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You should grab a gun and go after some Jews.
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All the rage in America these days.
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Just when you think you've seen the most idiotic maga post ever.***
May 24, 2025, 10:48 AM
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Re: Just when you think you've seen the most idiotic maga post ever.***
May 24, 2025, 2:05 PM
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He either did not read the article, or wants to grab a rifle and go after some Palestinian children.
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Re: You should grab a gun and go after some Jews.
May 24, 2025, 11:19 AM
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KeoweeIndians - how about you re-read your post and tell me if you’re still comfortable with your post.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 7:44 AM
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Sad, but who knows the details of how it ended up happening. There are no details in the story.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Netanyahu’s Minister of National Security, Itamar Ben-Givir, is the leader of the Jewish Power, has called mass murderer Baruch Goldstein, who killed 29 people and wounded 100 more in 1994, his “hero.” Just imagine if the US Secretary of Defense was the leader of the White Power Party, and went on TV to call Dylan Roof or Robert Gregory Bowers (perpetrator of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue massacre) his hero. Epithets like “extremist” get thrown around a lot these days, and it has made many people unable to recognize the real thing when they see it. We have no business even associating with a government that includes men like Ben-Gvir in such high positions, let alone giving them our unconditional backing.
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Unfortunately any discussion of Netanyahu rapidly turns to antisemitism
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May 24, 2025, 7:44 AM
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The nuance of criticizing Netanyahu and at the same time condemning antisemitism is lost in most discussions. This phenomenon prevents any open and constructive debate.
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Re: Unfortunately any discussion of Netanyahu rapidly turns to antisemitism
May 24, 2025, 7:48 AM
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Exactly. They aren't far off from just saying they approve of Hamas and the terrorist attack by Hamas was a hoax.
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I am convinced he had something to do with Oct 7th...
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May 24, 2025, 9:30 AM
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Having been to Israel many times, it's hard for me to believe that Hamas gunmen waltzed into that fortified country like they did.
Netanyahu was on his way out because he is a criminal and needed the distraction from his crimes and power grab in the government.
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Re: I am convinced he had something to do with Oct 7th...
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I’m with you on that. Hard for me to believe they just waltzed into Israel without anyone knowing.
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Haha, no.***
May 24, 2025, 11:52 PM
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Let's remember that...
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May 27, 2025, 7:53 AM
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Next time you sit on your thumbs when SOLOs, RLowTD, and your other fellow crazies on this site state that 9/11 was an inside job.
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You and I agree on this
May 24, 2025, 7:00 PM
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Egypt warned Netanyahu about 3 days before the Oct 7 attack.
Netanyahu responded by either helping to orchestrate the Israeli music festival to a site closer to the Gaza border-or- chose to stay silent if he knew that the festival had, on its own, planned to move the venue closer to Gaza.
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I have crossed many borders into Israel. It's not easy.***
May 24, 2025, 11:53 PM
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Re: Netanyahu
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May 24, 2025, 8:04 AM
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It's hard to watch, but this war has entered a phase essentially for an unconditional surrender of Hamas.
FDR, Churchill and Stalin continued to kill civilians and destroy German infrastructure long after a negotiated settlement could have been reached. The goal was unconditional surrender with the elimination of a threat down the road.
Until Hamas is utterly destroyed and Israel has full control of Gaza, unfortunately innocents will die.
It is absolutely awful what is happening in Gaza, but I understand Netanyahu's desire to eliminate or drastically curtail risks to Israel in the future.
Hezbollah and Iran got a taste of what could happen.
War is horrific and unfortunately innocents are often casualties.
Israel aims to finish what Hamas started on 10/7/23 and what was widely applauded in Gaza at the time.
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Re: Netanyahu
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May 24, 2025, 8:19 AM
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They have full control now. There is not really a true Hamas anymore, just a few insurgents and people fighting for their lives and mainly a population getting starved and culled. I really hope all the continued killing isn’t solely for population control, but that what it looks like. You don’t kill that many children by accident.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 8:23 AM
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There is still a true Hamas and they kill their own Palestinian opposition in Gaza.
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Re: Netanyahu
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May 24, 2025, 8:28 AM
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It’s just an excuse for the genocide now.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 8:31 AM
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Okay. You're a loon.
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And what about the settlers? Every Zionist has an excuse for that too.
May 24, 2025, 9:34 AM
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The Jewish community can make all the excuses they want for all the terrible things they are doing but the world is not behind them, nor should anyone.
