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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 1:28 PM
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yup.. #### these track clowns.
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 1:34 PM
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David Hale is a #### ant.
Why would the Track team go there anyway? They sound salty.
After the 2016 Natty win, we drove to the stadium to welcome back the team. I saw Hunter Renfrow drive off in a Camry and Wayne Gallman and Dexter Lawrence get in a Honda Civic. That was a sight. No high dollar cars there. And you go over to the Football Center, no high dollar SUVs or cars there anytime I’ve been.
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I was Clemson one day and saw Hunter Renfrow
May 18, 2021, 2:37 PM
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riding around on a moped.
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You were Clemson one day?
May 18, 2021, 2:45 PM
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And don't bother changing it, I already took a screenshot.
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I can't believe people who stretch the truth
May 18, 2021, 3:01 PM
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or misinterpret the facts.
Don't you just hate that?
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*misrepresent the facts...
May 18, 2021, 4:28 PM
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and yes, I do.
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I mean, this isn’t rocket surgery.***
May 18, 2021, 6:38 PM
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This allegation is potentially quite damaging to football
May 18, 2021, 1:39 PM
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at Clemson.
Although Clemson denies it, that allegation had to have something to do with the quick settlement with the track and cross country teams.
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CU Medallion [64637]
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It's simple economics...
May 18, 2021, 1:46 PM
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It would likely be more costly to go through a protracted litigation that you might lose and be exposed to paying damages in addition to the plaintiffs legal fees, than it would be to continue funding the program.
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I got a settlement when I was at Clemson . . .
May 18, 2021, 2:01 PM
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My dad told me it was settled, that if I didn't graduate I was going to work in a cotton mill. The ironic thing was when I did graduate, I worked in textiles for 41 years as a lint head!
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I would tend to agree with you if
May 18, 2021, 2:46 PM
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Clemson hadn't originally made the decision to cut track and cross country sound so definitive.
They had to know that they would receive backlash, to the point that a lawsuit wouldn't be surprising.
Still, I'm not denying that the finances of settling versus fighting played into the recent reversal. Bringing the football program into this was also a big reason as well. How couldn't it be?
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Oh, they have the goods
May 18, 2021, 8:54 PM
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Where there’s smoke there’s fire, guilty until proven innocent, etc. etc.
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No, I wouldn't.
May 18, 2021, 2:47 PM
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You might though, since it seems that you aren't even a Clemson fan.
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He's obviously a Clemson fan...WTH are you talking about?***
May 19, 2021, 12:00 AM
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Re: sure lawyers always tell the truth***
May 18, 2021, 2:42 PM
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Yeah, just ask that Buzbee dood.
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Except it's not just lawyers, it's Clemson student-athletes.
May 18, 2021, 2:49 PM
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They even quoted one of the track athletes in the article, stating that she has noticed a disproportionate number of football players driving nice cars.
No one is saying that there is any truth to the allegations, but as a Clemson football fan I'm concerned that allegations such as these are the kind of thing opportunistic media outlets will run with.
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I want a clean program and believe we are one...
May 18, 2021, 2:54 PM
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...but 85 guys are on full scholarship on that football team. It is not inconceivable that their parents saved a couple bucks for college and celebrated their son’s success by using that money for a car since they were saving over six figures by not having to pay tuition, room and board.
Really, using something like “oh, I see guys getting full rides driving nice cars” as evidence of anything is pathetic. Just pathetic.
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I agree with you.
May 18, 2021, 3:00 PM
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I have every confidence that our program does things the right way, and doesn't cheat.
I also have no reason to believe that any boosters or others who consider themselves fans/supporters would be providing perks like cars or scooters to our football players. Nor do I believe the high character guys we have on our team would be dumb enough to accept impermissible gifts.
The problem is that the football program is an easy target because it's high profile and makes a lot of money for the athletic department. So someone can see a football player driving an Escalade and assume that it must be a result of shadiness, whereas no one thinks that when it's a soccer player, golfer, etc. driving a luxury car.
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Re: I agree with you.
May 18, 2021, 6:30 PM
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Do you get dou*che chills every time you post or just most of the time?
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How exactly did I “throw shade” at our football program?
May 18, 2021, 10:37 PM
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I expressed concern that allegations that our football program is cheating could really be harmful. A national news story about this could create a lot of unnecessary drama we don’t want here.
