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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 9:57 AM
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Save the lecture about ESPN, etc. The fact of the matter is they're getting ALL of the recruits now. Teams like Clemson and FSU will make the investment into football, but it's tough to think we're going to get a major investment into football from a major chunk of our conference. Louisville will help, but honestly...there's no way Wake, Duke, NC State, Virginia, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, or BC are going to put up the big money to try to compete with the big boys.
Meanwhile, regardless of what may be going on behind the scenes, Auburn and Ole Miss are cleaning up today.
We need to leave the ACC.
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Orange Blooded [3350]
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Eff that. They want to be like us.***
Feb 6, 2013, 9:58 AM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102354]
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You heard Cheesedik.
Feb 6, 2013, 10:02 AM
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"Teams are running 80 and 90 plays on offense so you're gonna need a lot of defensive linemen."
I'd rather be the team that runs 90 plays on offense than the one that runs 90 on defense.
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Valley Legend [12609]
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Re: You heard Cheesedik.
Feb 6, 2013, 11:36 AM
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Makes sense to me!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102354]
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Yeah, every thing you said was true. I agree 100%.
Feb 6, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Not.
You don't plant Orchids among weeds.
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Wrong...our class is better than 3/4 SEC***
Feb 6, 2013, 10:01 AM
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Its hard to disagree. Compare Auburn and Clemson... Clemson has a lake, Auburn is in the SEC.
You put Clemson in the SEC this year, we probably get Lawson and Adams, maybe RN too.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102354]
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Yeah, I know what you mean...
Feb 6, 2013, 10:04 AM
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my mind is cluttered with idle speculations sometimes too.
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Game Changer [2037]
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My thoughts exactly....
Feb 6, 2013, 10:04 AM
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as good as we do recruiting, we'd be even better if in the SEC.
We even lost Robinson bc of the SEC hype.
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Orange Blooded [3350]
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Why be an armpit school to land recruits.
Feb 6, 2013, 10:07 AM
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We do pretty good keeping the standard right where it is.
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Or use this next year to show that we are every bit the
Feb 6, 2013, 10:05 AM
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equal of any SEC school by beating them on the field and making a run at a National Championship. Screw the SEC, and the ACC for that matter. It isn't about the conference if you win on the field.
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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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Re: Or use this next year to show that we are every bit the
Feb 6, 2013, 11:19 AM
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True, but whether we like it or not, the landscape is changing. Conference branding is becoming a supplement to the program's individual brand. It's becoming the destination for top recruits.
Real world example: in the field of biotechnology, there are two main clusters which rule the rest: Boston and Silicon Valley. Are there other great areas for biotechnology (like Raleigh and San Diego, among others)? Sure. But the best minds and funding goes to Boston or SV.
Similarly, it's possible to successful outside of the SEC obviously. However the majority of super successful programs--such as Texas, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, and Ohio State--are national brands. Clemson isn't. Having the SEC badge on our jerseys would potentially mean Lawson and Adams are Clemson Tigers right now.
I admit, I was probably overreacting witrh this thread fresh off the Adams loss, but SOMETHING needs to be done about our football program, whether it be leaving the ACC, or trying to force others into making serious investments.
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Paw Master [16638]
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Re: Or use this next year to show that we are every bit the
Feb 6, 2013, 12:09 PM
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"I admit, I was probably overreacting witrh this thread fresh off the Adams loss, but SOMETHING needs to be done about our football program, whether it be leaving the ACC, or trying to force others into making serious investments."
Something has to be done about our program that went 11-2 and beat two out of three SEC teams last year, and is having a great recruiting day?
Get over it. We aren't in the SEC. We don't need to be. Ten years from now the SEC might be a shadow of its current self. You never know. Leaving the ACC would in and of itself be a disaster unless the SEC did come a callin'.
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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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Re: Or use this next year to show that we are every bit the
Feb 6, 2013, 12:38 PM
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I'm thinking about the long-term. Again, I think I was overreacting a bit, but people complain about the SEC-bias on channels like ESPN...and this signing day is showing just how much love the SEC is getting from the recruits. 7 of the 14 teams in the SEC are ranked in the top 11 recruiting classes. That's absurd.
I think if we're not careful, the rich will get richer to the point where a 5-star in a Southern state will rarely land outside of the SEC.
My ideal path wouldn't be to go to the SEC, it'd be the resurrection of some of our ACC programs (VTech and Miami, along with the addition of Louisville)...but I feel like as long as Swofford is in charge, he'll always try to direct the conference towards hoops.
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Trainer [26]
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no way
Feb 6, 2013, 10:18 AM
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Sec fans have ruined that thougt for me. i will never ride the coattails of bammer. Yes we would benefit from it but would it really be worth it. USuc would fight tooth and nail to keep us out b/c Clemson in the SEC is their worst nightmare. thats the only thing that would bring me pleasure. I'd rather wait to see what happens when the playoffs start. All we need now is to continue improving and get close to playing for a NC. That and quit letting USuC spend triple than us
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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 11:22 AM
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Thank you, Mackenzie Alexander, for giving me hope.
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Oculus Spirit [40323]
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"F" the SEC they are a bunch of Choads***
Feb 6, 2013, 11:24 AM
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Game Day Hero [4309]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 11:33 AM
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..so we can recruit like SCar?
Listen, I don't want any other ACC school to get any top recruits. That just makes it harder for us to win.
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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 11:39 AM
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It's a catch 22. If our opponents all suck, we "win" in the short-term, but ultimately our lack of competition will soften us up and result in a bad team. The United States is the best economy in the world because it's ultra-competitive and therefore companies need to outdo one another consistently to stay on top of their game.
The SEC is a perfect example of this in football right now. Alabama, LSU, Florida, Georgia all battle it out every single year, and 3/4 teams have multiple national titles since 2001. We need the ACC to do well in recruiting so we can play in important, competitive games against good teams and thus continue to land quality recruits.
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Rival Killer [2628]
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Nah.... We gotta whipp the $EC***
Feb 6, 2013, 11:40 AM
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All-TigerNet [10402]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 11:42 AM
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The ACC is just fine,the ACC is prolly the 2nd best conf over all and the Football will get better.
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Valley Legend [12609]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 11:44 AM
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Baloney - what we have to is go undefeated in our own conference and take care of USC on a regular basis. You do that and you are in the NC mix. Now is that going to be easier in the SEC or the ACC?
The ACC and SEC over the past decade or so have about the same number of players in the NFL, so if these recruits are thinking about that, their choice of conference shouldn't make a big difference. No one wants to talk about academics, but the ACC in general runs rings around the SEC.
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Dynasty Maker [3434]
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Re: We gotta get into the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 12:43 PM
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The problem is, many of these recruits aren't necessarily looking at the players being put into the NFL. They're looking at the great college games on the TV--and those are generally in the SEC.
I honestly think we're putting ourselves in a great position this year with UGA, FSU, and SCar on the schedule (assuming we can play to our potential)...but we need the rest of the conference to pick it up.
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Team Captain [489]
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You act like we can't lose to any of those teams you just
Feb 6, 2013, 11:46 AM
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named.
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CU Guru [1103]
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No, we don't.***
Feb 6, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Gridiron Giant [15539]
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Why? So we can win 10/11 games and still not make the SEC
Feb 6, 2013, 12:47 PM
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hampionship game like someone else we know.
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