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Re: And what about the settlers? Every Zionist has an excuse for that too.
May 24, 2025, 9:37 AM
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Yep and people like you can make all the excuses you want for why this war is happening. In the end you won't change anything luckily. You're just naive. It's much more nuanced than Israel just being genocidal maniacs as you prefer to frame it.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 7:01 PM
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What irony.
Netanyahu learned the template for how it (Oct 7) is done via the Reichstag fire.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 6:06 PM
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When soldiers ##### in civilian populations, civilians get killed. Blame the terrorists using the kids for human shields.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 7:04 PM
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Indeed, Hamas itself has, and still does, terrible things.
Don’t forget; Israel created Hamas as a ‘gang war’ opponent to the PLO (Ararat’s Palestine Liberation Organization). Reap what you sow.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 27, 2025, 1:58 AM
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Are you there?
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Pre Oct 7th, Netanyahu & his government were likely incompetent
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May 24, 2025, 8:34 AM
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If not complicit in allowing Hamas to plan, train and execute their terrorist attack. Qatar financially supported Gaza with Israeli knowledge for years. It’s likely these funds also supported Hamas. There’s ample evidence that Netanyahu’s motives have been and continue to be political.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/11/middleeast/qatar-hamas-funds-israel-backing-intl
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Re: Pre Oct 7th, Netanyahu & his government were likely incompetent
May 24, 2025, 8:41 AM
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True. It's all pretty convoluted though and anyone who says they know for sure about anything as far as motiives with this war/humanitarian crisis/cluster funk, is absolutely full of shyt. This thing is much more nuanced than Israel bad.
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It is possible to support Israel and not Netanyahu
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May 24, 2025, 9:02 AM
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It’s also possible to condemn Hamas and support humanitarian aid to innocents in Gaza.
It gets very complicated especially when Hamas is ingrained in every aspect of life in Gaza. It’s oversimplified to say Gazans should overthrow Hamas when Hamas are the bad guys with weapons. History is full of cases where tyrannical governments and armies subject their populations to unimaginable harm. This is also happening in Africa and elsewhere in the world.
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Re: It is possible to support Israel and not Netanyahu
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Exactly. I agree. I never once thought the people could just overthrow Hamas. Overthrowing the government is far fetched pretty much everywhere.
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Re: Pre Oct 7th, Netanyahu & his government were likely incompetent
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May 24, 2025, 9:45 AM
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The Likudniks have supported Hamas from the beginning as a way to divide the Palestinians and kill the two-state solution. Netanyahu pressured Qatar to keep funding them.
Israel has broken every single agreement since 1988 when Jordan agreed to give up their claim to the West Bank and revoke the Jordanian passports from the native population in exchange for Israel promising to allow a Palestinian state. And then the f*cking Oslo accords that eventually led to a Likudnik assassinating Rabin.
They are killing, maiming, and destroying with the intent that some good people will say enough and offer refuge to the Gazans. Then, of course, Israel will never allow them back into Gaza. Ethnic Cleansing 201.
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Wrong.
May 24, 2025, 9:31 AM
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Starving children is NEVER justified. NEVER. And is a war crime, period.
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Re: Wrong.
May 24, 2025, 9:39 AM
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Okay...well what Americans were charged after WWII? Was your grandfather complicit?
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Re: Wrong.
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You need to study a little history. The Geneva Convention that established these actions as war crimes was held in 1949. WWII ended a year or two before that (I'll make you look it up to find out when it actually ended).
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Re: Wrong.
May 24, 2025, 9:50 AM
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I don't need to study history. I am quite aware. You're so ignorant to not realize that the victors in every war commit war crimes. By the way Einstein, people were charged for war crimes after WWII.
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Re: Wrong.
May 24, 2025, 9:59 AM
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Not for things going on in Gaza - collective punishment, forced starvation, and intentionally targeting civilians. That's we needed the 1949 Geneva convention. I'm still stuck on the 20,000 children killed in Gaza - no way that's not intentional. It really, really looks like Likudnik population control.
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Re: Wrong.
May 24, 2025, 10:03 AM
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I see it as not intentional as in directly trying to kill the children. At the most it reckless and without regard in order to achieve a different goal. If someone wanted to argue that, I couldn't argue against it, because it's an issue that can be brought up. Some would argue why it is necessary and others would say it's a crime.
