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Topic: Today I learned that if you're 65 or older, the odds that
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Today I learned that if you're 65 or older, the odds that

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Posted: Apr 22, 2021, 9:05 PM
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you survive any given year is about 96%... roughly the equivalent of the odds that you'll survive covid.

https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D76;jsessionid=585384F38C05A349A7A52CBC5327

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so your chances of dying from covid = the chances

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 1:23 AM
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of dying from everything else combined. Seems about right.

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Nope, your chances of dying are about the same any year,

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 9:15 AM
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regardless of covid.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 9:31 AM
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I’m still not clear...you don’t think it’s real or you just think it’s overstated?

I’m not sure what to tell you if you don’t think it’s real. People on here have had it and describe it as like nothing they’ve had before, coincidentally all in the last year. I also watched my neighbor be carted out of his house on a stretcher and into an ambulance with it. He quit breathing twice that night. Thankfully he survived but still can’t go to work or work in the yard but just a little bit before he’s out of breath, four months later.

I’d also add that my daughter said the ventilators she has taken out on COVID patients are some of the “nastiest things she has seen.” That’s because the inflammatory process turns your lungs to sludge and you drown in your own fluids.

Now, have there been errors in testing and death counts? I’d guess absolutely, especially cases.

So which one are you saying with your posts?

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 11:48 AM
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I am unsure on what "it" is because the fact is the virus itself hasn't been fully isolated, however I assume based on incomplete information that there is a new strain of cold or flu virus out there this year that does affect some (very small) minority of people worse than a regular seasonal virus.

I believe its reach and effects are vastly over-stated based on many statistical manipulations and changes in procedures that have grossly inflated numbers of cases and deaths.

As to the anecdotes, people describe the flu as "like nothing they've had before" all the time. That didn't just start this year. This year it's been a little more popular to tell those kind of war stories, sure, but that's nothing new.

People on ventilators get their lungs damaged by the ventilator. Even before covid the likelyhood of dying once put on a ventilator was something like 90% (although I forget the exact number.)

The problem is that everything is being treated as some new drastic emergency that requires we give the government totalitarian control over everything and we just trust whatever our masters tell us. None of that is real.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 11:59 AM
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I am unsure on what "it" is because the fact is the virus itself hasn't been fully isolated











SARS-COV-2 genome sequence:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7180649/


https://mra.asm.org/content/9/11/e00169-20


https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0248371

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 1:50 PM
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I'm fully aware of the fake science and fraudulent claims. However, no study has been able to replicate these results using pure SARS-COV-2, meaning that the virus particles were completely separated (fully isolated) from the other genetic material from the sources of the samples.

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Re: Nope, your chances of dying are about the same any year,

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 3:35 PM
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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 12:07 PM
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“I believe its reach and effects are vastly over-stated based on many statistical manipulations and changes in procedures that have grossly inflated numbers of cases and deaths.”

- No they aren’t, there is no inflating covid death numbers by hospitals. This is a demonstrably false conspiracy theory.

“As to the anecdotes, people describe the flu as "like nothing they've had before" all the time. That didn't just start this year. This year it's been a little more popular to tell those kind of war stories, sure, but that's nothing new.”

- You’re very fortunate to have no had it or have any close family, or friends, if you have any, become sick or die from it.

“People on ventilators get their lungs damaged by the ventilator. Even before covid the likelyhood of dying once put on a ventilator was something like 90% (although I forget the exact number.)”

- It’s easy to forget exact numbers that you pull out of your ###. Yes, barotrauma is a thing, as is VAP. Every patient who ever gets general anesthesia for surgery gets put on a vent. I’d bet the likelihood of dying when being put on a vent, even excluding surgery, is probably fractions of a single percent.

“The problem is that everything is being treated as some new drastic emergency that requires we give the government totalitarian control over everything and we just trust whatever our masters tell us. None of that is real.”

- THE ELITE MASTERS WANT CONTROL SHEEPLE. Add another layer of tin foil to the headgear chief.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 1:54 PM
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According to the accepted practices of the government and medical establishment, there is no inflation of the death count. Sure. But according to the practices before 2020, there is. They changed the rules so their fraud would be acceptable and they could print money endlessly.

You assume I haven't had anyone close get sick and/or die, but you're wrong. That happens all the time unfortunately, and it even happened before 2020.

I was obviously talking about people who are sick with respiratory infections, not people in surgery. FFS

If you think it's a conspiracy or something about tin-foil hats to distrust the government, you've obviously never studied history.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 12:08 PM
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Idk what to tell you man. All I know is I completely trust what my daughter is telling me from the front lines. She even dismissed it some back last March because the surge didn’t show up as predicted. She quickly found out in July and even worse in December that it was very real. Filled up an entire satellite hospital that was dedicated just to COVID as well as a couple of med surg floors at her hospital plus the majority of her ICU. Now she is seeing far less COVID patients but says they are younger.

You’re right. It is a version of a cold virus...just one that can go really bad for some people...mostly because of how their bodies react to the dead virus.

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 12:10 PM
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I too trust your daughter’s first hand experience treating COVID patients over random internet conspiracy peddler guy’s “intuitions.”

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When even T3 won't jump on your crazy train, you need

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 12:15 PM
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a serious reevaluation of the information you are receiving.

Your post is not only idiotic Tom but dangerous to yourself and your family.

I really hope you're trolling. If not,

You have gone too far down the rabbit hole.

Please get help.

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I ask again...how do you explain the excess death stats?...


Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 1:11 PM
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and, come on, do you seriously not believe any virus has been isolated?

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 12:16 PM
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My boss's father caught it a month ago and has a week or so to live, he had both vaccinations. His sister just died from it, she was 60. He survived the virus, but the damage done to his renal system gives a week or so. I saw the video of him today, he decided to die at home with is family. He is suffering badly, it was hard to watch.


some of you are a bunch of fugging assowls.

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Re: Today I learned that if you're 65 or older, the odds that

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 1:18 PM
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You're not very good with odds are ya?

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Him still being alive is proof

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 1:25 PM
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he's good with odds

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Posted: Apr 23, 2021, 2:04 PM
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Man you've brightened my day! Stupid me had looked at the actuarial tables to plan retirement. The good news is I'm going to live to be really old. The bad news based on your odds of only having a 4% chance of dying in any given year after age 65 is I'm not gonna have anything to leave my kids.

Seriously where do you come up with this garbage. Actually for men ages 75-84, the annual death risk is 1/15. For men 85 and older, the annual death risk is 1/6. For men aged 65-74, the annual death rate risk is just a paltry 1/42--2.4%--so you are actually being a little negative for the younger seniors.


I would suggest you go get some discarded PPE and taste and inhale from it deeply to prove that COVID is just a fabricated hoax with conspirators across the world. It's awesome how Iran, Russia, China and the US have all gotten together to perpetuate such an elaborate hoax. It's amazing how health care workers, funeral home directors have all gotten on board to keep this hoax rolling along.

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