice....and that voice just whines and complains."


Cook


Dec 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

do you not have anything else better to do than to personally attack posters on TNet?

What a miserable life you must live. Get help.

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He’s attacked me numerous times as well.

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:34 PM

It’s sad.

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As many others as well. He is ....

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:35 PM

a jerk. That 100% pulse thing by his name just devalues what Tiger Pulse is all about.

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typical liberal nut, you can say what you want, but


Dec 11, 2021, 10:38 PM

no ne else can

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"The internet gave the world a voice....and that voice just whines and complains."


Here goes the name calling


Dec 11, 2021, 10:49 PM

how old are you cook?

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you could just tell him to get back in the kitchen?

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:34 PM

Kidding! really

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haha....thought about it many times but with him?


Dec 11, 2021, 10:37 PM

not even worth it.

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sorry to hurt your wittle snowlflake feelings


Dec 11, 2021, 10:37 PM

geez, what a wuss

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"The internet gave the world a voice....and that voice just whines and complains."


Cook, here is an idea


Dec 11, 2021, 10:41 PM

how about you try and formulate a real thought before you post. We'll wait.

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tell me how many practices and team meetings you've been to


Dec 11, 2021, 10:45 PM

you site there an speculate the end is nigh based on one season and you get your panties in a wad if someone agrees with you!

I love it! You can dish out all this crap about it being over, but you can't take crap. Now YOU dish out the name calling. Easy to troll idiots like you. You work with 'feelings' so logic never enters the picture.

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"The internet gave the world a voice....and that voice just whines and complains."


Are you drunk?


Dec 11, 2021, 10:51 PM

I hope so.

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Bad look cook. You be the one name calling.***


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Ain't my argument, but wrong...***


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Why don’t stay off a message board if you can’t handle

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:19 PM

someone stating an opinion.

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Thank you!


Dec 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

So tired of this guy. He's nothing but negative.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 11, 2021, 10:38 PM

We’re ######

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:40 PM

Love that others can notice the complacency across the program.. We’ll get called coots for pointing it out, but it’s reasonable to be worried about what’s going on.

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Crossroads? That's where Tommy Johnson sold his soul

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:43 PM

Crossroads? That's where Tommy Johnson sold his soul to the devil at midnight.

All he learned was how to play the guitar real good.


Dabo is still "affiliated" and I believe Coach will pick the right road while seeking the treasure.

https://youtu.be/fgcWfVvT_UM

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 11, 2021, 10:43 PM

Whatever

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Dec 11, 2021, 10:54 PM

College Football as you once knew it is in serious trouble not just little ole Clemson

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Dec 12, 2021, 11:01 AM

Exactly. College football in general is a mess. People are running in all directions with no one knowing where those roads lead. It's in great need of competent leadership and regulations.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 11, 2021, 11:01 PM

Another Gamecock butt hurt over getting beat 30-0 and 7 in a row hurts don't it? lmao

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Me? A Gamecock?

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:08 PM

I am sure you'll find plenty on this board who hate any opinion I have but few would call me a chicken.

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Don't jump.

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:09 PM

We got the real deal at the helm.

Go Tigers.

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Been locked in since 1980

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Dec 11, 2021, 11:14 PM

so no jumping for me.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 12, 2021, 6:39 AM

Go back to surfing. Crossroads lol. Is Coach Swinney still our HC? Yup. We are fine. We as fans may not know his plan but I guarantee he has one and he has been spot on in the past.

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I will be surfing in a couple of weeks actually.


Dec 12, 2021, 10:57 AM

Great fun, you should try it.

I don't know what to tell you if you didn't see everything that's happened this year and don't see a crossroads.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 12, 2021, 7:39 AM

Our program is in greater jeopardy for things that are way out of Dabos control. Clemson’s location and relatively small alumni base puts us way behind in the world of NIL. Even if some much needed regulation happens.

What is going on at Texas and Miami will push for some regulation sooner rather than later possibly.

Even with some rules, they could be some legit teams with advantages. If Bruton Smith or Rick Hendrick, who own dealerships all over the country, want to give 30 blue chippers NIL deals to make car ads close to their hometown they could. Those are the kind of games Clemson is going to have to play potentially.

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Good point.


Dec 12, 2021, 10:59 AM

I am not putting blame on Dabo though. I don't want college football to be a professional minor league either.

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy

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Dec 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

One positive is that we feel very comfortable as the underdog.

Alas, we are again the underdog! Time to get on the ROY bus!

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 12, 2021, 10:52 AM

“Waited a while?” You’ve basically been posting that the sky is falling daily for months.

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And what you have you been doing?


Dec 12, 2021, 11:01 AM

Attacking anyone with a viewpoint that isn't yours? That's helpful.

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Re: And what you have you been doing?


Dec 12, 2021, 11:10 AM

Was that an attack? Are you everyone? I just pointed out that you most certainly did not wait awhile to post your negative feelings about the program. That assertion (waiting awhile) implies that this is some carefully measured, contemplative post. But it’s really just the same stuff you’ve been posting over and over. You’re entitled to your opinion even when it’s silly and fails to hold up under any scrutiny. Dabo isn’t going anywhere. The head coach of major college football program should not be dictated to by the fanbase. The fanbase has a large say in when it is time for a coach to move on but should have no say in how they actually run the program. So what is your intent? Because all I see is a guy undermining the most successful coach we’ve ever known.

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Dec 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

I hope this post doesn't make it to Twitter for all those haters to feed off it. Coots are spreading rumors everywhere. I even saw a Bama fan telling them that Clemson would be OK. And, someone from another school telling Clemson fans to stop letting people from lesser programs get to us. Let's stop and take a deep breath. Please.

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This is a message board where fans discuss things....


Dec 12, 2021, 11:02 AM

I am sorry if I have eyes.

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Dec 12, 2021, 11:05 AM

We all have eyes. But, can we just give the situation time to settle down a bit before we declare we're bankrupt?

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We’ve been in jeopardy for a couple years


Dec 12, 2021, 11:00 AM

I believe we may be ruint

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Re: Waited a while to post this but our program is in jeopardy


Dec 12, 2021, 9:01 PM

While I may seem to be an optimist in the middle of alot of negativism I believe all of this will make Clemson stronger. All of these things: injuries, loseing players and coaches were bound to happen sooner or later. Just came at once. Teams that have these things come a little at a time never seem to get above it. I believe we have Coach that is quite up to the challenge and will get it done and do it right. These players that drooped their commitments will have regrets down the line. The Tigers will be back stronger than ever. BELIEVE IT!

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How bout we wait and watch are most successful


Dec 12, 2021, 11:03 PM

Coach ever, navigate instead of whimpering

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