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You're clumsily defending this over partisanship
May 27, 2025, 7:55 AM
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There's plenty to defend Israel on. This blockade is not one of them, and it's pretty weak to claim it isn't intentional. If it's NOT intentional and the results are so obvious, they would stop. Nobody who is unintentionally starving children keeps doing it once it's been brought to their attention.
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Re: You're clumsily defending this over partisanship
May 27, 2025, 7:57 AM
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It's going over your head. It's a little more nuanced than you are somehow missing.
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Okay. Help me with nuance of all these children...
May 27, 2025, 8:06 AM
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Dying from famine and missile strikes?
Here's one, not 24 hours old.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9yjj54v3xo
Don't tell me this is the only way to fight this war because there are plenty of examples to the contrary.
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Re: Okay. Help me with nuance of all these children...
May 27, 2025, 5:33 PM
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Plenty of wars have been fought with one side placing high regard on civilian casualties. That side almost always lost.
Have you studied England's incendiary campaign of WW2? Little boy and Fat man kill many civilians?
We won that war. Last one we ever won, but we won it.
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Re: Okay. Help me with nuance of all these children...
May 28, 2025, 8:26 AM
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Plenty of wars have been fought with one side placing high regard on civilian casualties. That side almost always lost.
Evidence of this claim?
Using the A bombs wound up saving more civilian lives than killing them. It was a matter of what could end the war the quickest with the fewest deaths. That is not comparable to this situation in Gaza.
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And those health care workers intentional targeted, the cover up, killing of...
May 24, 2025, 10:31 AM
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..witnesses.
Its a long list, and it goes on.
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Re: And those health care workers intentional targeted, the cover up, killing of...
May 24, 2025, 6:03 PM
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Mostly probably bullshyt and the context isn't known anyway in the fog of war.
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Re: Wrong.
May 24, 2025, 5:59 PM
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Sherman’s doctrine of total warfare.
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Author Rick Atkinson wrote an excellent trilogy re USAs war in Europe
May 24, 2025, 7:09 PM
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Each book in the trilogy is a long read, but IMO one of the most comprehensuve accounts of the entirety of America’s conduct during WW II.
The good, bad, smart, and stupid parts of America’s activities fighting the Italians and Germans are covered in (sometimes excruciating) detail.
FWIW.
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All starving of children is evil, whether my grandfather or anyone else does it.
May 24, 2025, 10:29 AM
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I guess that's the difference between me and you. I would call my tribe out if they were doing the horrible things that yours is in Gaza.
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And when Hamas steals aid and uses it to help support its...
May 24, 2025, 11:52 AM
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effort to continue killing Jews...what then?
It's dang sure not as a simple as cutting off food for kids or not. It's ugly all the way around, but let's hold Hamas accountable too.
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Killing innocent people is how you get Hamas.***
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Re: Killing innocent people is how you get Hamas.***
May 27, 2025, 7:40 AM
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Nice excuse.
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He has been, along with Gallant. If he does get voted out, not only does his Israeli trial start up again, but Israel has to turn him over to the ICC (they are signatories, the US isn’t).
This is why he can’t travel many places, mainly Hungary after a lot of guarantees and the US.
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Re: Netanyahu
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There is a 0% chance they would ever turn him over. You have a better chance at winning Lotto . The only consequences in life he might possibly pay is for his corruption issues in Israel. Israel would never hand him over abroad though for this war.
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Then they will have to pull out of the ICC treaty. He’s fundamentally evil and taking Israel down a dark, dark path.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Hé may be fundamentally evil for the sake of argument, but they don't have to do anything.
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Re: Netanyahu
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We dropped nukes on a civilian population. England fire bombed a civilian population. That is how you actually win wars.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 9:59 PM
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Those things didn’t actually win wars. We just did them because we were much less civilized than we are today.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 27, 2025, 7:42 AM
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Yeah, they actually did win wars and we aren't anymore civilized today. We would do it again if we felt it was needed as we did then.
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I know it's simplistic, but has Hamas returned all of the hostages?...
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No?
Then....
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Re: I know it's simplistic, but has Hamas returned all of the hostages?...
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Why don't they give that a shot and call Israel's bluff? What do they have to gain by keeping the hostages?
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It's a valid question...
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When you use innocents as cover and all the other crap they do...I think it might just be as simple as eff them until they return the hostages and disband.
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Re: It's a valid question...
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None of the Israel and Jew haters ever mention it,.nor do they care about the hostages. Why doesn't Hamas hand them over?
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When the innocents and civilians are killed largely because the....
May 25, 2025, 2:23 PM
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terrorists use them as shields.... unfortunately, yes.