I didn’t create this story. I simply reacted to it.
You’re being ridiculous. You frequently attack me for no reason. It makes you look pathetic.
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Here ya go, again...
May 18, 2021, 11:04 PM
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..."that allegation had to have something to do with the quick settlement". Had to? Really? I respond to your ridiculous attacks on our football program. And I will continue to do so.
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You don’t think those comments from that track athlete got the AD’s attention?
May 18, 2021, 11:27 PM
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It’s ludicrous that you think my post is an attack on our football program. I’m not attacking our football program at all!!
My point is that football is really important at Clemson, and the AD is going to be extremely intentional about protecting it at all costs.
In my opinion, the Clemson track athlete’s allegations that our football program is providing illegal benefits to players played a significant role in the decision to keep track and cross country. You’re welcome to disagree, but not with personal attacks.
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No, it wouldn’t. Which is why I expressed my concern about it.
May 18, 2021, 10:39 PM
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Are you always this insecure?
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Why do you seem to get all giddy at the first hint...
May 18, 2021, 10:06 PM
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...of a negative report within the football program? You seem to enjoy it and try to stir the crap to divert attention from our under-performing basketball program. It's very transparent and kinda sad. "That allegation had to have something to do with the quick settlement". Really? It had to? Ridiculous. And yes, I gave you a TD.
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yeah i have noticed that as well.its rather odd***
May 18, 2021, 10:15 PM
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Not just odd. It's obvious. Guy posts numerous times...
May 18, 2021, 10:32 PM
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...in any thread that has negative takes on the football program (current or former players). I guess it's therapeutic for him somehow.
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What on earth are you talking about?!?
May 18, 2021, 10:44 PM
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I posted elsewhere that I don’t think those allegations are true. I am confident that our football program does things the right way.
As a result, I don’t want such baseless claims being made about our football program. I’m confident Clemson feels the same way.
I’m not sure why you keep attacking me. What’s your deal?
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Does this sound familiar?
May 18, 2021, 11:14 PM
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"that allegation had to have something to do with the quick settlement". Seems very straight-forward to me. You endorsed this baseless claim. Is there some other way to interpret it? Or would you like to just keep dancing around it and try to make me think you meant something else?
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I didn’t endorse the track athlete’s claim.
May 18, 2021, 11:31 PM
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In fact, I’ve stated elsewhere in this thread that I find it completely baseless.
However, you’re being naive if you don’t think the CUAD takes such accusations very seriously. They don’t want stuff like that gaining traction, despite it being false.
I never stated nor implied that I think there is any concern at Clemson that those allegations are true.
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If you don’t think our athletic department was motivated to quickly
May 18, 2021, 10:41 PM
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resolve things in order to prevent allegations about our football program from getting steam, then you really don’t understand how important the football program is at Clemson.
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And that is your Achilles Heel...
May 18, 2021, 11:44 PM
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...the fact that the football program is that important and our under-performing basketball program is not. You seem obsessed with that fact. To the extent that you constantly make posts to throw shade at the football program whenever the opportunities arise in your own little snide way. The examples are numerous, and too many to waste my time on. That is, very simply, my problem with you.
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Careful...If you make him cry he will use hours to vote down
May 19, 2021, 12:06 AM
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1000s of your previous posts.
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Re: If you don’t think our athletic department was motivated to quickly
May 18, 2021, 11:57 PM
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You’ve moved into absolute idiocy. I’ve known you were a troll but this is as stupid as it gets. You think Clemson promptly resolves pending or potential ligation to the benefit of the accuser when it knows, or even just believes, the accusations are false. Maybe after due diligence and legal advice but you believe the second they catch wind of a football allegation they roll belly up. Especially an accusation as startling as “I think football players drive nice cars.” Not, “I know XYZ auto is giving free cars to players” or “So and So is making car payments for people.” Just - “muh feels is football has too nice cars, derp.” Yeah - we should totally head that crap off in an equally suspicious manner. Why the f*ck don’t we all just demand seats in the suites or we’ll talk about the $500 handshakes we’ve been making after practices. They certainly don’t want it to gain any traction. As the Brownell era winds to a sad, slow close you are becoming completely unhinged. Yes, you were throwing shade as you do over and over again to anything and everything Clemson related other than Brad Brownell. You’re pretty #### hostile to the basketball program too. It’s only Brad that merits respect.
