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Rival Killer [2711]
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Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 7:00 AM
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My hopes are still high because we have DW #4 under center. Id give anything to have a repeat of this season. And go win it all. But the defense takes a big hit especially in the secondary. I could see us having to outscore opponents. We may have to score 50 to win some games. My realistic expectations is to go 12 and 0 however it wouldn't surprise me if we lose one and go 11-1 just simply because of the hit on defense.
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Varsity [225]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 7:01 AM
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Venables did it once I'm sure he can do it again, it may not be a top 10 defense but I'm positive it will be enough to get the job done.
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Game Day Hero [4159]
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The run defense and pass rush will be strong regardless
Jan 14, 2016, 7:05 AM
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That's 75% of the battle right there. Look at Michigan State's defense. They lost only once in the regular season and their secondary was one of the worst in the nation.
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Heisman Winner [83112]
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Re: The run defense and pass rush will be strong regardless-
Jan 14, 2016, 7:30 AM
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dbs will be fine as long as they dont have to cover # 88. I think all the guys who wouldnt cover him are leaving anyway. 
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 7:35 AM
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we should be good to go, get past FSU on the road and we are looking at another ACC title game, probably against a much improved Miami Team. I am not so worried about this defense, we have numbers, we just need to coach up the secondary. Our Dline will probably be as good or likely better by the second half of the season. Our back-ups got a lot of reps this year and I just don't see many wasted scholarships on this roster. I also believe we also have the green light to take a Juco or two, I would not be surprised to see this.
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Orange Blooded [3508]
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This^^^^^***
Jan 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
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Game Changer [2070]
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BV and Reed will have them ready to go! Don't you worry
Jan 14, 2016, 7:49 AM
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guy.
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Ring of Honor [21730]
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Realistic expectations for next football season 11-1
Jan 14, 2016, 7:59 AM
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11-1 or 12-0 regular season is my expectation. FSU will be a challenge and with an away game at Auburn to open the year .... you never know.
Auburn is like a box of chocolates ......
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season 11-1
Jan 14, 2016, 9:12 AM
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Auburn will be a great test. They have as much talent as any team in the nation. Should be a good game and a good test for our D. I say we roll our O cannot be stopped.
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CU Guru [1239]
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With DW4, improved o-line, Williams, Gallman, Leggett and...
Jan 14, 2016, 8:26 AM
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tons of other offensive weapons, our O will pick any defense apart. Our d-line will be very solid. If we could do it in the past year, I don't see why we can't do it again this year. I have confidence in Coach Venables.
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CU Guru [1127]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 8:37 AM
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I don't think there is anyone on the schedule beside FSU that has the firepower to stop us unless we have a monumental meltdown and lose a game we have no business losing. We will be double digit favorites in every game except FSU.
They bring back everyone on offense with the caveat that their current starting QB will miss spring practice after getting surgery on a broken ankle. Maguire will get pushed by former 4 stars Cosentino, Francois, and newcomer Henry. If they win the job you will have an unproven, untested QB that is being broken in. If Maguire maintains his spot, sometime in summer will be the first time he is able to realistically work again. Similar to Deshaun but Deshaun is a different player than Maguire.
In other words, our game against FSU will likely be a high scoring affair with both sides having dominant fronts and retooling behind that. However, if anyone thinks that FSU has the firepower to beat Clemson without Clemson making a lot of mistakes, I'll hear you now. I don't think they do and if we can improve to the 70's in rank for special teams we will be fine.
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Recruit [98]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 8:51 AM
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15-0
Best is standard
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All-TigerNet [14488]
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15-0
Jan 14, 2016, 8:52 AM
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If not, 14-1
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Oculus Spirit [40940]
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Re: 15-0
Jan 14, 2016, 9:25 AM
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@ Auburn to open and the @ FSU are the two that we face top notch talent in . The rest of them we seem likely to win on paper . Lot of time in between now and December in Charlotte. Let's GO !
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CU Guru [1239]
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To be honest...
Jan 14, 2016, 10:20 AM
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I'm not really concerned about Auburn. FSU does make me concerned. Playing that entire offense in their home field? That won't be easy.