What other choice is there? We should continue to hold the terrorists at fault.
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Do you honestly believe this?
May 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
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I know it's like a cliche and for people who have never been to war it's easy to believe the terrorists are just holed up in a building with a bunch of hostages to protect themselves. But that's not how it works. The majority of people in a war zone are just trying to live their lives and the bad guys just happen to live near them.
Gaza is one of the most populated areas in the world. The mass destruction you're seeing isn't necessary to fight Hamas. No more than the US needing to bomb entire neighborhoods because gang members happen to live in the neighborhood. No one would advocate dropping bombs from airplanes in the US onto residential buildings. It's nonsensical to think it works in other countries.
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2025/1/20/aerial-photos-show-scale-of-israeli-destruction-in-gaza
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Re: Do you honestly believe this?
May 26, 2025, 10:08 AM
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The Hamas fighters are using the civilians as cover. The mass destruction is necessary to fight Hamas, to limit Hamas, to delegitimize Hamas. Anyway, Hamas is hiding among civilians for protection. If they separated themselves from civilians they would be defeated within a couple of weeks and of course they don't want that.
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If you don't think Hamas uses innocents as protection...
May 27, 2025, 7:37 AM
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then you haven't been paying attention. And I'm not referring to the hostages.
I'm not going to argue with you about something that is fact.
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The problem is you don't really understand that fact
May 27, 2025, 10:58 PM
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but that's the hallmark of a low information voter.
It's a fact that operating near civilian populations and infrastructure can be considered using "human shields." It's also a fact that Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the entire world, so it's impossible to operate without being near civilian populations or infrastructure.
It's the nuance that matters between two 'facts'
Israel ambushing and massacring 15 ambulance workers isn't because of definition of human shields.
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Re: The problem is you don't really understand that fact
May 27, 2025, 11:13 PM
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They are are purposely hiding among civilians and could easily separate themselves from the civilians. That said, if they did that it would mean certain defeat and death. Therefore, they hide a mind civilians. It's pretty straightforward.
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Now take that to the logical conclusion
May 27, 2025, 11:34 PM
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So you just get to kill a 35,000 civilians because of that?
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Re: Now take that to the logical conclusion
May 27, 2025, 11:40 PM
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Yep it happens. That's war. No, they just won't let them go as long as they are hiding in populated areas and just give up on it .
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You ever actually been in war?
May 27, 2025, 11:52 PM
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Have you ever actually watched someone die like that in person?
What you're describing isn't war. It’s terrorism.
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Re: You ever actually been in war?
May 28, 2025, 12:30 AM
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I have never been in war, but I have seen a couple die. I do know about war history though and death. What I am describing is reality. You're just very ignorant and naive.
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You can't handle the truth! We want class09 on that wall...we NEED him...
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May 28, 2025, 7:39 AM
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on that wall!
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As someone who has actually fought in war
May 28, 2025, 7:41 AM
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I can assure that you are describing how terrorists operate and not how a functional Army/Government works.
You're literally saying it's alright to massacre civilians to deter the enemy. That's the definition of terrorism and not war.
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Re: As someone who has actually fought in war
May 28, 2025, 8:45 AM
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Neat, but you're wrong. I don't believe you actually fought in the war. You might have been in the military, but that doesn't mean you were in combat, because most are not.. Either way, if you did you would know that there were 200k Iraqi civilians killed in that war. There are estimates that 50k might have died in Afghanistan which isn't even as dense. If you follow history you would know that up to as much as 3 million civilians died in Germany in WWII. The density of population and where the fighting it taking place and the tactics of Hamas fighters, lead to more civilians deaths. Then you add that Israel is killing them wherever they are even when they are hiding among civilians and it's particularly bloody. It can be called reckless or even criminal, but it's the reality of this war and nobody will ever be prosecuted for war crimes on either side.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 4:43 PM
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When a former prime minister says Israel's actions are "very close to war crimes," you know he means that the actions are literally war crimes. He'll never actually say Israel is committing war crimes, but everyone knows what he meant.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 6:07 PM
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He is a liberal. We dropped nukes on Japan. Quit whining about Israel.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 12:01 AM
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Not exactly. He was a moderate in Likud until they became all extremists like their terrorist founders. He left with Sharon and other reasonable people.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 29, 2025, 7:23 PM
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I turned out to be wrong. Olmert came out and said plainly thet Israel is committing war crimes.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 5:53 PM
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Nah. He should be allowed to apply Sherman’s Doctrine of total warfare. We did it in American Civil War, WWI, and WWII. We actually won those wars. Have not won a war since we started following “rules”.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 5:56 PM
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The war criminals are the soldiers embedding in civilian population to protect themselves from airstrikes.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 9:00 PM
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IDF is doing the same thing in Gaza. Forcing civilians to go into tunnels and buildings in front of them as human shields. Sourced from both Palestinian civilians and IDF soldiers.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 10:47 PM
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That’s good. They following a tactic of Sherman.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 24, 2025, 11:50 PM
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Sherman didn't do that you stupid f*ck. He did plenty of evil, but he didn't do that.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 8:23 AM
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It is well documented that he made Confederate POW fund and clear mines during his march to the Sea. Google it and choose which one of the numerous sources you trust.