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I think tne women row team was given money as
May 18, 2021, 1:42 PM
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As part of the settlement as well..
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 1:58 PM
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Didn’t a prized recruit/player miss a few games because of a moped crash a few years back? I dont remember who but man it must have been one tricked out top of the line solid gold wheels type of moped to pass on the Bugatti.
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 2:33 PM
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I remember a 300 pound o-lineman getting arrested for DUI on a moped
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Hol-Lee ####. So you're telling me that not only did these
May 18, 2021, 2:38 PM
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jack##### publicly run Clemson's name through the mud, but they implied improprieties in the football program that they cannot substantiate, presumably as a threat to Clemson's administration.
I cannot believe that jack### was on here thanking everyone for their support. What a bunch of selfish jerks. Really, I've never seen anything like it...offered the same scholarship that they are getting for the remainder of their time at Clemson but no...they are ENTITLED to run track at Clemson and they will burn it to the ground if they don't get there way.
One of two things are happening here...either they had evidence of improprieties in the football program and they have agreed to keep it quiet in exchange for maintaining the track program (highly unlikely) or they were willing to smear our beloved football program to get what they wanted, truth be ######. Either way, they are garbage and not in any way Clemson men.
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Re: Hol-Lee ####. So you're telling me that not only did these
May 18, 2021, 3:31 PM
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If that is the character of the members of the track team, makes me wish we had jettisoned the program.
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So one or two track players speak for all of them?
May 18, 2021, 4:25 PM
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Come on, you're better than that.
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Apparently at least one or two are trying to speak...
May 18, 2021, 4:27 PM
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for all of them. That's one of the consequences of being part of something bigger than just you, your actions reflect on the entire group.
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So would you say it’s fair to conclude that our football team is dirty
May 18, 2021, 6:41 PM
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because Skalski was ejected two years in a row for illegal hits?
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I knew you wouldn’t like hearing the truth.
May 18, 2021, 10:47 PM
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You never do.
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I knew you wouldn’t like hearing My truth.
May 19, 2021, 7:45 AM
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FIFY
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It is clear to me that it isn’t the character of the track team.
May 18, 2021, 6:44 PM
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I’ve heard a lot of positive things about the track team these last few months in terms of academic success and community involvement. There is no reason to think they have character issues, and one person’s opinion about the football program shouldn’t change that.
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Re: It is clear to me that it isn’t the character of the track team.
May 18, 2021, 11:20 PM
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Where did you get it is one person? It was the lawyer for the track team. I would think he heard it from the leader(s) of the team involved in the case, as representatives of the team.
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Why are you being so sensitive about this?***
May 18, 2021, 11:32 PM
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Re: Why are you being so sensitive about this?***
May 19, 2021, 12:31 AM
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Why do you feel need to respond to every post like you are omnipotent about the situation?
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 5:14 PM
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Sorry, this reminds me of a story from many years ago. Steve Spurrier was HC at Florida. In one of his many rants against FSU he included the line, "Their players drive nicer cars than ours do. That's just the way they do it up there."
The implication was obvious.
One reporter decided to check out the story. He found a black player at FSU driving a nice car. (I think the Player was Peter Boulware - not sure, but I know he was from SC.) The reporter ran a story about this guy and his nice car without checking out the facts. (Obviously no black player could afford such a nice car. FSU had to be cheating.) The fact was the dad of the player was a surgeon in Columbia.
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 6:23 PM
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Where’s @mbpeach to tell us how they didn’t do anything to try and hurt the school?
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 6:46 PM
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Remember when Brad Brownell had an assistant coach who attempted to proclaim that Dabo was cheating. It seems all the non-revenue sports are trying to take the one who pays their bills.
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And that basketball assistant was promptly fired.
May 18, 2021, 10:47 PM
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Don’t forget that.
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Re: Track team dragging the football team into a mess
May 18, 2021, 7:43 PM
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Read the article attached to the tweet. Our very own mbpeach was name dropped. He must have had something to do with the car accusations.
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I think it is time to finally cancel Track
May 18, 2021, 8:28 PM
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does anyone even show up for this?
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Re: I think it is time to finally cancel Track
May 18, 2021, 10:56 PM
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Cross Country isn’t half bad if you have a Segway.
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Re-cancel the track team***
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