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Asst Coach [836]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:07 AM
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Special teams needs to improve in every way.... We need a kicker who can kick it in the endzone... We need to coach up the guys at Safety and Corner... Talent is there... D. Line, D. Ends, and Linebacker will be very good... Our Offense will be great...
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Game Changer [1732]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:14 AM
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2 words. Tam pa
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Clemson Icon [27854]
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+1...***
Jan 14, 2016, 9:38 AM
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CU Medallion [18221]
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When Vegas sets the odds at 6/1 for a Clemson natty,
Jan 14, 2016, 9:18 AM
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you can realistically expect a return to the playoffs.
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All-Time Great [90071]
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It will be tough @FSU, they could have beaten us this year.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:25 AM
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@Auburn could be tough as well. BC even will play us tough up there. GT will be on the road.
12-0 is certainly possible though, but you'd think realistically, we lose at least one or two.
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: It will be tough @FSU, they could have beaten us this year.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:27 AM
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Who realistically has a chance to beat us?? FSU has talent but we have their number.
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All-Time Great [90071]
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FSU has a realistic shot. They had a realistic shot this
Jan 14, 2016, 9:55 AM
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year and we were at home.
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Orange Phenom [14959]
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It depends on what you consider realistic. Are we talking
Jan 14, 2016, 10:31 AM
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App St winning at Michigan a decade ago when they were like 4 TD dogs? Was that realistic? The Citadel winning at South Carolina this year? Michigan St winning at Ohio State with a backup QB?
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: It depends on what you consider realistic. Are we talking
Jan 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
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DW4 changes everything and you guys seem to forget that.
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Orange Phenom [14959]
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Expecting 12-0/13-0 isn't really realistic. Not because the
Jan 14, 2016, 9:26 AM
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team won't be extremely good, but just because going undefeated, even with an extremely good team, is just not all that likely. Even if we field another national championship caliber team like we had this year, even if we are favored in every game, our odds of winning every one will be fairly small.
Just for example, we are an early 7pt favorite at Auburn. That probably equates to something like a 70% chance to win the game. Lets be generous though and say we are 75% to win that one. Then assume we are a small favorite at FSU and something like 55%-60% to win that game. Our chances of winning both are around 40%. That's not even taking into account the other 10 or 11 games...
11-1 is much more realistic. Hopefully the 1 loss isn't to FSU, and hopefully a 12-1 ACC champ can get back in to the CFP.
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: Expecting 12-0/13-0 isn't really realistic. Not because the
Jan 14, 2016, 9:28 AM
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Your math is dumb. We have a one game season each week so do not combine the chances of winning both games that are a month apart.
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Re: Expecting 12-0/13-0 isn't really realistic. Not because the
Jan 14, 2016, 9:32 AM
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The OP asked to talk about realistic expectations , I think he did that exactly.
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: Expecting 12-0/13-0 isn't really realistic. Not because the
Jan 14, 2016, 10:28 AM
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If you have even watched DW4 play undefeated is the only expectation.
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Orange Phenom [14959]
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CU Guru [1239]
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Let me tell you this.
Jan 14, 2016, 10:26 AM
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I am a college professor in a school of engineering and I can tell you that his math isn't dumb. His explanation is in fact simple and straightforward. If you want me to explain it in term of a more sophisticated model, feel free to ask me.
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: Let me tell you this.
Jan 14, 2016, 10:30 AM
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A percent chance of a team winning a football game is dumb. we had less than 50% chance to beat OU and we beat that a$$ and would 10 more times in a row. Don't be an idiot and try to be above everybody. This is football son.
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Orange Phenom [14959]
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I get it. You think math has no place in sports, but there
Jan 14, 2016, 10:39 AM
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are a lot of very wealthy and very intelligent guys (way smarter than myself) that would disagree with you.
We wouldn't beat 10 of out 10 times. I came away from that game definitely feeling like we were the better team, but that still doesn't mean we would win more than like 7 out of 10.
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Orange Phenom [14959]
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OK, let me ask you something different. NFL kicker, chip
Jan 14, 2016, 10:45 AM
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shot 27 yard fg. This is basically an automatic kick for an NFL kicker. Any realistic chance that he misses or should the 3 points just be put on the board without bothering?