I actually learned about it in college.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 8:26 AM
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I meant find, not fund.
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May 25, 2025, 10:25 AM
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That's a good story I never knew about. But it doesn't sound the same. Using POWs to dig up land mines that they or their units buries isn't the same thing as forcing noncombatants to do the same thing. Israel is using noncombatants.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 1:20 PM
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POW are noncombatants. The people Israel was supposedly using could not have been civilians with no ties to Hamas. If they had no ties to Hamas, they would have had no value as shields. Hamas kills non Hamas indiscriminately, with no value placed in their life.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 1:27 PM
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What a load of junk. No, they are just civilians and those people will get shot or blown up first. It protects the Israeli soldiers. They are civilians. I support Israel and maybe they have to use civilians, but they are civilians.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 2:18 PM
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I didn’t say they were not civilians. I said they had to be civilians with ties to Hamas.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 2:20 PM
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No they don't. It can just be any dude. No ties needed. Just a civilian who can take the blast or shots first.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 4:16 PM
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The point of human shields is to stop the enemy from shooting.
When fighting terrorists, you can’t Sunday school tactics.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 4:21 PM
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Well, in this scenario it is so the person detonates a bomb or gets shot first or that nothing happens and it's safe. You don't know what you are talking about.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 26, 2025, 8:00 PM
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I know exactly what I am talking about.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 26, 2025, 8:01 PM
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No. As usual you have no idea and you are in fact 100% wrong in this scenario.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 26, 2025, 8:44 PM
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Just because you say so?
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Re: Netanyahu
May 26, 2025, 9:09 PM
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Because it is fact and it is known and they are interviewed. They grab regular male civilians and use them as shields. We do it war at times as well. It's common.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 26, 2025, 11:39 PM
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We paid people in Afghanistan and Iraq for this. If they are compelled like Israel does, it’s a war crime. We committed plenty of war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the military tried to hold a number of the criminals like Gallagher accountable. Shitzenpants pardoned them.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 27, 2025, 7:02 AM
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It's different than the Gallagher situationz whether right or wrong. Gallagher just shot people for fun in the distance and murder was the intention.
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May 27, 2025, 9:13 PM
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There have definitely been IDF forces shooting people for fun, or panicking and shooting the wrong people, including hostages. It's a disaster that doesn't have to be this way.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 27, 2025, 9:26 PM
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Yep it happens with nuts in war. Some people are psychopaths and are soldiers. As far as the people being forced in front of soldiers as shields. The goal is that they live though as far as best case scenario. Gallagher just wanted them dead and was picking them off.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 25, 2025, 8:32 PM
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"POWs are noncombatants?" You need to go back to school maybe.
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Re: Netanyahu
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Probably a smart call.
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You and I agree that Netanyahu is bad for Israel & USA
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This guy is no friend of America.
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Re: You and I agree that Netanyahu is bad for Israel & USA
May 25, 2025, 8:42 AM
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And why do you say that?
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The classic, "you participate in society therefore you can't do anything to make
May 25, 2025, 9:29 AM
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it better" meme
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Re: The classic, "you participate in society therefore you can't do anything to make
May 25, 2025, 10:32 AM
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I don't understand what that means in this scenario.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 27, 2025, 11:30 PM
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Ya’ll still arguing about this?
It’s really pretty simple.
Netanyahu should be charged with war crimes.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 28, 2025, 8:35 AM
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Debatable and not that simple.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 30, 2025, 8:42 AM
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This is really simple.
Netanyahu is guilty of war crimes.
Netanyahu should be charged with war crimes.
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Re: Netanyahu
May 30, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Not that simple and he will never be turned over anyway.
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