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Tony Elliot interviews for TCU opening

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Nov 8, 2021, 11:55 PM

Please Please Please!!! I can't tske his conservative, slow paced play calling anymore.

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Nov 9, 2021, 12:24 AM

Why so you can complain about the next guy too?

Elliot is a class act. Great coach, he's got 2 national championship rings... how many other OC's have 2?

Who would you hire?

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Evidence would suggest he is NOT a great coach

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:10 AM

Because if you dont have nfl 1st round picks at qb, rb, and receiver your offense doesnt work at all......But if you want to keep having an offense ranked in the bottom half of all of the sport, then, cool story, i guess.

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Could the same not be said of Bama?

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:27 AM

OSU? Who is the last team to win the championship without studs all over the place?

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Im not talking about winning natties


Nov 9, 2021, 7:35 AM

We not even competitive on that side of the ball. Ask wake forest if you need studs all over the field to make an offense work.

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Wake is playing 5th and 6th year seniors

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Nov 9, 2021, 8:26 AM

we started 3 upperclassmen on offense Saturday, including 2 true freshmen, and played 3 other true freshmen.

Where will Wake be next year? Where will Pitt be next year?

I guarantee you not 6-3.

Talent is meaningful, but experience covers a bunch of sins

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Nov 9, 2021, 8:36 AM

Not only that but considering that the disruption that Covid has wrought for those 2 year and less guys vs those 6th year kids (I mean, imagine being on a college since DW4's era... wait, I can - I did it for 10 years - sigh) There has never really been a year that has favored experience this much in the college setting. Heck, you have a few kids having to go the PhD route (I think Memphis had a QB on that track) because they already earned their Bachelors and Masters ... what a world.

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Nov 9, 2021, 10:01 AM

I can say without the Covid 6 year guys Wake And Pitt would not be where they are also including the transfer guys

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Without an elite D, we are a 1-8 football team

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Nov 9, 2021, 10:54 AM

Now I dont care how injured or inexperienced you are, this is a team of mostly 4 and 5 star players, playing in the ACC. There is no way to sugar coat or excuse away where this offense is.

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Do you even read what you write before you post?


Nov 9, 2021, 11:12 AM

Injuries and experience have everything to do with team performance. Very few 4 and 5 star FR are going to come in and dominate a game against experienced upperclassmen. Look at 3 star Skalski for us. That guy has developed into a tremendous player and leader over the years.

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that isn't evidence.. that is speculation

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Nov 9, 2021, 8:02 AM

off a small pool of data

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I dont think you understand what "evidence" is.***


Nov 9, 2021, 10:51 AM



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it's just data


Nov 9, 2021, 11:03 AM

you formed the below Hypothesis

"Because if you don't have nfl 1st round picks at qb, rb, and receiver your offense doesn't work at all..

based off data from this season.

TE is the constant in your experiment. Trever Lawrence and Deshaun Watson are the variables. This indicates the problem is the QB. there is a smaller pool of data from last year that indicates both TE and DJ are just fine. There is also data indicating there are problem sin the WR , OLine, and even on defense.


more than likely are just picking data to support the agenda you already are set on.

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Nov 9, 2021, 11:07 AM

I already notated WR, you even acknowledged the fact. Also mentioned we sit at 1-8 without an elite D. Is the D perfect, no, but certainly good enough to hold their own in every game we have played this year. O-line has never been great, so thats not really a variable that has changed to any meaningful degree.

Point being - you shouldnt need 1st round pick level talent to be able to move the football in the ACC. Literally every other team in the league has proven that.

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let me be clear on what i acknowledge


Nov 9, 2021, 3:02 PM

there is a lot of data and stats. that is all .


give me $500,000 a year to coach and i will start formulating an agenda.

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You’re serious aren’t you?

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Nov 9, 2021, 8:36 AM

Thankfully you’re just a troll and not an actual Clemson fan.

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Do you post anything that isnt mind-numbingly ridiculous?