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: OK, let me ask you something different. NFL kicker, chip
Jan 14, 2016, 10:49 AM
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I'm not sayin upsets don't happen. I know we could lose but realistically with DW at QB do you guys really think we lose a game next year. I don't. Y'all can have a negative attitude all day long if you want but that's stupid to think we will lose. Math has plenty of place in sports but sayin who will win a game is opinion. If we went by percent chances we would have been 10-2 at best this year. We had DW that makes a difference and I'm not going to argue with his greatness.
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Re: OK, let me ask you something different. NFL kicker, chip
Jan 14, 2016, 10:50 AM
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Have**
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Re: Let me tell you this.
Jan 14, 2016, 10:33 AM
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You would have bet on OU I assume.
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Recruit [97]
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Re: Expecting 12-0/13-0 isn't really realistic. Not because the
Jan 14, 2016, 9:38 AM
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FSU will be good but if you look at the depth chart you will see a lot of Freshmen. While they recruited great, they will have depth issues early in the season.
Auburn is losing some great Defensive players. They do not scare me at all.
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Orange Phenom [14959]
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Yes, I'm not "scared" of Auburn either, but that doesn't
Jan 14, 2016, 10:24 AM
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mean we have better than a 75% chance to beat them. 3-1 favorite is already quite large on the road against a team with plenty of talented players.
Yes Clemson is favored, yes Clemson is likely to win the game, but that does not guarantee that we WILL win the game. The Warriors were way better than the Cavs last year, but Cleveland still managed to win 2 out of 6 games despite the Warriors being the better team and favored in every one of those 6 games. Baseball and basketball play 7 game series because the best team doesn't always win in 1 a game showdown or even a 3 game series. We could be quite a bit better than Auburn next year and still lose that game. It may not be likely, but it is possible, and if we are going to have a discussion about "realistic" expectations, then we should actually try to be realistic about it and account for these possibilities.
I think many people look at these games as absolutes. Either we are going to win (100%) or we are going to lose (0%). The truth is very much in between.
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National Champion [7361]
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Re: Yes, I'm not "scared" of Auburn either, but that doesn't
Jan 14, 2016, 10:31 AM
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With Deshaun I'm going 100% y'all can be coots and bet against him all you want but I know what the young man can and will do.
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Orange Blooded [3508]
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12-1 ACC champ will NOT get the benefit of the "eye test"
Jan 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
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like the Big 12,10, and SEC do. Just watch. Different metrics that are made up out of thin air will apply if we are 12-1. We and other ACC teams are held to a different standard than the other conferences I'm afraid.
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110%er [3972]
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BS...we'd have been in this year -
Jan 14, 2016, 10:55 AM
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Even if we lost to Lvl or NCSU...
FSU would have been in had they beat us and beat UNC (even w/ the GT loss).
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110%er [3629]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:27 AM
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We will be just fine we will have 4/5* players all most at every position and they have to play against the top rated offense next for the spring, summer and fall. Over all getting better each year. We rotate players with two deep. Two deep wise very talented. With 15 games and 80+ plays a game. No drop off with the 1-b. Should be a lot of "or " at every position.
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Recruit [97]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:27 AM
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I see us back in the playoffs, even "if" the Defense is not a top 10 statistically...We will just out score everyone with the #1 QB #1 offensive line. Best WR unit and the new Thunder and lightning out of the back.
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Orange Blooded [2332]
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Re: Realistic expectations for next football season.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:45 AM
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10-2 at worst, 11-1 likely due to personnel losses, but undefeated perhaps. Despite the offensive firepower I feel the secondary and special teams need considerable work. Don't overlook Louisville or Ga.Tech along with FSU or Allbarn as potential losses. There are to many unknowns at this point.
Go Tigers!
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Anywhere from 1 loss o undefeated.**
Jan 14, 2016, 9:48 AM
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Ultimate Tiger [35197]
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I'll get to keep my same seats.***
Jan 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
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Paw Master [17393]
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15-0 is a reasonable expectation. What's not reasonable is
Jan 14, 2016, 11:09 AM
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going into an emotional tailspin if we lose a game or two. It's college sports.
But just like this year...there's no one on the schedule we can't beat. So I choose to expect us to beat them. Welcome to the new normal.
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