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Nov 9, 2021, 10:50 AM

Evidence suggests not.

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Those 2 NC rings were when he and Jeff Scott Co-OC's

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:43 AM

They were great together but take one out of the equation then things fall apart

I have never personally met Elliot but he was once a Tiger (player) and will always be a Tiger. I am not denying he is a great guy but so far with he alone calling the plays I haven't been impressed. Just saying

And you can say look back at last year but I think Trevor Lawrence was years ahead of his time and could create plays that no one saw coming. He could read defenses before the defense even knew what they knew they were going to do.

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How many others could have done better with DW or TL ?


Nov 9, 2021, 8:37 AM

Just saying

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With DW & TL plus other talent...


Nov 9, 2021, 3:24 PM

...there simply wasn't good reason to lose many games.

As far as OC talent... sure one could say Elliott was OC during the 2 championship wins, but he was also OC when Clemson's OL faceplanted HARD. And hard enough vs LSU and OSU where even having Lawrence was not enough when the scheming simply failed to produce when it was necessary on the field even with elite talent.

Lets remember those scores.. OSU 49 - 28 LSU 42 - 25. The offense was shut down in the 2nd half scoring 14pts vs OSU and only 8pts vs LSU. That's when Clemson historically tends to score more on opponents by as much as 3 to 1. But in those pivotal games the OL fell drastically
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Nov 9, 2021, 8:43 AM

Correction. He has two CO-CHAMPIONSHIP rings. We also had Jeff Scott. But I guess that doesn't matter because you can't put part of the blame on him for what we are seeing out of our only OC this season.

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Nov 9, 2021, 8:53 AM

Don't care for the "but they won a Natty" excuse. Road is littered with former Natty coaches where program sank into oblivion. (see Phil Fulmer at UT) I hope this program never gets in the shape again where we coasted for years on a Natty like 35 years after the 81 Natty. If it ain't working, Fix it before it gets out of hand again.

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Nov 9, 2021, 9:45 AM

Well said, JPF. TE is a proven asset.

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Nov 9, 2021, 10:08 AM

Jeff Scott made TE look alot better than he was and having Trevor and ETN the last couple years was good enough to mask it. You could slowly see how bad the play calling was even with them, slow start after slow start.....putting all the pressure on the defense.

Literally the best thing that can happen (tho it may be a long shot), is TE taking a HC job anywhere and Jeff Scott realizing HC isn't for him right now and comes back to take back the OC job.

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Nov 9, 2021, 3:30 AM

Rong bored kewt moran

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:38 AM

So what board is a discussion about Tony Elliot supposed to be on?

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i think he is insinuating.. FGF .. maybe?***


Nov 9, 2021, 8:01 AM



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Nov 9, 2021, 6:41 AM

So if he comes back does that mean you’ll leave?
Please! Please!! Please!!!

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Nov 9, 2021, 6:59 AM

and take that huge 52% with him

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:04 AM

OK 74. I was 75 I’m sure we passed on campus many times
You guys please don’t pound me but explain
The % to me.

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:11 AM

It’s your approval rating from the appointed board leaders . If it gets below 40 percent you are faced with banishment or mandatory re-education

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Nov 9, 2021, 7:34 AM

Thanks

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Nov 9, 2021, 9:07 AM

You mean the Tnet koolaide crowd, right?

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Nov 9, 2021, 8:30 AM

Be careful of what you’re asking for - if TE departs, you want Streeter as your OC? We do inbreeding for our coaches.

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That's a fair point. I would feel a lot better about TE

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Nov 9, 2021, 9:06 AM

departing if I thought the coaching search for his replacement would extend further than the Y beach.

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Re: That's a fair point. I would feel a lot better about TE


Nov 9, 2021, 10:05 AM

I feel the same exact way.

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Ahhh another "long time" t-netter coming out of their hole to complain...***


Nov 9, 2021, 2:44 PM



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